Childhood adultification and the future of society

Some rumors (mostly lies and misunderstandings) say Republicans would (somewhere) love that. Idk, too much internet for, them, everyone. Making too much ado about literally every idea under the sun nowadays. You know, clickbait, shame, false awareness, alarms, new sexualities perversities celebrity es and all that jazz. Really, "news at 11" (saying)...

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Where I leave, people are starting to work VERY early on. Until very recently, it was not uncommon to see 10 year old working until a new law made the minimum age to be 14.

IMO, working that early is kinda throwing your childhood/teenagehood in your trash. I am glad I never did this. Is this a thing in USA as well?
What country are you from then?
 
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In modern degenerate society a number of worrying trends have emerged. One of these trends is the rise of the adult child. Among people under the age of 35 roughly half still live with their parents. Toy consumption by adults has gone through the roof, romantic relationships through the floor, and abilities such as how to cook for oneself and other basic self-care tasks have declined significantly. But who is the culprit behind this mess? Well I believe it is in large part due to a trend of adultification of children that I believe will have effected many of the readers here (including myself). This phrase is used by the psychologist Sam Vaknin (a personal favourite of mine) to describe the practice of putting children in developmentally inappropriate roles. The most common form of this occurs in the form of what is known as emotional incest/covert incest in which an adult looks to their child for emotional support during hard times. This is an example of a developmentally inappropriate role. That of having to emotionally support your parents when the person is emotionally under developed. This is but one example of this. There are others including parentification when an absent caregiver puts the role of taking care of a child on to another child. There is a lot of this in modern society. I would argue that the entire education system is predicated on doing this. For example purely theoretical instruction based education doesn't work for children as kids generally learn with an adult directly present. For example if a kid wants to learn how to climb a tree they will generally only do it if an adult is watching. This is so the kid has a safety net should something go wrong. There is a lot of this around.

The effects of this form of abuse are massive and can range from boundary issues to developmental problems. This has lead me to believe that a huge part of the issues we see today stem from this form of abuse on a mass scale. For example romantic relations have declined in large part due to boundary problems and lack of ability to negotiate. This ties into the education system's tendency to not assist feuding kids solve their issues but rather to instead make the problem go away for the benefit of the staff. Typically by imposing separation. This I believe is an example of prioritising the needs of the adults over the children. This is in large part what has happened over the past 30 years. Placing children into adult social roles when they're not prepared for it. The role of taking care of the adults and subordinating their own needs for it. This is in effect depriving children of a real childhood in favour of one spent meeting the needs of the adults around them. People like to pretend that people born from the 90s onwards had great childhoods filled with cool franchises but completely ignore the more important things.

But what is the effect of this going to be? Well I think we're already seeing it in things like adults buying toys. But long term I think we can expect a huge rise in things like adult babies and possibly a legal category of trans aged people. If more and more adults are developmentally stuck as half children, half adults then surely as time goes by these people will realise the damage done and start demanding that they get the development they never got. Of course there are numerous problems with doing this but either way I think we can soon expect adults applying to primary schools in the name of equality. We'll also see the normalisation of this abuse with something along the lines of "people mature at different ages".

I can expand further but I feel this introduction would go on too long. Feel free to ask for further clarification.
I can relate to this.

Me being born in 1998, I was born in a time where Autism was still considered as a mental illness, and had barely gained any weight. But it was during a time when enough emphasis was being put on it for special ed to be in effect. Unfortunately, special education was...dysfunctional.

Many of the staff and teachers of special ed were neglectful. Rather than teaching us how to act to the best of our abilities, they treated us as a mere nuisance; less than human. This is because they not only saw us as Autistic, but because they also taught us what they thought how an Autist should act; Autistic, reinforcing this stereotype and riveting this detrimental cycle into our psyche. Whenever I tried to act normally, I would be punished harshly when I made a mistake; a mistake that these teachers would normally overlook in neurotypical students.

