Canada will soon offer assisted suicide to the mentally ill

[vulonkaaz]

i am not against whatever the fuck canada is doing right now but the reason for that is that I think the only reason why physical matter and organic life exist is to provide data to immortal immaterial beings and I think the extreme dystopia that they're building over there is a good experiment and will provide valuable data

now I am *really* glad to be far from that shit lmao

 

[WhiteSnake]

Mark my words, there may not be a Canada in a soon enough future.

No promises, but Canada is not sustainable as an entity. Canada is owned by a handful of oligarchs who have no interest in running an actual country. They want a company town that functions off debt and wage slavery.

The merit of institutionalizing murder in an unprecedented level is going to come back on the country as a whole eventually. When that happens, it will be disastrous.

I advise the agora road travelers caution when speaking in this topic, as you are all doomed to live in interesting times. Your actions will return, like it or not, in familiar forms here and after.

 

[nsequeira119]

I've often said that Canada is a dysfunctional nation- maybe with a higher average standard of living than America, but that's only because they have a much lower population, so statistically you'll have an easier time there. The handwaving we do for Canada has always confused me, and them passing a law like this only confuses me further. At any rate, if suicide is legalized, I won't be doing it, so it's sorta irrelevant to me. I hope all the people who are considering it also consider that there's no God and they aren't going anywhere afterwards

 

[WhiteSnake]

I've often said that Canada is a dysfunctional nation- maybe with a higher average standard of living than America, but that's only because they have a much lower population, so statistically you'll have an easier time there. The handwaving we do for Canada has always confused me, and them passing a law like this only confuses me further.

The passing of this law is because the country is run by a handful of robber barons. Not all wealthy people are stupid, but all robber barons are.

Murder (this is infact murder and not suicide.) is a cheaper option in the short term. Plus, it'll have a good effect of being able to just kill off political problem causers. Which we've already seen starting to happen.

With regards to the handwave? It's because Canada perfected their propaganda of being "nice and harmless and polite". Canada is absolutely a dysfunctional nation, but it's criminal oligarchs make enough money to hide that from people outside.

At any rate, if suicide is legalized, I won't be doing it, so it's sorta irrelevant to me. I hope all the people who are considering it also consider that there's no God and they aren't going anywhere afterwards

It should be very relevant to you. It's a slippery slope, and it won't be ending with people who are actively seeking it out. It will, and already is being, applied to inconvenient peoples.

As well as just, random fuckers. If allowed to spread, it's going to get to a point where posting something on agora road is enough to get you "signed up for MAID".

WRT the last point on God, the thing you're misunderstanding is that people who seek it out often believe exactly that.

This includes many many western religionists. Monotheism is often nihilistic after all. Especially within protestant context.

 

[nsequeira119]

The passing of this law is because the country is run by a handful of robber barons. Not all wealthy people are stupid, but all robber barons are.

Murder (this is infact murder and not suicide.) is a cheaper option in the short term. Plus, it'll have a good effect of being able to just kill off political problem causers. Which we've already seen starting to happen.

With regards to the handwave? It's because Canada perfected their propaganda of being "nice and harmless and polite". Canada is absolutely a dysfunctional nation, but it's criminal oligarchs make enough money to hide that from people outside.

It should be very relevant to you. It's a slippery slope, and it won't be ending with people who are actively seeking it out. It will, and already is being, applied to inconvenient peoples.

As well as just, random fuckers. If allowed to spread, it's going to get to a point where posting something on agora road is enough to get you "signed up for MAID".

WRT the last point on God, the thing you're misunderstanding is that people who seek it out often believe exactly that.

This includes many many western religionists. Monotheism is often nihilistic after all. Especially within protestant context.

I suppose if something as banal as posting to Agora Road were enough to get you signed up for it, the semantic difference between murder and suicide would become a greater point of contention. Which could be interesting.

My main argument against suicide is simply that it's unnecessary considering that death is an inevitability, and the human lifespan isn't that long in the grand scheme of things. Lots of people denounce the act of suicide as "selfish," but I think a more applicable epithet would be "impatient."

 

[WhiteSnake]

I suppose if something as banal as posting to Agora Road were enough to get you signed up for it, the semantic difference between murder and suicide would become a greater point of contention. Which could be interesting.

Personally what I suspect is that you'll just be killed and they'll lie and claim you asked for it...or they'll go "oopsie poopsie my bad eh? Sorry!"

Which is something we've already started to see as MAID has started murdering people who weren't interested at all. For now they're doing this primarily to inconvenient disabled people and randos in the hospital. There's been a few lawsuits over it already. All we're waiting for is it to get bad enough that you get bagged into a random hospital and killed after a few hours or days of waiting.

If we get to that point, I imagine any story that comes out will claim you wanted it and got into some sort of accident etc etc etc.

My main argument against suicide is simply that it's unnecessary considering that death is an inevitability, and the human lifespan isn't that long in the grand scheme of things. Lots of people denounce the act of suicide as "selfish," but I think a more applicable epithet would be "impatient."

Can't disagree there, that's good logic on a lot of levels.

It's here I'm gonna insert my own understanding on things vis-a-vis pedantics;

Suicide can only be done by yourself. If someone aids it in any way at all, it's no longer suicide. It's murder. Calling it "assisted death" or "assisted suicide" or even "euthanasia" is just a nice way to say "homicide".

 

[Alice N Chain]

Is an American able to sneak himself into doing this procedure somehow? Asking for a friend.

 

[Parzival]

Canada delenda est...

 

[Kallisto]

I've got to get out of this Dystopian hellscape...

 

[The Chibi One]

Don't you just love the fact it's always vagueposting about "mental illness" in the legislature covering this topic that could mean anything from "literal sociopath who wants to eat children and won't stop killing" to "depressed and angry because of current shit going on"? I know they don't mean the former, they give those PS5s over there. Just makes you wonder.

If Covid showed anything clearly even to the lowest common denominator is that governments and large organisations can (and will) claim anything to be anything they want in order to push some agenda (see car accident victims having death cause writen off as Covid because they were asymptomatic when they crashed). I get that occasionally there are real physiological instances that make euthanasia a merciful thing (think painful terminal diseases with no chance of recovery etc) but what the fuck does "mental illness" even mean? What are the criteria? I would concede that even their retarded homelessness tirade that was posted some pages ago has an objective set of criteria.

(Also lol at them being "so hospitable eh" and at the same time wanting to gas all the poorfags).

You heard it from Canada first, folks. Don't bother trying to improve your lot in life or forge genuine connections with others in the limited time you have on this Earth. Just listen to all those people back in a 2008 CoD lobby for self-help advice.