Agoracraft - Minecraft Beta 1.7.3 Server, Better than Adventure

[ビンス]

I want to stick with BTA/Beta honestly.

 

[RisingThumb]

I kinda wonder if Reminiscence could be a good compromise for something like this, since it attempts to make something like BTA in a modern version of Minecraft rather that mod that old version directly. I don't really have a personal preference between the two; I just figured I'd mention it since it's a cool project.

It looks cool, and personally? I think there's a good point to it. There's a bunch of technical improvements to modern minecraft that make it a bit less insufferable to play. Modern minecraft's recipe book is better than BTA, and the world gen doesn't have awful scars between versions whenever worldgen was slightly changed. Plus if it has 1.5 redstone stuff, hoppers, droppers and comparators that's a plus. If it has 1.9+ combat that's a negative imo since the combat changes are rubbish.

Also @ビンス since you mentioned BTA v 7.3, what does that update include? Does it have the aether, since I was aware they were teasing a "Paradise" dimension a while back

 

[ビンス]

It looks cool, and personally? I think there's a good point to it. There's a bunch of technical improvements to modern minecraft that make it a bit less insufferable to play. Modern minecraft's recipe book is better than BTA, and the world gen doesn't have awful scars between versions whenever worldgen was slightly changed. Plus if it has 1.5 redstone stuff, hoppers, droppers and comparators that's a plus. If it has 1.9+ combat that's a negative imo since the combat changes are rubbish.

Also @ビンス since you mentioned BTA v 7.3, what does that update include? Does it have the aether, since I was aware they were teasing a "Paradise" dimension a while back

No, they're still working on that.

 

[ビンス]

Sorry to anyone who's super into the idea of modern Minecraft but we will be sticking to BTA. I just want to make this clear now to avoid confusion or people getting too attached to the idea.

 

[ビンス]

It looks cool, and personally? I think there's a good point to it. There's a bunch of technical improvements to modern minecraft that make it a bit less insufferable to play. Modern minecraft's recipe book is better than BTA, and the world gen doesn't have awful scars between versions whenever worldgen was slightly changed. Plus if it has 1.5 redstone stuff, hoppers, droppers and comparators that's a plus. If it has 1.9+ combat that's a negative imo since the combat changes are rubbish.

Also @ビンス since you mentioned BTA v 7.3, what does that update include? Does it have the aether, since I was aware they were teasing a "Paradise" dimension a while back

Here's all the updates so far:

Spoiler: 7.3 Pre-release 1

Better than Adventure! 7.3-pre1

== Main Features ==
- Containers can be picked up and moved around!
- To activate this, hold SHIFT and RIGHT CLICK on a container with an empty hand. Right click again to put it down.
- New command system, thanks to @AndroidDr!
- Rainbows now appear sometimes after it's rained!
- 13 new achievements!
- Texture Packs can now add and replace sounds and music!
- Animals can now be led using a fishing rod!
- Subtitles!
- New game rules: doWeatherCycle and doFireSpread!
- A new credits screen!
- A Skyblock world type!
- Better controller input and much wider compatibility with new controllers!
- A new command, /mobspawning, to control how mobs spawn in the world!
- Stars now have a random colour!
- The achievements screen has been redesigned!
- A festive surprise!

== New Blocks and Items ==
- Pumice, a new Nether block that soaks up lava.
- Steel Door and Steel Trapdoor, Steel Framed Glass, and Steel Fence.
- Igneous Cobbled Netherrack, Mossy Cobbled Netherrack, Netherrack, Netherrack Bricks, Polished Netherrack Slab, Cobbled Netherrack Slab, Netherrack Brick Slab, Cobbled Netherrack Stairs, and Netherrack Brick Stairs.
- Soul Schist, a new stony variant of Soul Sand. Currently unused.
- Bone Shale, a tough bony block that can only be broken from one direction. Currently unused.
- Paintbrush, which allows you to recolor some blocks such as wool and wooden planks once they've been placed.
- Reinforced Piston, a stronger piston variant that can push more blocks, launches mobs and blocks like projectiles, and can crush blocks down into simpler forms (e.g. cobblestone -> gravel -> sand).
- Activator, a new utility block that, when powered, performs a right-click action for you. Likely to be useful for automated farms.
- Redstone Pumpkin, a new spoOoOky variant of the pumpkin crafted using a Redstone Torch which only applies redstone power from a single side.
- Inverted Redstone Lamp, a variant of the Redstone Lamp that is lit by default and extinguished when powered.
- Some blocks now have retro texture variants in the Retro, Indev and Classic world types.