But they weren't just holding a double standard against me; but a triple standard, as I was the victim of favoritism. Some of my special ed teachers favored Autists who were more disabled than I am, simply because they were more disabled.

I was never taught how to think for myself, let alone act for myself in school until I turned 17. Sometimes, I cannot help but feel like I'm mentally behind, because of my mental development to which these adults have repressed.

I was basically set up to fail in my youth, which is all more the reason why I was so rebellious. If anything, I felt like the adults were trying to be the kids, and the kids were being forced to be adults.

So, is it any wonder why there are adults like me who feel like children? In some rare cases, some of these kids didn't even have a childhood. If anyone is at fault, its the adults who neglected their own responsibilities to overlook our development, and putting their own selfish agenda first.
 
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Children being put into more adult roles (obviously excluding sexual ones) occasionally is okay and is a natural part of growing up. Shielding them from difficult or adult topics and themes leads to an 18 year old thrust on the world with an unrealistic and naïve view on life. It may be unfair for a parent to burden their child with their feelings, but learning that one's parents are fallible and human is an important moment to have. A 16 year old getting their first part time job is to be celebrated as a rite of passage, a 10 year old working any job is a problem. Children should be eased into adulthood, but that can only be made so gentle and delayed so long. An adult child typically wasn't robbed of a childhood, they simply refused to "grow up" fully.

One issue is that the Millennial/Zoomer crowd by and large are a bunch of consoomers that buy into an especially childish brand of consumerism. They were shielded the entire time by the powers that be most of their lives, and constantly fed their inner child with the instant gratification of the internet. Eventually that inner child grew so big that their precious Funko Pop collection holds the same emotional weight as a newborn baby. Of course its not all Funko Pops, for some it's cars, porn, Marvel, Star Wars... etc. I mean I'm even I'm guilty of this to an extent! Thousands of hours spent just watching YouTube because it tickled my brain the right way, and I didn't have to think about real life for a bit.

I mean Millennials/Zoomies were already facing an uphill battle as they grew up during the internet's explosion in the midst of poor economic prospects. Destroying their attention spans and dopamine systems. On top of that, for a lot of them homeownership is a pipe dream that they will never experience and many have given up on. The age for smoking was kicked up to the drinking age reducing many smoking age "adult" zoomies to asking their 21yr old friends to get them smokes. About the only thing that changed on their birthday was that the law will come down twice as hard on them now, I bet they didn't feel like adults. They were also the infamous participation award generation.

As for child sexualization... online it won't stop until normies acknowledge that it will never be safe for a young child to be on the internet unsupervised, and that children wearing even seemingly benign clothes and striking weird poses can be seen as sexual to a predator . Very young girls are constantly lusted over on Instagram under the pretense of "gymnastics/fashion/swimwear", the children themselves are probably too young to be aware, but some adults running the accounts know and pander to that crowd. This is just swept under the rug because "my child can wear whatever they want" or "I don't tell my child what to wear", and the responsibility is shoved onto the criminal to act morally. TikTok is just as bad with new sexual trends being picked up by waves of impressionable children and plenty of "fans" sprout up for these young girls. Of course the solution being cooked up is the censoring and sanitizing of the internet because that solves the problem and gives governments more power.

tl;dr people dont want to grow up because there's little hope economically, and its easier to drown in a sea of licensed porg plushies while watching their favourite season of Breaking Bad in their parents basement.
 
