Neonriser
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There's a saying: "You'll miss 100% of the shots you don't take."Unfortunately i have to agree that it's neigh impossible to fix it.
But just because its unlikely to be succeed doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
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There's a saying: "You'll miss 100% of the shots you don't take."Unfortunately i have to agree that it's neigh impossible to fix it.
But just because its unlikely to be succeed doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
Well, being here is at least a good start. There would have to be a complete reversal in the mindset of the average internet user and the tech companies (Not only social media, but hardware and software companies as well) in order to fix it.Unfortunately i have to agree that it's neigh impossible to fix it.
But just because its unlikely to succeed doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
I really like the positive counterpoint. As an addendum, my prediction is that the clearnet will become increasingly normiefied to the point where a loss of users will become inevitable.I don't really view the Internet as a single contained space anymore. It hasn't changed much protocol-wise, and what has changed has been mostly positive.
What happened was it's popularization, the amount of users increased and with that came the corporations. They set up a bunch of websites that centralized everything for the new waves of users that flooded the Web. But we are still here, we aren't really being forced to join those websites because the Internet still mostly works the way it used to, we can still create our own corners for likeminded people. Even when we do need to use the corporate websites, most of the times we can do our little hacks to make them bearable.
Maybe one day our corners will expand to swallow the rest of the Internet. Until then, we can keep chillin.
Just a positive counterview here.
Eventually some do-gooder will come in and write software to simplify it for the masses and ruin the entire experience. If you make it source code only, they may distribute ready to use binaries.Higher barriers to entry. The large corporations & social networks can only survive as long as they have a raw material of normie souls to feed on. Create platforms/networks which are hard to use, technical challenges, invite-only, not talked about... private clubs, like how rich people IRL organize their social networks. Make it hard for the kind of people who only use FAANG websites to even know the existence of our networks, much less enter them.
The darkweb, as in Tor, is a pretty good barrier of entry since people are usually scared of "being hacked" or will just stop using it because it's slow, so things like anonymous imageboards can stay anonymous and open while still keeping out the masses and without resorting to random technical barriers or password protection.I really like the positive counterpoint. As an addendum, my prediction is that the clearnet will become increasingly normiefied to the point where a loss of users will become inevitable.
Where they will go?
Outside -> Grass, Green, Fresh air
Darkweb -> A new frontier for the 4chan degen.
This is the agora road I am on, DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organization), NFTs and Ethereum name service. I am currently looking into leaving my DNS for my ENS which is my Ethereum Name, vaporwavevista.eth instead of hosting on a central server I am researching about IPFS (InterPlanetary File System) for peer to peer node hosting and file storage. Lots of stuff to look into/research and start building in the decentralization space, I truly believe Web 3.0 is what comes next, just thought I would drop these images to paint a better picture for you about the idea you are yearning for. <3I think the most important and hardest to accomplish step would be to decentralize the internet. If we could split up sites like Twitter, Facebook, >reddit, etc. into smaller communities I think we would see a lot more meaningful interactions. I like posting on this site because there's a relatively small amount of people and I like getting to know you all.
Another issue, in my opinion, is that people seem to make content with the goal of making money rather than just doing it for fun. I really miss the internet from when I was younger and everyone seemed to be creating and sharing things just because they wanted to.
I guess I don't really have any ideas to accomplish this stuff, it's hard to compete with these giant corporations that have algorithms designed to keep you glued to their sites.
Tor is good on paper but nowadays there are too many mentally ill people that want fame on small forums/ibs. Most IB's on tor are infested with extremely stupid people that are terminally online and post solely to ruin discussions. There is also the issue of pedos on tor, not only do they attract feds, they are also retarded and terminally online.The darkweb, as in Tor, is a pretty good barrier of entry since people are usually scared of "being hacked" or will just stop using it because it's slow, so things like anonymous imageboards can stay anonymous and open while still keeping out the masses and without resorting to random technical barriers or password protection.
Good luck trying to moderate anything there, though.
feels like most internet forums, i know of a smallish forum where some insane dude has kept on showing up for 10 years under various alts to harass the forumMost IB's on tor are infested with extremely stupid people that are terminally online and post solely to ruin discussions.
defi and dapps are the way to go. web 3.0 is happening. it's just a matter of which way it'll goOkay everyone, I have heard your complaints about everything that's wrong with the Internet. Now, let's hear your ideas on how to improve the internet.
To me, decentralized social media (i.e. Mastodon) and having the power to make our own websites on Neocities, leprd.space, and other free webhosting services are a start.
i wish it weren't the case but i think i'm a "brown" here. or maybe a green, but i haven't told anyone about it. Hopefully i'm not contributing to agora road's downfall.
Is there really any way to make a difference? The internet is just a part of normie life now, you can build small independent communities that are reclusive and exclusive but that won't have any impact on the overall culture. Once something goes mainstream it's basically ogre. For example, the profit incentive people are flagging in this thread, while certainly a contributory cause, it cannot be erased or reverted back.
Not far off the trail actuallyThis is an off the cuff idea so bear with me; what if there were more apps that forced or encouraged you to engage with the real world? a la Pokemon Go. I didn't even play Pokemon Go and people would come up and ask if I was the one in their gym, etc. etc.. Encouraged interaction with real, physical life.
I agree to an extent, but there's definitely a nostalgic appeal to older memes that shouldn't be considered just "recycling".Too many people are clout chasers and trend followers, almost nobody is a trend setter. More trends need to happen and also people need to stop recycling memes so much.
Alright NeoTokyo, but who would be able to hinder the users from interacting with the current form of internet? How that's done? I mean, we are not in an administrative position. Also, shouldn't the new version be user-oriented? And if so, shouldn't they also engage in the process of building it up from scratch? And if they engage, that also means they would have to experiment with it while the building process. Experimentation is done by interacting with the New Version while it is evolving, as the two process is co-dependent.We can start by removing 90% of internet users
After that, remove most websites
Basically, we'd have to rebuild everything from scratch
"The internet is dead, and we're the ghosts haunting the graveyard. God that's depressing" -Mister Metokur
I'm intrigued. Could you help me with the basics though? I've never heard of Gemini before.Lets team up and make a website on Gemini space. With our own based client and server in glorious GPL2.