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Are we all dead since 2012

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I dont know and i didnt feel something weird after 2012 but i felt something different. I felt that after 9/11 the world isnt as fantastic as it was during the 80s and 90s and i felt that the entrance to the new decade(2020) came with a lot of enlightment for a remarkable number of the population. Concerning the 2012 theme and conspiracy, i believe that cern did something insidious or they did something with ther discovery of the higgs boson, Or they did an accident or it is just the paranoia of the people. In the scenario of the 2012 earths destruction i believe that the cern in order to save this world, they transferred our universe to an about same parallel universe and after this, it comes the mandela effect known theory. I remember that the date of the worlds destruction was 21/dec/2012. This date is the the annual biggest night and if im not mistaken this day is a feast for cultists pagans, satanists and deep state pedophilia global circuit and all these from the dark side. My another opinion to this scenario is that it was just a ritual as we know that cern isnt as good as the pope( im joking) but even a blind can see their real face ( for example the shiva statue and the ritual video). If the end of the world scenario is true i believe that the worlds restoration process was like the regeneration of the world in the matrix.
 
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I don't think we died, rather, we went into a new cycle, and the first part of any cycle is always shit because the energies and settings are "settling in", so to speak.
It's true that shit seems to have gone down since then, but tbh, I find it pretty interesting to watch.
 
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I was too young to remember the 2008 housing crisis, also I'm not even American... But isn't the housing crisis a better marker for the sentiment of 'the world has ended, reality shifted, time is stuck, etc?' I feel like the only reason why people on boards like /x/ fret about 2012 so much is because of the Mayan meme.

I'm really ignorant about these issues, but surely the housing crisis is what started, or a big contributor, to our current cultural standard.
 
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Some say that the Mandela effect happens as a result of LOTS of people dying. As in millions and billions, over and over.
Millions and billions died so that redditors could wonder over whether it was Berenstein or Berenstain.
Jokes aside . . . I can't say I felt different after 2012 because I was about 9 years old when the world was meant to end. I do remember I made some kids cry because I told them the world was going to end though, and they thought there was going to be a zombie apocalypse. It was around about high school when my personal level fell, but it rose strongly back and I'm the best I've ever been. Except that the past few months I have had something switched. Every thing I see is like it's behind a screen, it's as real as that, and the experience of touch doesn't influence the experience either, it's just like another disjunct sensory experience if it's unfamiliar, and just the same buzzing signals if it's one I am familiar with. When I go to a place now it hardly even feels like I'm there, just like I am supposed to be there. It was only last night where I actually felt real, for the past few weeks I have returned to mma and last night we finally did sparring. It was meant to be light but everyone I partnered with went heavy. My nose might be bent, my feet feel broken, I can't tense my abs without mad pain, but I hadn't felt so good or so genuine in a long time. I don't know if it's from fighting itself, or if it's because it pushed me to my sensory extremes, but now I'm practically back to the same old level now where everything may as well not happen since it's just as unreal either way. Nothing that happens fazes me much or excites me.
I'd naturally think that this is just me getting old, in fact I assumed this is just what happens when you work. But the scary thing is I see this in my brother. I don't think he is actually fazed by much beyond media experience. He is not excited to go places in any typical fashion, in fact you'll tell him something that's meant to be riveting and he'll just add on to it in a matter of fact way. I dunno if he's a kid being a kid or what. I remember when I was a kid I'd practically be jumping up and down over things, things felt new. But, he is exposed to way more media than I am too. I wonder if that's it: the real big change has been that everyone and their parents and grandparents are hooked on media. We are all full of false experiences given to us by media, on-demand and endlessly. Rant over, I need to get more sleep tonight.
 
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Millions and billions died so that redditors could wonder over whether it was Berenstein or Berenstain.
Jokes aside . . . I can't say I felt different after 2012 because I was about 9 years old when the world was meant to end. I do remember I made some kids cry because I told them the world was going to end though, and they thought there was going to be a zombie apocalypse. It was around about high school when my personal level fell, but it rose strongly back and I'm the best I've ever been. Except that the past few months I have had something switched. Every thing I see is like it's behind a screen, it's as real as that, and the experience of touch doesn't influence the experience either, it's just like another disjunct sensory experience if it's unfamiliar, and just the same buzzing signals if it's one I am familiar with. When I go to a place now it hardly even feels like I'm there, just like I am supposed to be there. It was only last night where I actually felt real, for the past few weeks I have returned to mma and last night we finally did sparring. It was meant to be light but everyone I partnered with went heavy. My nose might be bent, my feet feel broken, I can't tense my abs without mad pain, but I hadn't felt so good or so genuine in a long time. I don't know if it's from fighting itself, or if it's because it pushed me to my sensory extremes, but now I'm practically back to the same old level now where everything may as well not happen since it's just as unreal either way. Nothing that happens fazes me much or excites me.
I'd naturally think that this is just me getting old, in fact I assumed this is just what happens when you work. But the scary thing is I see this in my brother. I don't think he is actually fazed by much beyond media experience. He is not excited to go places in any typical fashion, in fact you'll tell him something that's meant to be riveting and he'll just add on to it in a matter of fact way. I dunno if he's a kid being a kid or what. I remember when I was a kid I'd practically be jumping up and down over things, things felt new. But, he is exposed to way more media than I am too. I wonder if that's it: the real big change has been that everyone and their parents and grandparents are hooked on media. We are all full of false experiences given to us by media, on-demand and endlessly. Rant over, I need to get more sleep tonight.
Oh man I feel you. I've been feeling like that for the past three years. I am still looking for the answers why I am like that, I mean I don't enjoy seeing new places or meeting new people, overall I feel like I am not here anymore. There is just a human body, like something has been broken with my perception of reality. Even if I am high (weed, mushrooms, I am going to take LSD too), I don't feel like it is any new experience or something that might give me positive attitude even for a moment. I hadn't been aware of it in 2012, back then I started high school and I hadn't though about such concepts. Right now I feel like I just exist on molecular level and I don't feel anything from the outside world. I sometimes envy other people that they can enjoy life without any overthinking about existence and meaning in life (yeah, there isn't any meaning in life). It is really fucked up, the world we are living right now is such an absurd. I guess the only way is to find some activities that can engage flow within oneself and switch yourself off from the outside world. More than that we are approaching to another crisis so my take is that everything is going to be worse.
 