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Me having shitty childhood (my "own" fault), I try to be curious as 4-year old (I like weird colors, flavours, smells), while feeling constant doom, waiting for asteroid, EMP or climate crisis - that is how I cope with my - childhood.
Having lot of health issues got me barricaded at home and hospitals.
This has me have "skill-issues".
Shy, mood swings, outbursts (trauma, lack of contact with peers I guess, no common ground with them), no eye contact, running away from people or walk a mile around them because their "vibe" - or maybe, the opposite that I liked them.
To this day, I have weird head movements, don't know what to do with my face, think of them attacking me, or me attacking them (as "revenge" for my childhood - trauma blaming?)
Being kind, smart, witty and calm will get you nowhere as kid. No if you are just "random stuff"-smart, not genius, "having spatial vision (wtf is that good for)", can draw (0 patience) and I at times got no shame (me, being over with all soc clues)

Having goofy dangerous and well-known-around friend randomly getting attacked by some dudes out of blue, doesn't help
So I held myself at high ground, because I acted like 80 when I was 10, 12 (shitty health, transplantated kidney, urostomy) - this has me laughter at, ridiculed and questioning my sanity (classmates didn't know) - no trips, no PE, no socials (when I liked or wanted to people, I just ran away from people - and maybe waited for somebody to join me...)
Stupid ostomy, night urine collection bag, stupid kidney ... - no swimming, no skiing, no dangerous things, no much physical activity (gets wet and the waffer falls off)
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So yeah, those are stuff why I cope and want to, maybe (if left alone) - recreate my childhood now, that years of holding myself into obtuse bitch ruined me. For the sake of safety... I - was my illness, and it got me mentally and psychologically ruined. Acting as adult (senior) at upon childhood - being kid in adulthood. Is it valid?
 
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Children being put into more adult roles (obviously excluding sexual ones) occasionally is okay and is a natural part of growing up. Shielding them from difficult or adult topics and themes leads to an 18 year old thrust on the world with an unrealistic and naïve view on life. It may be unfair for a parent to burden their child with their feelings, but learning that one's parents are fallible and human is an important moment to have. A 16 year old getting their first part time job is to be celebrated as a rite of passage, a 10 year old working any job is a problem. Children should be eased into adulthood, but that can only be made so gentle and delayed so long. An adult child typically wasn't robbed of a childhood, they simply refused to "grow up" fully.
And why would they, as the alternative is so appealing, as you later mention. However I have to ask, why has it become this way? From the 50s onwards life has been just as consumerist, yet only in the 90s did we start seeing people give up adulthood for it?

Here's my theory.

1. They lack a faith, to pressure them into making a live for themselves. This causes them to be hedonistic in nature.

2. They have no hope for the world and themselves, economically and otherwise. This is because they're a generation surrounded by bleak and depressing world events given to them by the media. Which may cause them to believe there life has no purpose of it's all going to shit. So they don't try, and they feel guilty, which causes them to hate themselves.

Anyway that's my thoughts. Overall I thought your post really nailed the issue on the head except for my points above.
 
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What country are you from then?
I live in Canada, in the province of Quebec. I was curious if the "young working" is a thing in the USA (or anywhere else in the world) as well.
 
I live in Canada, in the province of Quebec. I was curious if the "young working" is a thing in the USA (or anywhere else in the world) as well.
lol, it was your post (MP), so i am not pinging you - thats right then, it is the same thread - i just wanted to copy the thread, but since it is (we are) *here*, there is no need -
- goofy-yay, mine relinking and connecting lol ("everythig is connected")

> talking about (#51; #44)
 
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Children being put into more adult roles (obviously excluding sexual ones) occasionally is okay and is a natural part of growing up. Shielding them from difficult or adult topics and themes leads to an 18 year old thrust on the world with an unrealistic and naïve view on life. It may be unfair for a parent to burden their child with their feelings, but learning that one's parents are fallible and human is an important moment to have. A 16 year old getting their first part time job is to be celebrated as a rite of passage, a 10 year old working any job is a problem. Children should be eased into adulthood, but that can only be made so gentle and delayed so long. An adult child typically wasn't robbed of a childhood, they simply refused to "grow up" fully.

One issue is that the Millennial/Zoomer crowd by and large are a bunch of consoomers that buy into an especially childish brand of consumerism. They were shielded the entire time by the powers that be most of their lives, and constantly fed their inner child with the instant gratification of the internet. Eventually that inner child grew so big that their precious Funko Pop collection holds the same emotional weight as a newborn baby. Of course its not all Funko Pops, for some it's cars, porn, Marvel, Star Wars... etc. I mean I'm even I'm guilty of this to an extent! Thousands of hours spent just watching YouTube because it tickled my brain the right way, and I didn't have to think about real life for a bit.

