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I agree with thisThose 20 years seem more wasted than ever tbh.
*Urge to kill......RISING*>The Taliban now have furries in their ranks.
but, you just said no one uses nukes because it's suicide...so how can they be a deterrent?There's a reason why nobody uses nukes. Because its literally suicide, if you launch a nuke you will not only be killing civilians, but the radiation will effect neighboring countries and the whole planet. Thus will effect us. We only have nukes for a deterrent for other countries.
same people behind it too.You know, I never really took to heart just how cyclical history was, until now. Everyone always says that history repeats itself, over and over, and that's like, a midwit-tier take, but it never really sunk in for me just how literally it repeats itself until now.
You see the same exact style of photos coming out of this, as you did with Saigon. It's a helluva thing.
I wonder if the United States will go the same way that the Soviet Union did after pulling out...
No two historical events are the same, history rhymes more than it repeats. It's foolish to assume what we are seeing happen in Afghan is like what we saw with Saigon when its a still developing story that will change and warp with time.You know, I never really took to heart just how cyclical history was, until now. Everyone always says that history repeats itself, over and over, and that's like, a midwit-tier take, but it never really sunk in for me just how literally it repeats itself until now.
You see the same exact style of photos coming out of this, as you did with Saigon. It's a helluva thing.
Are you saying that the fall of the Soviet Union started or happened when they pulled out of afghan in 1989? If so, you seem to be infected with the myth that Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires, they're not. Let me explain;I wonder if the United States will go the same way that the Soviet Union did after pulling out...
NO WAY IS THAT REAL??!-hey brother, uhhh are you sure allah sees this fit?
-well of course posting the conquest of our provinces on this furry westerner webpage is the best way, how else could it be?
yes, I saved this picture I also found on 4chan, they have the best stuff there
No two historical events are the same, history rhymes more than it repeats. It's foolish to assume what we are seeing happen in Afghan is like what we saw with Saigon when its a still developing story that will change and warp with time.
The fall of Saigon took place two years after US forces were withdrawn from Vietnam. America's evacuation from Kabul, meanwhile, is happening while the US was already preparing to leave Afghanistan. So, no, these situations are not unfolding in the exact same way.We have the exact same situations unfolding, in the exact same kind of way- as a matter of fact, after a nearly exact same kind of war, as well. Technology changes, but actions don't seem to.
In contrast to Vietnam, where the US envoy Martin stayed until the last moment at the embassy and then got the US fleet off the coast to help rescue Vietnamese, US diplomats in Kabul appear to have left quickly, leaving behind troops and locals they worked with. These situations are similar but different. It's a different mindset than in the 1970s. In the past, the US had refugee policies that embraced people who were fleeing Saigon and also those fleeing from Cuba and some other regimes. There doesn't seem to be a version of the 1975 Indochina Migration and Refugee Assistance Act, which enabled approximately 130,000 refugees from South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia to enter the US. The US has had ample time to aid the Afghans, not only over the last 20 years, but also since the autumn of 2019 when the US knew it was leaving. The Trump administration pushed the deal that would enable the US to leave, drawing down troops in 2020 and then leaving in 2021.All of these same exact circumstances happened during our exit from Vietnam.
While at face value, these situations do seem exactly alike, like I said before, there's more to it then meets the eye. And yeah, I could've worded it better.While it's true that history rhymes more than directly repeats, I was observing the striking resemblance between this and Saigon- and, to be honest, calling it foolish to draw that comparison is a bad look.
No procedure was put in place to process large-scale Afghan requests for asylum or refugee status. Despite the US having much better technology these days to deal with such requests, almost nothing was done, and the chaos at Kabul's airport is the result. Refugee policies 100 years ago appear to have been better coordinated than what has unfolded these days in Kabul.Technology changes, but actions don't seem to.
The US at that time was taking in refugees. But today in Washington, there is no interest in refugees, and US officials in Kabul fled quickly without staying to the end to manage the evacuation and help the locals to flee.Also, the story, while still developing, has already told all there is to tell, with comparison to Saigon. Taliban has swept the nation and taken over. That is a fact. The US is now evacuating people from the rooftop of the embassy. That is also a fact. The US left the nation, expecting it to hold its own at least for a little bit, and it didn't. That is also a fact.
Agreed. I guess I'm not so much saying that they were weak willed, more that perhaps the will of the people was not behind the democratic afghan government and perhaps more partial to islamic rule. If this was the case then no amount of money or effort would result in victory.I agree that twenty years and a trillion dollars spent ideally could have produced a better result.
I'm not sure how much blame can be placed on the Afghan's lack of will to fight - some estimates have the Afghan security forces have taking over 65,000 casualties. With attrition like that, pure selection effects take place.
We also need to remember that until the "peace treaty" where Trump agreed to withdraw last year, the Taliban were making gains despite continued US support. The quiet of the months before the withdrawal always was an illusion.
They aren't peopleCan't believe that jet taking off through a crowd of civilians. So deperate and afraid to just plough through people on the runway to escape back to the states.
The video leaks have stopped so I guess the NSA has shut it all down.
They ARE the satanic globalist influenceFor all I care, the Taliban are a lot more willing to tackle the issue of their own government's corruption and debauched perversions than the US soldiers sent there to ostensibly remove the threat of fundamentalist Islamic extremists, but then again, even they have their own connection to a long running trail of globalist influence.
That's just pants on head retardedThey aren't people
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