Canada will soon offer assisted suicide to the mentally ill

[xxXJohn SmithXxx]

"Canada will soon offer assisted suicide to the mentally ill"

For now.
A few more year and if the "doctor" decided it ,it will be done with brute force if it need it.

Paralympian claims Canada offered to euthanise her when she asked for a stairlift

'I have a letter saying that if you're so desperate, madam, we can offer you... medical assistance in dying,' Christine Gauthier told a Canadian veterans affairs committee

www.independent.co.uk

 

[punisheddead]

Canadians also want to suicide the homeless. Where on the horseshoe did the enlightened liberal saviour Canada land when a third of it's population is fine with literally executing the poors and mentally ill?

 

[xxXJohn SmithXxx]

@punisheddead
People didn't give a fuck about eachother.
This isn't something new.

 

[punisheddead]

@punisheddead
People didn't give a fuck about eachother.
This isn't something new.

You are right it's not, but I wasn't expecting the polite Canadians to go this mask off.

 

[xxXJohn SmithXxx]

@punisheddead
After the literally Indian "student visa scam" invasion, I expecting much more violence, like burning people on street type of violence in Canada.

 

[InternetGeist]

Canadians also want to suicide the homeless. Where on the horseshoe did the enlightened liberal saviour Canada land when a third of it's population is fine with literally executing the poors and mentally ill?

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Can't find a solution to a problem? lol just yeet the problem

I am all for assisted suicide if the person who requests for it can consent at his own will and prove that no other external resource is helpful in re-evaluating the desperate resort to death. But in the situation of homelessness and poverty, where the resource is available but almost never accessible, the yearning for suicide is just a consequence of a terrible environment with chances to be improved.

 

[xxXJohn SmithXxx]

@InternetGeist
The assisted suicide are a slippery slope. First the people who can't end his own suffering,then the mentally ill, homeless,poor, and in the end people who's opinion are different from the government or they don't bring the quote numbers in the jobs.

 

[punisheddead]

@punisheddead
After the literally Indian "student visa scam" invasion, I expecting much more violence, like burning people on street type of violence in Canada.

Honestly fuck em, I feel no pity. I know I would go through hell if I ever needed a Canadian visa.

I am all for assisted suicide if the person who requests for it can consent at his own will and prove that no other external resource is helpful in re-evaluating the desperate resort to death. But in the situation of homelessness and poverty, where the resource is available but almost never accessible, the yearning for suicide is just a consequence of a terrible environment with chances to be improved.

It's hard to wrap my head around to figure out what exactly caused this weird shift, this is absolutely not normal behaviour and is not going to help anyone. Homelessness is a very real possibility for many people and some have gotten out of it. I guess Canadians white saviour complexed too hard, snapped and convinced themselves that a bullet in someone else head is the best option for them. (i know they don't do a bullet but they might as well)

The assisted suicide are a slippery slope. First the people who can't end his own suffering,then the mentally ill, homeless,poor, and in the end people who's opinion are different from the government or they don't bring the quote numbers in the jobs.

Agreed. Might be rough to say but If someone wants to kill themselves they don't need anyone's permission. Once the government starts killing "for your own good" they're never gonna take that power back. If they really wanted it only for the terminally ill who are in pain it would stay that way, instead they seem to be looking to expand those "benefits" to every other form of disability and doctors are pushing it hard.

 

[Orlando Smooth]

Where on the horseshoe did the enlightened liberal saviour Canada land when a third of it's population is fine with literally executing the poors and mentally ill?

In 2021, more than 8.3 million people, or almost one-quarter (23.0%) of the population, were, or had ever been, a landed immigrant or permanent resident in Canada. That's only counting immigrants themselves, not their children who were born Canadians.

Tfw your entire national identity is "we're not America!" so you completely open the borders to own the Yankees, only to find that there is actually a reason countries have enforced immigration restrictions for all of time.