I mean Millennials/Zoomies were already facing an uphill battle as they grew up during the internet's explosion in the midst of poor economic prospects. Destroying their attention spans and dopamine systems. On top of that, for a lot of them homeownership is a pipe dream that they will never experience and many have given up on. The age for smoking was kicked up to the drinking age reducing many smoking age "adult" zoomies to asking their 21yr old friends to get them smokes. About the only thing that changed on their birthday was that the law will come down twice as hard on them now, I bet they didn't feel like adults. They were also the infamous participation award generation.

As for child sexualization... online it won't stop until normies acknowledge that it will never be safe for a young child to be on the internet unsupervised, and that children wearing even seemingly benign clothes and striking weird poses can be seen as sexual to a predator . Very young girls are constantly lusted over on Instagram under the pretense of "gymnastics/fashion/swimwear", the children themselves are probably too young to be aware, but some adults running the accounts know and pander to that crowd. This is just swept under the rug because "my child can wear whatever they want" or "I don't tell my child what to wear", and the responsibility is shoved onto the criminal to act morally. TikTok is just as bad with new sexual trends being picked up by waves of impressionable children and plenty of "fans" sprout up for these young girls. Of course the solution being cooked up is the censoring and sanitizing of the internet because that solves the problem and gives governments more power.

tl;dr people dont want to grow up because there's little hope economically, and its easier to drown in a sea of licensed porg plushies while watching their favourite season of Breaking Bad in their parents basement.
True, not all adult children were robbed of a childhood. But in some cases, they were. Some refuse to grow up because they had a traumatic childhood experience. Some children even weren't allowed to grow up. I should know, as I had a really hard time growing up being mistreated, ostracized, and pigeonholed for my Autism.
 
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well, where does these news (clickbait) live in, what universe :)
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ok, schizopost (not mine - i found it one day and i dont remember why and what i was looking for XD)
 
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well, where does these news (clickbait) live in, what universe :)
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ok, schizopost (not mine - i found it one day and i dont remember why and what i was looking for XD)
I usually like to disassociate myself with such drama.

If I were to ever have a kid, I'd try and give them a better life than the one I grew up with.
 
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Adults still living with their parents have been a thing for a long time all over the world. It's only Jewish Americans (and retards that mimic any retarded shit that Americans do) that try shaming them so they will buy new homes or renting new apartments, therefore spending more money, therefore making rich people richer. Also they try shaming people who still live with their parents so they will break the family bonds that are considered a threat to globalists that want citizens to treat government as their daddies.

Besides many people that work and have a career still live with their parents and contribute to the family like helping their parents with the home's expenses (especially now with economic crisis thanks to greedy globalists).

If anything, society has gotten worse because of shit like kids living with single moms (and I don't talk about widows but about divorced mothers, fathers running away the moment they learn that they left a woman pregnant etc). For example the majority of school shooters come from single mothers families and the majority of minors being molested to start living as trannies are from single mothers families.

Not to mention that even when young adults "live at their own", they still get money help from their parents (even if said young adults have a good job but can't handle daily expenses properly) and they always call their parents all the time to babysit their kids so they can continue the lifestyle they used to have before marrying like going to night clubs.
I completely agree with you here.
There isn't actually anything "wrong" with an adult living with their parents. It's very common in immigrant families and I've known a lot of people who do this well into their early 30's sometimes because of financial problems/breakups/losing their jobs/health problems or they're simply taking care of their parents and helping them out while advancing their lives and saving money. There's a myriad of reasons for this arrangement but they get ridiculed by everyone around them or get branded with the "guy who lives in his mother's basement" trope to crap on them. Many such cases because Western media paints a fraudulent expectation for every step of one's life and Americans have been addicted to the television since the 1950s. I actually would go as far to say that more people should be taking their time with moving out for the first time. They need to ensure they know how to take care of themselves. They need to ensure their romantic relationship is actually going to be stable for something long-term before moving in with their partners.