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I think that the Mayans by saying that the end will come doesnt neccesarily meant a total destruction or an armageddon. I will say an old proverb, when a circle closes, another opens, that sounds weird because it translated from my native language, but its meaning is when a door closes another one opens, maybe the mayans meant that the beginning of the end will start at 2012, maybe their. The 1st case i believe regarding this topic is that since 2012 till now many people were consciously developed. This is how i feel, perhaps their writings were misinterpreted,maybe their meaning was different and their meaning was more optimistic( for example the beginning of the end of darkness).
 
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I think that the Mayans by saying that the end will come doesnt neccesarily meant a total destruction or an armageddon. I will say an old proverb, when a circle closes, another opens, that sounds weird because it translated from my native language, but its meaning is when a door closes another one opens, maybe the mayans meant that the beginning of the end will start at 2012, maybe their. The 1st case i believe regarding this topic is that since 2012 till now many people were consciously developed. This is how i feel, perhaps their writings were misinterpreted,maybe their meaning was different and their meaning was more optimistic( for example the beginning of the end of darkness).
I completely understand what you mean, it is good to know that things cannot stay stagnant forever. Some of those who believe in the Atlanteans, believe that some select survivors of the sinking continent spread across the world and shared their knowledge. I do not necessarily believe in Atlantis but I appreciate the power of the myth to illustrate how in emergent systems such as human civilization cycles are operating on every level. Doing martial arts again lately, I recall a saying passed around that a good student becomes a good master, who becomes a good teacher, who becomes a good student. Cycles are important and are present everywhere you look, the only constant is change.
 
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Since 2012 the world hasn't seemed right. did we all die in a flash from something like a metro. Are brains haven't processed it yet. we can still have activity in a dream like state for 7 minutes but to the person it seems forever.
I personally believe It all ended in 2016 rather than 2012. Nothing quite like that summer.
 
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The world was supposed to end in 2012 anyway, so it honestly makes sense. I don't know if I've even felt alive since then. Everything has just felt manufactured and ridiculous to the point it's sickening, maybe you're on to something. I recall saying something very similar to your prompt to a friend in late 2019 before the whole world shit itself for 2+ years and counting. R.I.P. I feel like music and media had its peak in 2012; not saying all the music from that era was great, but in a way I felt it still had an artistic expression behind it, some truth and reality still. Maybe I'm just a Nihilist, but damn it all kinda sucks nowadays and I can't remember a time since 2012 where it hasn't not sucked, even just a little bit.
 
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I dont know but i feel cern is responsible. There are many theories about it, and also their accelerator and their statue in their yard makes them more suspicious of having dark connections.
 
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I dont know but i feel cern is responsible. There are many theories about it, and also their accelerator and their statue in their yard makes them more suspicious of having dark connections.
Also the cerns accelerator starts again today.
 
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idk, more like culture, opinion shift. cant find that image, but LW and RW swapped their tendencies around then
 
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I've been researching a bit about the 2012 Apocalypse panic for a short story and some Mayan scholars think that instead of the end of the world, 2012 was predicted to be the coming of a new cycle, a time of spiritual renewal. In HS this was a talking point between hippie minded professors, the ever increasing acceptance of homosexual marriage was a sign for the times to come. Perhaps 2012 would be the new age of Aquarius.

Yeah well nothing that epic happened at the time and you only think something changed because of retrospective. In terms of internet culture, Harambe (Rest in peace brotha) had a bigger cultural impact on internet culture than 2012 as a year (imo). If there was a cultural shift, surely you have to point to the Housing Crisis, Occupy WST or Trump's presidency. To mark 2012 as a point of defining change shows more than anything a cope to make sense out of not-quite-right times. It doesn't help that for many of us 2012 was around or 'coming of age' out of childhood: It introduced us to the idea that the world can end, that death comes even for children.

But I think those feelings don't point to anything much than an all too common human fear for time. What hasn't been right since 2012 that was right in the past? If there's anything, I believe this will point to a confusion of fleeting privileges with eternal facts about history.
 
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I get the feeling that a lot of people blame specific specific years or instances as "the world going to shit" where in reality it's just that those were the times when they started to grow up and learned what the world actually is
 
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or there was some shift happening. could be both
 
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