 

[xxXJohn SmithXxx]

Canada are fucked. Shame, I'm always wanted a Canadian girlfriend.

There are a reason why my country is more than 1100 year old, and there is a reason why Canada won't live to see the next hundred year.

 

[InternetGeist]

@InternetGeist
The assisted suicide are a slippery slope. First the people who can't end his own suffering,then the mentally ill, homeless,poor, and in the end people who's opinion are different from the government or they don't bring the quote numbers in the jobs.

There is nothing wrong with the concept itself and only in its application when a clear power imbalance exists. It is impossible to objectively evaluate if a person is "qualified" enough for death in terms of having the cognitive ability to give consents and the sufferings outweigh the probability of finding an alternative, or is just pushed to the edge by completely external factors that can be removed. The government or the corporate can't just simply sign people up for a trip to hell, but they certainly can manipulate the circumstance to the extent where a person seeks death as an easy exit from the agonizing situation.

It's hard to wrap my head around to figure out what exactly caused this weird shift, this is absolutely not normal behaviour and is not going to help anyone. Homelessness is a very real possibility for many people and some have gotten out of it. I guess Canadians white saviour complexed too hard, snapped and convinced themselves that a bullet in someone else head is the best option for them. (i know they don't do a bullet but they might as well)

It is a problem that has existed for too long and never gets solved. Learned helplessness has convinced people that the only way to beat the game achievable by a powerless individual is just to press the X button.

 

[xxXJohn SmithXxx]

@InternetGeist
You have your own world view and I have too.
But my opinion is: if we go full 1984 then I turn to terrorist and start killing people's in high positions.

 

[Aral]

Fuck. As usual, forgot I posted this. I cringe at how I worded my post back then ("capitalist hellscape", blergh), but I'm still baffled that euthanasia for mental illness is becoming an actual option. Like those fucking nightmare fuel suicide pods from Switzerland. For terminal illness I can get it, but for mental illness? Bring back asylums instead. It still feels like, you know, making this an option feels like an ultimate middle finger to people who are struggling in a society that is getting sicker and sicker and where the new normal is abnormality. As in, as I mentioned, doom porn 24/7 on TV, broken families, stupid cost of living, identity politics, increasing tension, the feeling that if you say one wrong thing you'll get the mob after you... all of that.

Instead of helping them, it's pretty much, "welp, I guess you'll have to kill yourself now, can't do shit for you anymore!". Damn. Even when I'm struggling to envision a viable future for myself and just think it's going to be the same shit until I die (or my parents die first), I still wouldn't take that option. That hasn't changed in two years. I'm not getting euthanized even if it's legal.

 

[punisheddead]

Seems the Canadian government has been taking tips from the prolific Samuel Hydeh.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMMTEC_RjZc


(can't believe no one posted this here yet)

It still feels like, you know, making this an option feels like an ultimate middle finger to people who are struggling in a society that is getting sicker and sicker and where the new normal is abnormality.

Instead of helping them, it's pretty much, "welp, I guess you'll have to kill yourself now, can't do shit for you anymore!". Damn.

It is the ultimate middle finger. Struggling people have been told for decades that "it's okay" and that "they're people too", that they should be respected and on the same playing field as "the normals". And it took one, just one period, of not continuously prospering, one crisis for not only the governments but a substantial chunk of normals to go "Yeah no we give up you aren't normal and we can't help you, just look at the pretty sunset please."

I don't think there are words to describe my absolute disgust towards the Canadian government and doctors pushing this shit. I can't imagine what twisted like of thinking you have to have to justify this towards yourself.

I'm not getting euthanized even if it's legal.

Seeing stuff like this just fuels my spite. I'll keep living for as long as I can, syphoning whatever I can from the Élite who hate me but still have to pretend they don't.