There's way more of a problem with those who rush to move out, have previously lived a very comfortable and sheltered life, and were taught very few (if any) real life skills. They're absolutely inept in most regards, and I have had both friends and past roommates who were like this. They have no idea how to budget, cook, clean up after themselves, maintain their home, or handle snags when they come up. I seldom visit friends for this reason because I know a lot of them fall into this camp. Their apartments are absolute filth and there's always a fine layer of grime on every damn surface that gets used much. Funny thing is I have been ridiculed for and a "clean freak" by people because I will ensure I routinely wipe down countertops/doorknobs/touch-heavy surfaces, or wash my dishes after I use them, y'know the bare minimum. These sorts of people also often end up being the types who, as you've began to mention too, have children quickly in unstable relationships then end up pawning their children off to their parents to take care of them so they can go drink and "have a night out". Far too many young parents still have not figured out that once you have children you must actually sacrifice some things until your children grow up. One cannot pop a child out then a year later expect to go on a solo vacation or get sloshed every single Friday like they did before. I've noticed a lot of these same people who live solo before they're ready completely ignore their parents and family unless it's for Christmas or they need extra money because they overspent on online shopping/booze and forgot they have rent to pay.
 
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I was never taught how to think for myself, let alone act for myself in school until I turned 17. Sometimes, I cannot help but feel like I'm mentally behind, because of my mental development to which these adults have repressed.

I was basically set up to fail in my youth, which is all more the reason why I was so rebellious. If anything, I felt like the adults were trying to be the kids, and the kids were being forced to be adults.

So, is it any wonder why there are adults like me who feel like children? In some rare cases, some of these kids didn't even have a childhood. If anyone is at fault, its the adults who neglected their own responsibilities to overlook our development, and putting their own selfish agenda first.
I'm in the same boat as you. I got a late-diagnosis of asperger's/high functioning autism (now it's all grouped under ASD I know but whatever) at 21 after being absolutely emotionally tormented by my own self-criticism + other people's critiques on my behaviour my whole youth. I felt like every single thing I did was stupid/wrong and I compared myself to everyone around me to such a degree that I do not think I really got to enjoy large chunks of my childhood because I was too socially awkward and anxious due to constant bullying to make friends + as a teen I was masking and faking my interests so people would like me, only to go home and have a breakdown from the overstimulation/stress and fiddle with my hyperfixations and REAL enjoyable activities. I rebelled a lot as a youth as well. I did horribly in high school because due to how my brain works I did horrible in maths/science but excelled in art and my elective courses since they were things I enjoyed as hyperfixations. I remember being insulted by my teachers in the 10th grade because I was falling behind and I could not fight my own corner because I was under such stress + this overwhelming embarassment because I knew something was wrong with me that I could not put my thumb onto.

Now with my diagnosis in mind I have for the past 2 years been trying to rebuild the way I see myself and being less harsh on myself. It has been a journey and most days I am happy but I still struggle with that feeling of being still a child mentally which stresses me out. I have always had this nature about me as well, which is probably partially due to being an aspie, where I still have a childlike excitement about things and am highly emotional, which of course as a guy I have been insulted and joked about for. I often have this feeling of having time travelled from my early teens and I struggle with the feeling of the passage of time, because my mindset is in a perpetual early teen years often times, which I believe is because I was masking so much and neglected the ability to thrive because everyone assumed I should have been normal because on paper "nothing was different" with me compared to my peers.
 