== Changes to Existing Blocks and Items ==
- Perma-Ice now spawns in patches in cold biomes.
- Food now makes a sound when consumed.
- Removed Redstone Torch burnout.
- Renamed Netherrack to Cobbled Netherrack.
- Cobbled Netherrack can now be used as a substitute for stone in recipes.
- Cherries now only stack to 2.
- Crude Steel has a new texture.
- Many, many piston bugs have been fixed.
- Dyed blocks can now be un-dyed using a sponge.
- Minecarts with chests now retain their colour.
- Pistons can now push block entities such as chests, furnaces, and seats.
- Flowers can now be stacked up to four times in one tile.
- Motion Sensors and Dispensers can now be placed facing upwards and downwards.
- Note blocks now have several more instruments to choose from.
- Nether Portal linking can now be controlled using dyes - e.g. a green portal will only link to another green portal.
- The recipe for ropes has changed to no longer require slime balls.
- Rope breaking behaviour is now more reliable and useful.
- Furnaces and Blast Furnaces now have an alternate texture when they have items sitting in their output slot.
- Players can now control whether the reverse side of a flag is mirrored.
- Pigmen now only spawn on natural Nether blocks.
- Players can now place any item on their head.

== Technical Changes ==
- Migrated the game from LWJGL2 to LWJGL3.
- Added support for modern UUIDs.
- Log4J is now used across both the client and server for logging.
- The game now supports more launch arguments, improving compatibility with modern Minecraft.
- Replaced the Biome Finder utility with Seed Viewer.
- Improved fishing synchronization in multiplayer.
- Improved error handling with corrupted NBT data.
- The client jarfile no longer contains server code, and vice-versa.

== Miscellaneous ==
- The player no longer falls off blocks when sneaking over the edge.
- Lightning now prefers to strike higher-up points made of metallic blocks.
- Render Distance is now a slider and scales from 2 to 32 chunks (up from 12).
- Wolves no longer stand when their owner is attacked.
- Added key binds for opening achievements and statistics pages.
- Caves now spawn in the Nether again (whoops).
- The guidebook now displays all crafting recipes.
- Ghast fireballs now respect the mobGriefing game rule.
- Tweaked spawning rules for the Dog music disc.
- Removed Herobrine.

Spoiler: 7.3 Pre-release 2

Better than Adventure! v7.3-pre2

== Changes ==
- Gave the Trommel a unique bottom texture
- Renamed /spawnparticle to /particle
- Added Accessibility page to Options
- Added two new accessibility options:
- Contextual FOV Modification
- Screen Motion Effects
- Enabled item clumping by default (can be disabled)
- Changed Reinforced Piston textures and model
- Changed Pumice textures
- Changed Activator textures
- Changed Redstone Block textures
- Non-helmet armor can now be worn on the head

== Bug Fixes ==
- Fixed multiplayer minecart interaction bugs
- Fixed incorrect trommel textures
- Fixed Classic world type not using retro textures
- Fixed trapdoors not being climbable above ladders
- Wolves no longer crash the game on contact with lava
- Healing wolves now accounts for the value of the food fed to them
- Fixed NullPointerException when looking at the GUI of a flung tile entity
- Fixed Flower Jar and Sign rendering
- Snowmen no longer throw snowballs from above their heads
- Fixed screen offset padding
- Fixed wolf armor and item not synching
- Fixed minecart synching
- Fixed F3 scaling
- Spawn command no longer teleports the player one block too high
- Wolves no longer infinitely stare at items
- Fixed crash when minimizing the game in some GUIs
- Generating the Far Lands no longer crashes the game
- Fixed crash when pushing signs with pistons
- Crafted quivers are no longer created full of arrows
- Added missing textures
- Fancy cherry trees now spawn with flowering cherry leaves
- Minecarts can now be flung by steel pistons
- Boats now only produce splash particles in water
- Fixed crash that could occur when scrolling command suggestions
- Fixed texture animation option causing chunks to render incorrectly
- Fixed broken portal textures with certain animation options
- Added missing debug language keys
- Fixed title screen easter egg
- Fixed issue where corrupted chunks could softlock the world

