Imnotpervertedjustitalian
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You rewriting history doesnt help either.
You can't just say that and not provide the examples and the correct version of it, wtf?
Real easy to just say it and not back it up.
I don't know why you keep bringing up e-celebs and fame too when I was just suggesting using someone else's site as a venue for your interests/expression because it saves time, money and effort.
You most certainly did not.
If you want to reach many people for whatever reason (show them you art, propagate your politics, ask for help, seek like minded people in a large group and many more) a personal website can't beat the big sites and it's not even a matter of convenience since it isn't a matter of effort to reach that many people online with your own site. Can't just amass the same amount of regular visitors as rëddit with just diligence.
The positive feedback wasn't part of my argument. You can make weird, niche art or have fringe political takes but going on a big site means that you get a huge pool of potential interaction to build an audience to begin with. Even if just 1 out of 1000 stays that's better chances than what you'd get by self hosting.
How would you even gauge the quality of a view? Someone who silently views something is usually only expressed by an integer increasing. If that's on >reddit or on your website. Sounds like you want just a circle jerk of hipsters that huff their own farts for fun.
You said that you want to reach a bigger audience, and I said that If you post x on something like reeddit you will reach a bigger audience, but it would be a lower quality audience than the ones that would organically reach it in your website. Then you posted an image where everybody has the same thought bubble despite arguing that people aren't alike.
Please do not try to rewrite history.
In your boomer train scenario the self hosted forum has a substantially bigger audience than a facebook group(which tends to be the more personal form of social media), reeddit has an even bigger model train community, but the difference between the 2 is that reeddit is people just showing off their toys(like social media) and begginers asking questions.
It has no form of actual discussion on the hobby and the culture surrounding it, which its fine for what it is, just that what it its its lower quality than the forum.
You don't seem to understand that being e-famous and hosting your own website are 2 different things and are not mutually exclusive.
I am still wanting for you to define right people, Show me a subculture that developed in a corporate non hosted site, explain to me how before big social media people found others personal website and how big websites became know back in the day and why people who are part of an specific subculture would not prefer to have a space that its not tailored to their own specific cultural world view, instead of posting on reeddit for example.
And you don't seem to understand that Its ok for you to want to reach an bigger audience by watering down your product, you do not have to appeal to a specific group of people within a sub culture if you just want to reach an bigger audience, the only reason why would would want to do that its to cultivate and expand said culture that you and your art/product its a part of.
If you don't want to have that effort that is fine, nobody its forcing you.
If you want to reach the world, it would be pretty hard if all you did was have a model train website, if you really want to be e-famous, just make(or pay someone to) make crazy rollercoaster style train city things and post 10 second videos on reeddit, youtube shorts and what not, I guarantee you will get a lot of views. Are all those views quality views? No, it would be mostly children, junkies, people that do not care about model trains in the slightest, but you will reach the bigger audience you wanted.
Its watered down enough to reach those people. Its everything that makes model trains cool but without having to participate in the culture that comes behind it.
You would love this tv show named big bang theory, now that, that show had a lots of views.
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