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I completely agree with you here.
There isn't actually anything "wrong" with an adult living with their parents. It's very common in immigrant families and I've known a lot of people who do this well into their early 30's sometimes because of financial problems/breakups/losing their jobs/health problems or they're simply taking care of their parents and helping them out while advancing their lives and saving money. There's a myriad of reasons for this arrangement but they get ridiculed by everyone around them or get branded with the "guy who lives in his mother's basement" trope to crap on them. Many such cases because Western media paints a fraudulent expectation for every step of one's life and Americans have been addicted to the television since the 1950s. I actually would go as far to say that more people should be taking their time with moving out for the first time. They need to ensure they know how to take care of themselves. They need to ensure their romantic relationship is actually going to be stable for something long-term before moving in with their partners.

There's way more of a problem with those who rush to move out, have previously lived a very comfortable and sheltered life, and were taught very few (if any) real life skills. They're absolutely inept in most regards, and I have had both friends and past roommates who were like this. They have no idea how to budget, cook, clean up after themselves, maintain their home, or handle snags when they come up. I seldom visit friends for this reason because I know a lot of them fall into this camp. Their apartments are absolute filth and there's always a fine layer of grime on every damn surface that gets used much. Funny thing is I have been ridiculed for and a "clean freak" by people because I will ensure I routinely wipe down countertops/doorknobs/touch-heavy surfaces, or wash my dishes after I use them, y'know the bare minimum. These sorts of people also often end up being the types who, as you've began to mention too, have children quickly in unstable relationships then end up pawning their children off to their parents to take care of them so they can go drink and "have a night out". Far too many young parents still have not figured out that once you have children you must actually sacrifice some things until your children grow up. One cannot pop a child out then a year later expect to go on a solo vacation or get sloshed every single Friday like they did before. I've noticed a lot of these same people who live solo before they're ready completely ignore their parents and family unless it's for Christmas or they need extra money because they overspent on online shopping/booze and forgot they have rent to pay.
My parents are close to retiring, and have bought themselves a farm. Being able bodied, I decided to head cross country and move back in with them to help then around the farm, while making myself a living. So far it's going well, and being a survivor of CPTSD, I say there ought to be no shaming in having my own place on the farm.

I just can't help but feel annoyed when internet strangers try to shame me by telling me to "get a life", "man up", "

I got a life. Give me a break
 
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I got this Idea from Sadly, Porn, an obscure, recent book worth checking out.

At some point in time we forgot the true purpose of raising a child: To train your own replacement. The parent is seen as and sees himself as some sort of grand philantropist, "Look, I made you, out of love. Aren't I amazing? Aren't I generous. I allowed you to exist, you should be grateful." But that is simply not the case. That child of yours, the one you made, is going to replace you. He is going to be you! Not just after your death, but while you are still alive. Nestor may have been older than the others, but when the Greeks went to war against Troy he wasn't the leader, his time had passed. And it is your responsibility he does the job properly. Whether you like it or not, your kid is your replacement just as you are the replacement for your own parents. And their parents etc. Think of it as a job post, ideally or as it was like back in the day. The previous worker trains his replacement; He shows him around all the nooks and crannys, tells him about the ways to react to regular situations in that specific workplace not found in formal training, those only experience and trial and error there would otherwise teach.

So at some point parents stopped properly training their replacements, out of pride, wanting them to never grow up, to never surpass them. This is a tale as old as time, but it being the default is recent, it has been going on for several generations, probably since the boomers became parents. So the parents, the grandparents have the same problem as the children. We are all tapping in the dark. Manchildren. Feeling unprepared, naive, but feeling old and worn-out at the same time. The knowledge transfer has stalled; Wasn't that the essence of civilisation, what differenciates man from animal? It is our responsibility to get it restarted. That means acquiring this knowledge to pass on, the hard way, manually. That would make us pioneers of sorts, making it easy for us to be exceptional, quite the nice prospect, don't you think, in this world of seeming decline? This is what gets me excited about having children, if others are having them, then I need to secure my own place in the world, because I know others tend to be dumb and only them continuing to exist would be terrible. There need to be more based people, so I want to take matters into my own hands by making more (and I suggest you do to, you know how lonely it can get, that's why you're here.) Bloodline is what they used to call it. If you don't want all that which you stand for to fade away after you die it is either this or becoming long-term-famous, either through academic achievent, or by landing in the history books. Having children seems like the more reliable, more fruitful option.