Spoiler: 7.3 Pre-release 3

Better than Adventure! v7.3-pre3

== Bug Fixes ==
- Fixed minecarts falling off rails at high speeds
- Fixed "Turn with Vehicle" option not working
- Fixed pumpkin pie sides not rendering correctly
- Fixed signs crashing game if block data not present
- Fuelling furnace minecarts no longer crashes the game
- Wolves now reset fall distance on teleport
- Fixed leaf shadow not applying with lightmaps disabled
- Can no longer obtain "Dimensional Slingshot" achievement from dying
- Fixed command-related crashes
- Fixed incorrect collision box on reinforced piston arm
- "Contextual FOV Modification" setting now also applies to underwater FOV reduction
- Fishing rod leading fixes
- Ghasts respect the NETHER_MOBS_SPAWN block tag
- Fixed chunks not loading properly in multiplayer

Spoiler: 7.3 Pre-release 4

Better than Adventure! v7.3-pre4

== Changes ==
- Removed default keybinds for Toggle Fog and Toggle Gamma
- Renamed Sulphur to Sulfur to align with US English language
- Added startup warning for missing Java Cryptography Extensions
- Improved sound resource downloading process
- Added @shign.bright to the credits screen (congrats!)
- Added the ability to convert steel ingots back into crude steel
- Made recipes for decorative steel items cheaper
- Made biome range map calculation multi-threaded, improving startup performance

== Bug Fixes ==
- Fixed activator texture not updating in multiplayer
- /save command in multiplayer now requires operator permissions to run
- Cobble stairs and slabs now drop themselves rather than gravel when crushed by reinforced pistons
- Adjacent activators no longer crash the game
- Fixed shift-right-clicked armor being inserted into the wrong armor slot
- Fixed pick-block being able to move items into armor slots
- Fixed slow entity texture fetching when variants.json is not defined
- Fixed player shadow rendering at head height rather than feet
- Fixed shadow rendering on inventory playermodel
- Fixed stacked flower jars giving stacked flower items
- Fixed paintings occasionally spawning inside blocks
- Spectators and spectator accessories no longer render for regular players
- Fixed carried containers causing incorrect lighting on other entities
- Fixed entities sometimes using incorrect lightmaps while in some blocks
- Increased precision for slider values
- Fixed -Djava.awt.headless=true and -XstartOnFirstThread being required for macOS players
- Fixed client-side achievements being unobtainable in multiplayer
- Fixed all commands being accessible in singleplayer with cheats disabled
- Disabled shadow rendering on mob spawner display entities
- Made it possible to open the pause screen while in a portal
- Fixed painted slabs and stairs dropping the wrong items
- Fixed bed spawnpoint setting not working in multiplayer
- Fixed fall damage almost never occurring
- Fixed bug causing fireflies to be exceptionally rare
- Bucket spawn protection now accounts for server configuration
- Fixed connection issues between regular rails and powered rails
- Fixed players in boats not loading chunks in multiplayer
- Fixed broken cape animation in boats
- Fixed reinforced pistons not flinging players in multiplayer

Source: BTA Discord.

 

[ビンス]

BTA torches when they receive any form of input:

(And no I am not overloading them they just keep getting fired (at an inconsistent rate) at my door design.)
(Can we use 1.12 or any modern MC mod/version instead of nostalgiafagging?)

Redstone torch burnout is removed in this upcoming update.

 

[mamoya chirimoya]

Redstone torch burnout is removed in this upcoming update.

Oh... thank... thee...

 

[Arcensyl]

Sorry to anyone who's super into the idea of modern Minecraft but we will be sticking to BTA. I just want to make this clear now to avoid confusion or people getting too attached to the idea.

