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  • SophiaHaven:
    BarnSwallow said:
    thinking straight is a luxury only neets and youth can afford
    "One of these days, thought Winston with sudden deep conviction, Syme will be vaporized. He is too intelligent. He sees too clearly and speaks too plainly. The Party does not like such people. One day he will disappear. It is written in his face."
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  • StarBrite16:
    if you think straight for too long, you'll be a depressed and anxious mess
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  • SophiaHaven:
    Still a Youth said:
    Yoy can but ill probably be scared off and run away from technology to smoke a cigerette and not come back to this website for a few days
    You're going to smoke a single cigarette for a few days?
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  • Still a Youth:
    Yes i will make it smolder
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  • Member:
    StarBrite16 said:
    if you think straight for too long, you'll be a depressed and anxious mess
    Being ignorant isn't blissful though
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  • Member:
    You're like a wounded deer who doesn't know why it's feeling pain
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  • Still a Youth:
    Yes i am
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  • SophiaHaven:
    Still a Youth said:
    Yes i will make it smolder
    Well, if you do, take some reading material with you, at least. I know it's a little long at 17,000 words, but I think it'll be worth an hour of your time and might stimulate your imagination. There's some original thought and analysis in it, as well some surveys from Huxley, Popper, de Tocqueville, and Kaczynski.
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  • SophiaHaven:
    Member said:
    You're like a wounded deer who doesn't know why it's feeling pain
    This is such an incredibly apt description.
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  • Still a Youth:
    I need to write about huxley ive been thinking about that for days
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  • StarBrite16:
    sad but true
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  • Member:
    SophiaHaven said:
    Well, if you do, take some reading material with you, at least. I know it's a little long at 17,000 words, but I think it'll be worth an hour of your time and might stimulate your imagination. There's some original thought and analysis in it, as well some surveys from Huxley, Popper, de Tocqueville, and Kaczynski.
    Can you send me this work too?
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  • SophiaHaven:
    I'll do my agoranons one better. I'll send it to the both of you in a common chat.
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  • Still a Youth:
    Will take
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  • Still a Youth:
    Am pdf data hoarder
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  • SophiaHaven:
    PDF? I'm sending it in Agoraformat. What am I, Adobe?
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  • Still a Youth:
    What does that meeeeen
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  • StarBrite16:
    oh shit this site has it's own doc format
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  • SophiaHaven:
    Alack, if only. Maybe one day. I meant whatever HTML and CSS styling it's using to do the functionality it has
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  • SophiaHaven:
    Id est, I'm sending it as DM text.
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  • SophiaHaven:
    Okay sending now
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  • Still a Youth:
    You might like adornos dialectic of the enlightenment, or if you wanna go full philo-bot Quines indeterminacy of translation arguments
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  • SophiaHaven:
    Still a Youth said:
    You might like adornos dialectic of the enlightenment, or if you wanna go full philo-bot Quines indeterminacy of translation arguments
    An extremely astute and appreciated recommendation. Indeed, I've been meaning to delve into that for a while. I think it would speak a lot on the issue of closed societies that are nonetheless very abstract (in the Popperian sense of the term, meaning those societies where freedom of thought and discourse are not allowed, and where the laws are against the principles that allow men and woman to live as they please, with only civic or economic engagement with the rest of their peers). Within this category I would include the 20th century authoritarian states of the fascists and communists, as well as maybe some 19th century European polities.
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  • SophiaHaven:
    I deliberately avoided speaking on these cases in the DM's I sent the both of you. For one thing, it's long enough as-is and a full discussion of the problem would quite literally be novel-length. For another, I believe that the horror and objective inhumanity of modern rational societies where not even the pretext of liberty or open thought is given its due -- such as the totalitarian societies of North Korea, Turkmenistan, the PRC, and increasingly even places like the Russian Federation -- is plain and obvious for all us Westerners and children of the internet to perceive and thus should not merit much immediate discussion.
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      SophiaHaven: I deliberately avoided speaking on these cases in the DM's I sent the both of you. For one... +1