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  • IlluminatiPirate:
    Like Y2K stuff is emerging now and I can see new vaporwave artists sampling early 2000's music too
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  • (Guest) aesthu:
    yeah i could see that. I was drawn to vaporwave originally for the nostalgia, and I enjoy the political commentary aspect but I don't think it's required
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  • (Guest) aesthu:
    or it can have other political messages, but I think because of the source material it will often find itself critiquing or commenting on consumerism
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    i don't think it's really possible to stick vaporwave in a box now
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    tbh it's like, eccojams and floral shoppe that are like, "yeah that's the 'pure' vaporwave" for me, and anything past that ends up breaking so many of those "vapor rules" that you might as well just have vapor be whatever the hell you want
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    this gets said a lot but like, what the hell is I'll Try Living Like This, really? and even HKE's discography; start from the beginning and compare it to other "vaporwave" -- it's hard to say it's the same genre if you define vaporwave so narrowly. i think the definition has to be super broad
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    blank banshee gets brought up a lot. if that's vaporwave, and 2814 is vaporwave, and eccojams is vaporwave....that's a really broad definition
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    @aesthu that's what i mean, really. i say this a lot but, what draws a whole slew of people to vapor is nostalgia for their consumerism of the past. they aren't critiquing it, they aren't wishing it never happened, they aren't upset about it; they're nostalgic for it. they miss it.
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  • (Guest) Midnightmadness:
    Hmm, I see, and I know I have heard people dislike that categorizing quality too. Do you think changes in technology make outdated mediums basically fair means for vaporwave? For instance, could iPhone 4-based vaporwave make sense or is that still too soon.
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  • (Guest) Midnightmadness:
    Or I guess Far Side Virtual is kind of like what I said
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    that's gunna change from person to person. there's an argument thread on here with a few people legitimately arguing that "if there's anime in it, it's not vaporwave." i think they're wrong, but they would probably say something "as new" as the iphone 4 doesn't qualify as vapor
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/fuck-aesthetic.3121/ give the thread a read if you'd like. you may get something out of it
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    you'll have to translate vaporwavemaster1's responses just fyi
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    if you see my post comparing vaporwave to industrial, i think that summarizes my thoughts about how to define vaporwave
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  • IlluminatiPirate:
    Lol and there is some shit throwing in that thread too :kekCaught:
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  • (Guest) aesthu:
    good thread on the topic
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  • (Guest) Midnightmadness:
    @BobbyTrivia Hm, yeah that makes sense. There's something beautiful I think about capturing that nostalgia for consumerism and then also those criticizing it within vaporwave. It's capturing this full spectrum of reflections on the rapid changes in society today I think.
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  • (Guest) Midnightmadness:
    Late response to the original post but still
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    yeah i mean
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  • IlluminatiPirate:
    I liked the anonymity with it, and the piracy angle it had
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    with industrial, Ministry is very openly on one side of the political spectrum, and then you have bands like Funker Vogt that create "openly fascist" industrial. it's hard to say, are the members actually fascist? i think a better question is, does it matter? in any case, both sound totally different from eachother, and showcase a polar-opposite side of the political spectrum, but they're still both "real industrial." i suppose i view vaporwave in the same light
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  • (Guest) aesthu:
    yeah and i would add that i think the process of creating art really doesn't work if you impose a specific political viewpoint to a medium. Like folk music is often connected with far left anti-war etc etc, but it's a genre where you can express all kinds of things from complex political commentary to some pretty basic human emotions. I think that's important, to have that freedom
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  • BobbyTrivia:
    for sure
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  • (Guest) aesthu:
    getting late over here in the UK, great to meet y'all, i'll be back soon for sure :)
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    (Guest) aesthu: getting late over here in the UK, great to meet y'all, i'll be back soon for sure :)