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IlluminatiPirate
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BobbyTrivia
- M (Guest) Midnightmadness
- A (Guest) aesthu
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IlluminatiPirate:More people in the vaporwave community should know about agora road
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(Guest) Midnightmadness:Actually, my post was basically to get people's views on vaporwave and whether they consider themselves part of a community.
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IlluminatiPirate:Yea we have those types of posts on our vaporwave general section
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BobbyTrivia:i've taken more than one survey about vapor on here lol
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BobbyTrivia:tbh i just feel the need to scream from the mountaintops, "your music does not have to be anti-consumerism to be considered vaporwave"
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(Guest) Midnightmadness:So I am walking a well treaded path I guess XD
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(Guest) Midnightmadness:
So considering that, do you think there a parameters for vaporwave? It is just remixing pop culture from the 80s and 90s or an outlook to making art?BobbyTrivia said: -
IlluminatiPirate:I view it more of the nostalgia aspect
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IlluminatiPirate:Like Y2K stuff is emerging now and I can see new vaporwave artists sampling early 2000's music too
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(Guest) aesthu:yeah i could see that. I was drawn to vaporwave originally for the nostalgia, and I enjoy the political commentary aspect but I don't think it's required
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(Guest) aesthu:or it can have other political messages, but I think because of the source material it will often find itself critiquing or commenting on consumerism
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BobbyTrivia:i don't think it's really possible to stick vaporwave in a box now
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BobbyTrivia:tbh it's like, eccojams and floral shoppe that are like, "yeah that's the 'pure' vaporwave" for me, and anything past that ends up breaking so many of those "vapor rules" that you might as well just have vapor be whatever the hell you want
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BobbyTrivia:this gets said a lot but like, what the hell is I'll Try Living Like This, really? and even HKE's discography; start from the beginning and compare it to other "vaporwave" -- it's hard to say it's the same genre if you define vaporwave so narrowly. i think the definition has to be super broad
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BobbyTrivia:blank banshee gets brought up a lot. if that's vaporwave, and 2814 is vaporwave, and eccojams is vaporwave....that's a really broad definition
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BobbyTrivia:@aesthu that's what i mean, really. i say this a lot but, what draws a whole slew of people to vapor is nostalgia for their consumerism of the past. they aren't critiquing it, they aren't wishing it never happened, they aren't upset about it; they're nostalgic for it. they miss it.
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(Guest) Midnightmadness:Hmm, I see, and I know I have heard people dislike that categorizing quality too. Do you think changes in technology make outdated mediums basically fair means for vaporwave? For instance, could iPhone 4-based vaporwave make sense or is that still too soon.
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(Guest) Midnightmadness:Or I guess Far Side Virtual is kind of like what I said
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BobbyTrivia:that's gunna change from person to person. there's an argument thread on here with a few people legitimately arguing that "if there's anime in it, it's not vaporwave." i think they're wrong, but they would probably say something "as new" as the iphone 4 doesn't qualify as vapor
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BobbyTrivia:https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/fuck-aesthetic.3121/ give the thread a read if you'd like. you may get something out of it
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BobbyTrivia:you'll have to translate vaporwavemaster1's responses just fyi
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BobbyTrivia:if you see my post comparing vaporwave to industrial, i think that summarizes my thoughts about how to define vaporwave
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IlluminatiPirate:Lol and there is some shit throwing in that thread too