But like I said, it is up to us now to do the dirty work, or else the cycle will repeat itself once more. I wish there was something like classic boy scouts for adults, to learn the stuff I, a comparative city slicker, missed out on. Sure, you can learn it on your own, (and I should!) but having it taught is far more efficient. Even then, it is enough to teach your kid what you learnt on your own, not as some act of generosity, but as part of your duty in training your replacement. To restore the bloodline, even if you have no known relatives you can respect. For one, if you look far enough into the past there is probably always at least one to be respected (maybe as far back as Grug the Neanderthal.) And if there isn't, once again, is that not an amazing prospect? To turn around a seemingly cursed Bloodline? To become the first good family member, the first cool "You" and pass that on? To lay the groundwork for future success? "But what if my child then cocks up and it is all back to the way it was, square one, all for nothing?" Well, then it is out of your hands, you know you did the best you could, but now you are Nestor, there are new heroes, time to kick back and watch. Cheer for them to reach hights far beyond yours, and ones your ancestors couldn't even dream of!
(Btw. for heavens sake, I do not measure success in terms of economic output, how often you got laid etc. that is another mistake made by many, to spoil the child with the material riches you destroyed your own life for.)
 
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I got this Idea from Sadly, Porn, an obscure, recent book worth checking out.

At some point in time we forgot the true purpose of raising a child: To train your own replacement. The parent is seen as and sees himself as some sort of grand philantropist, "Look, I made you, out of love. Aren't I amazing? Aren't I generous. I allowed you to exist, you should be grateful." But that is simply not the case. That child of yours, the one you made, is going to replace you. He is going to be you! Not just after your death, but while you are still alive. Nestor may have been older than the others, but when the Greeks went to war against Troy he wasn't the leader, his time had passed. And it is your responsibility he does the job properly. Whether you like it or not, your kid is your replacement just as you are the replacement for your own parents. And their parents etc. Think of it as a job post, ideally or as it was like back in the day. The previous worker trains his replacement; He shows him around all the nooks and crannys, tells him about the ways to react to regular situations in that specific workplace not found in formal training, those only experience and trial and error there would otherwise teach.

So at some point parents stopped properly training their replacements, out of pride, wanting them to never grow up, to never surpass them. This is a tale as old as time, but it being the default is recent, it has been going on for several generations, probably since the boomers became parents. So the parents, the grandparents have the same problem as the children. We are all tapping in the dark. Manchildren. Feeling unprepared, naive, but feeling old and worn-out at the same time. The knowledge transfer has stalled; Wasn't that the essence of civilisation, what differenciates man from animal? It is our responsibility to get it restarted. That means acquiring this knowledge to pass on, the hard way, manually. That would make us pioneers of sorts, making it easy for us to be exceptional, quite the nice prospect, don't you think, in this world of seeming decline? This is what gets me excited about having children, if others are having them, then I need to secure my own place in the world, because I know others tend to be dumb and only them continuing to exist would be terrible. There need to be more based people, so I want to take matters into my own hands by making more (and I suggest you do to, you know how lonely it can get, that's why you're here.) Bloodline is what they used to call it. If you don't want all that which you stand for to fade away after you die it is either this or becoming long-term-famous, either through academic achievent, or by landing in the history books. Having children seems like the more reliable, more fruitful option.