Yeah, fair. I just figured I'd at least bring up Reminiscence since I remembered it existed and it's generally a cool project. BTA is awesome too though; and I'm still really excited to play on a more active server running it.

 

[ビンス]

Question to all of you: how can we ensure that the server remains active?

The Frag Nights are easy since it's one day a week which allows people to miss it all week and come for one day. A 24/7 server fragments and scatters people. I'm sure the server will be super active at launch and then die soon after.

I'm thinking of having an event called a "Block Party" semi-regularly, where we all get on to play at the same time. I just don't know what times or days of the week would work best for this since we have two Frag Nights and a Movie Night now.

What do you all think? Please give me your input.

 

[Shogun_Mosquito]

Maybe have the block party be associated with a goal or activity, so people hang out and work towards something. Sometimes it can be a personal goal (add x to your base), and other times a community goal (create a public park).

You could tie that together with "season goals" or something where there's month-2month long period goals to allow some people to work on things on the off peak hours. And/or maybe competitions where winner gets X.

As much as I hate the obligatory playtime and pushed monetization a lot of new games have, this is something that (in moderation) could help ensure a somewhat steady audience.

 

[RisingThumb]

Next update trailer is shown tomorrow. I'm looking forward to the next update, steel pistons and activators will be fantastic

 

[ビンス]

Next update trailer is shown tomorrow. I'm looking forward to the next update, steel pistons and activators will be fantastic

Coming soon to a Minecraft server near you! I'm just waiting on the official release and then the mods to update. We won't be ready on the day this version releases, but probably very soon after.

 

[RisingThumb]

Coming soon to a Minecraft server near you! I'm just waiting on the official release and then the mods to update. We won't be ready on the day this version releases, but probably very soon after.

Official release comes out the same time as this trailer, if the discord announcements are to be believed
Also cool poster they released:

 

[Andy Kaufman]

I wanna join but last time I tried I couldn't and my cries for help were ignored.

 

[HammerKoopa]

I wanna join but last time I tried I couldn't and my cries for help were ignored.

Because you touch yourself at night.
This is a new era, i know how traumatizing minecraft can be, but we must be strong for the sake of those before and after us. Otherwise, me lad, how can we be true men if we dont are in minecraft mining diamonds? It is time to put down the soylent and pick up the iron pickaxe and get to work

 

[RisingThumb]

Because you touch yourself at night.
This is a new era, i know how traumatizing minecraft can be, but we must be strong for the sake of those before and after us. Otherwise, me lad, how can we be true men if we dont are in minecraft mining diamonds? It is time to put down the soylent and pick up the iron pickaxe and get to work

Wait until Minecraft Alpha becomes what everyone is nostalgic for, and it becomes an inventory of stone pickaxes to flatten mountains. Truly minecrafters of old were just built different

 

[Andy Kaufman]

Because you touch yourself at night.
This is a new era, i know how traumatizing minecraft can be, but we must be strong for the sake of those before and after us. Otherwise, me lad, how can we be true men if we dont are in minecraft mining diamonds? It is time to put down the soylent and pick up the iron pickaxe and get to work

I don't understand. Is the server exclusive?

 

[RisingThumb]

I don't understand. Is the server exclusive?

It's exclusive to Agora road members afaik. I think it's a whitelist situation though because there was rumblings about griefers from somewhere else earlier in the thread

 

[Andy Kaufman]

It's exclusive to Agora road members afaik. I think it's a whitelist situation though because there was rumblings about griefers from somewhere else earlier in the thread

I see. So whenever it goes online again I'd be down to play so add me to that mailing list please.

 

[RisingThumb]

@ビンス and others, curious to hear what other people think.
Would it be possible to have additional mods for BTA alongside it?

• Basket Tipping, which lets you right click a basket to flip it to insert its items into the container and right click to make it back upright to grab items(which combines with the activator to do this tipping). I'm sure @Ashman will love it just as much as I do, because it replaces hopper functionality in a beta-feeling way, and allows for more cool redstone farm designs(i.e. cobblestone collecting facility that then outputs cobblestone into a cobble->gravel->sand machine that then outputs into a trommel, combined with a wood farm to output fuel into them all)