 

[Digital Cheese]

Canadians when I tell them to kill themselves (I'm not a doctor so I can't give them medical advice legally)

 

[alix]

This is just the next step of the "pleasurification" of society. Oh, you are depressed because of the current psychologically damaging living conditions (high house prices, personal isolation, hyperconsumism, normalized doomerism, etc...)? Just forget about it, consume more, and take some pills® to feel better. Still don't feel better? Poor guy, it must be so hard living like this. Why don't you just kill yourself?

It's not the concept of killing yourself that disgusts me, it's the fact that this is being promoted as normal. Adapt to the living conditions that we set and don't fix or die. It's social darwinism, but instead of the strong surviving it's the ones who accept it. It is a middle finger.

The second worst thing of Canada. The first is the fact that they let half of the country speak french.

 

[xxXJohn SmithXxx]

@Alixie Shukshin
Your comments reminds me this comic.

 

[【ｄｉｅｔ ｄｅｉｔｙ】]

you just have to be brave enough to see it, anon

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bssvubnVvgg

 

[InternetGeist]

This is just the next step of the "pleasurification" of society. Oh, you are depressed because of the current psychologically damaging living conditions (high house prices, personal isolation, hyperconsumism, normalized doomerism, etc...)? Just forget about it, consume more, and take some pills® to feel better. Still don't feel better? Poor guy, it must be so hard living like this. Why don't you just kill yourself?

This is exactly what modern psychiatry is preaching, that psychological misery as a result of the environment can be solved by heavy medication. Oh this drug does not work and you are still feeling terrible? No worries sweetheart just increase the dosage and try this new experimental drug! Now wage harder so you can afford your happy pills.

Drug becomes the easy fix and death becomes the backup option. No one in power is willing to fix the real problem with the profits it outputs.

 

[nakadashi]

Canada will soon offer doctor-assisted death to the mentally ill. Who should be eligible?

Canada is still determining who should be eligible for MAID for mental illness, but some experts say it could become the most permissive jurisdiction in the world

nationalpost.com

Found this kinda by chance this morning. I'm not sure how to feel about that. Even as someone who isn't having a great time right now.

On one hand I understand that some people are straight up untreatable and that, just like physical illnesses, sometimes it's just better to put an end to their misery... but on the other, I can't help but see a cop-out here. Why are these people mentally unwell in the first place? What is actually making them this way? Wouldn't they feel better if, for example, we didn't live in a capitalist hellscape? What if the news showed better things instead of catastrophe after another? What if we promoted a stable family model rather than the broken households pretty much every kid is born in now? What if women were more encouraged to stay at home and raise the kids for their own mental equilibrium rather than work and leave them to nanny after nanny, or straight up abandon them to iPads? What if salaries could be raised while the cost of life gets higher and higher? What if, hmm, there was more aid for families, for the mother (or maybe father, some want to be stay at home dads) to be able to stay at home? What if people didn't work bullshit jobs most of the time and weren't wage slaves? There is just so much stuff and just thinking about it feels utopian, but...

What if we improved people's lives instead of literally showing them the door? There is so much that could be done. Yet no. It's better to give them the alternative to kill themselves rather than, idk, make life a little more bearable for everyone else.

I definitely will never set a foot in Canada, not even to kill myself. I'd still rather cut my throat open with a boxcutter in the middle of nowhere and have the vultures feed on my dead body than ever touch this degenerate country with a ten foot pole.

I mean, I don't fundamentally disagree with anything you said. But as you mention, that's too utopian for any government to implement. It is simply more cost-feasible to install a reset button than trying to solve a topic as difficult even to define as mental illnesses. Is it a purely environmental thing, as you seem to propose, or is it genetically determined as some somatic diseases are?
Also I am not of the idea that mental illnesses were any less common in more traditional family models, although I am very Freud-influenced which would at once make a lot of people disregard my comments, but I do believe that a lot of mental diseases come from repressed desires.
Overall I think this is a risky move, given that most people with mental diseases don't have the capacity to properly decide whether they keep living or not. This will definitely be a final push towards ending their lives for those who are contemplating suicide, as they would think that if it is legal then it must be morally correct.