But like I said, it is up to us now to do the dirty work, or else the cycle will repeat itself once more. I wish there was something like classic boy scouts for adults, to learn the stuff I, a comparative city slicker, missed out on. Sure, you can learn it on your own, (and I should!) but having it taught is far more efficient. Even then, it is enough to teach your kid what you learnt on your own, not as some act of generosity, but as part of your duty in training your replacement. To restore the bloodline, even if you have no known relatives you can respect. For one, if you look far enough into the past there is probably always at least one to be respected (maybe as far back as Grug the Neanderthal.) And if there isn't, once again, is that not an amazing prospect? To turn around a seemingly cursed Bloodline? To become the first good family member, the first cool "You" and pass that on? To lay the groundwork for future success? "But what if my child then cocks up and it is all back to the way it was, square one, all for nothing?" Well, then it is out of your hands, you know you did the best you could, but now you are Nestor, there are new heroes, time to kick back and watch. Cheer for them to reach hights far beyond yours, and ones your ancestors couldn't even dream of!
(Btw. for heavens sake, I do not measure success in terms of economic output, how often you got laid etc. that is another mistake made by many, to spoil the child with the material riches you destroyed your own life for.)
A parent who becomes a parent just for the sake of being a parent is not a good parent at all. The truth is that much of the art of parenting has been lost in the modern era.
 
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To Be A Man: (A Thesis on the Sociological Discourse between Children and Adults)

Living in such a society as that of modern times, many people have often come to believe that the gap between the adult and the child is vast and expansive. But nothing could be farther from the truth.

What separates a man from a child isn't the sole age of an individual, but responsibility to own one's actions.

Benjamin Franklin himself once said in Poor Richard's Almanac, "How few there are who have the courage enough to own their own faults, or resolution enough to mend them! Men differ daily, about things which are subject to sense, is it likely then they should agree about things invisible?"

Truer words have never been spoken in regards to adulthood, as many works of fiction have pictured adulthood as the greatest of achievements, wherein one must undertake a rigorous and systematic rite of passage. These are often portrayed as losing one's virginity, their innocence, and gaining independence and strength through intellectual and physical empowerment.

These are all but a means to an end, an end, that is adulthood, that can never be achieved by these means.

One cannot measure one's maturity in strength of body, but also of strength of mind and spirit.

The gap between the child and the adult is no wider than a crack on the sidewalk, perhaps even thinner.

It is often known that the adult who refuses to mature and act their own age often suffers a symptom called, "Puer Aeternus". More commonly known as the Peter Pan syndrome.

Many people accuse the man-child of refusing to take responsibility to own their actions, and take action to improve their lifestyle. Such people often remain ignorant to that which has transpired in the victim's life.

The child who takes responsibility for his faults and desires to mend them has attained a higher understanding of adulthood than the adult who refuses to take responsibility for his actions and rather, blames his own kin, burdening them for a fault not their own.

It is maddening; the enormity of lengths people , let alone adults who children have looked up to, will go to cover up a petty fault, even if it costs the lives of others, including that of their own children.

If a parent be named a guardian, is it not proper and right that they ought to act as such?

Those who wish to become a parent for its own sake have already failed in being a parent and forsaken their role. For their children are not theirs to rule over, but theirs to guide, to pass on knowledge.

The greatest tragedy one can imagine is when the victim becomes the transgressor, and passes their own childhood trauma; their inner demons to the next generation.

The journey to transcend eternal adolescence in the face of adult neglect and maltreatment is seldom easy, as many of them have come to fear responsibility as a burden, as they were burdened with responsibilities not their own, but from the cowardly and the selfish. Fear not. Responsibility is not a burden, but an obstacle, much like a mountain, owning responsibility is owning the trail you climb. It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves.

If you tire, fear not, be attentive to yourself; as many great mentors have before. Seek truth from the lies of worldly men and find comfort from your suffering. It is not a weakness but a necessity.

Youth of the world, pay no mind nor manner to those who accuse you of being unmanly, for their tongues are poisoned with ignorance, and in their lack of knowledge fare no better than the hypocrite.

If we adults of the world refuse to treat children as people, it is likely they will never grow up to be people.

So let our generation bridge the gap that separates understanding between child and adult, and establish a trust between one another, for our children are not mere laborers, nor are they manservants, but they are our last hope to preserve that which we cherish in this world.
 
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