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Then you are a fool, however it will take a lot of effort to convince you of that. Firstly the most important question to ask in nutrition is when one dietary source is changed, what is its replacement? When people aren't eating saturated fat, what are they replacing it with? Eating is a zero sum game, eating one thing means we are not eating another. I'm sure you can already imagine, but usually the replacement for animal fat is other unhealthy foods such as refined sugar, which is linked directly to colon cancer - so too with alcohol.
Yeah, so you are literally retarded. How about instead of replacing shitty food with other shitty food, you just eat healthy? Dafuq? You overuse the word "usually" and act like the eating habits of most people are what YOU need to follow. "Errr sugar and alcohol are bad for you, I am very intelligent"
 

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I'm also not unwilling to see information that will change my mind.
Which is why I came in so hot with your blatant original shitpost.

This place, as I see it, is a means to discuss outside of echo chambers with people of differing opinions on everything but vapor wave.

To come in so obstinate that everyone is basing their opinions on websites I don't even go on is so astoundingly myopic that I truly didn't believe you were capable of acting in good faith.
I appreciate you responding, and effortposting. It's worth it if only for posterity, so we can circle back as more information inevitably comes out.
Differing opinions that all stem from the same garbage can. Anyone can spew an unfounded opinion based on youtube ecelebs and social media like 4chan, cloudfair is the freshest candidate for winning the "please stop talking" award. Everyone wants to speak, very few seem to want to have something worthwhile to say.
 
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May be a hot take - I don't like this soylent; I don't like these pre-delivered microwave meals either - but you know what's worse than both of them? Breakfast cereal.

I refuse to eat the stuff. It's animal feed-stock, marketed to humans.

At least your soylents, huels, and factors at least make a (basic and misguided) attempt to produce something good for the body. Even if it is using cost-cut ingredients, and ignoring the advanced sciences of nutrient matrices and their impact on digestion, they're at least taking the simple glasses approach of "Well let's go down the government-recommended list of RDIs and make sure our stuff lines up with it all".

The cost cutting on breakfast cereals is much worse than this. The cereals (hell even take a minute to think about the name, cereals - it's like what you'd see on a 40 page manual for cow feed) are literally just 100% whatever crop is physically cheapest to produce. Then it gets put through whatever mechanical processes (popping/puffing, rolling, sweetening, etc) is cheapest to do to make the food barely palatable.

It is slop in its purest form - nutrient flakes made from the literal cheapest mass-produced crap you can find (that will give you scurvy in the extreme and simple diabetes and heart disease in the milder cases), marketed with campaigns by the best and brightest minds on the television.

It attains the level of evil that soylent could only dream of.

(Same goes for your doritos, or any mechanically-harvested carb crop that's been pressed into your preferred shape)
 
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May be a hot take - I don't like this soylent; I don't like these pre-delivered microwave meals either - but you know what's worse than both of them? Breakfast cereal.
That is indeed a spicy meatball. Gotta admit that I love cheerios and life, but I'm under no illusion that they're particularly good for you. With that said I think the health effects of cereals are far more variable than you're letting on to. There's no way you can convince me that cheerios and trix are equally bad for you, unless you're one of these return to monke weirdos who thinks all grains are the devil's work or something. You can pry my bowl of life and whole milk from my cold, dead hands - bonus points if you put protein powder in the milk before adding it to the cereal.
 
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if you think they are meaningless you probably do not know anything about nutrition whatsoever.
I was being hyperbolic. Main point I wanted to illustrate is that foods can abide by some general nutritional standard on the label while still being terrible for you. Hell, there's even a lot of crafty shit that can be done with serving sizes to essentially omit ingredients/biproducts from the label because there's a small enough percentage of it per serving.

You're right though, I am not a nutrionist, or that versed in it. That's not why I made this thread though, to be honest. I made this thread to mock these garbage tv-dinner and slop delivery services for furthering an extremely depressing lifestyle.

Also, when i say frozen meals I mean like healthy beef and broccoli meals, not like pizza rolls or some shit.
Yeah, I follow now. Of course frozen isn't inherently bad.
 
I made the critical judgement error of eating 4 of those factor meals. They are mild to barely tasty in that you can taste how they optimized the salts and sugars and what not to conceal how much the flavor has degraded in the "food", but the part I dislike most is heating plastics in the microwave. Ah yes, plastic in my food this will work out well for me.

Chicken was dry, potatoes were too salty. The slop was not good and I should've just gone to chick-fil-a, not that I can't cook because I can. I just prefer to eat fruits and veggies because I am a lazy eater and would rather eat fruits primarily because they don't require cooking. Wash and eat, what more can you ask for? Maybe use a rice cooker as well and add some flavorings and seasonings and such.

Your average westerner eats too much already, most people could stand to skip a few meals and live off their surplus fat reserves.
It really is the TV dinners of yesteryear repackaged and rebranded as healthy and convenient.

Finally, I also don't eat any cereals. Processed junk like this with sugars and salts to hide the cardboard taste. Miss me with your scam. The more processed it is the more heavy metals it contains this is a fact.
 
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Ramen chadensis passing through

Though I think it's obvious why -- food preparation is time-consuming. Even I, someone barely know how to make fried rice and chicken, has to at least cook for 10s of minutes to prepare a bare-minimal SEA meal. Imagine anyone working 9-12 hours a day overtime, going home with nothing but exhaustion thinking about cooking? Most with the means will choose not to. And delivery services have made it easier and easier these days.

These TV-dinners with extra steps are just there to provide more "convienence" -- don't wanna wait even for the delivery service? There you go, 2-5 minutes in the microwave and done.

In my experience, mild stress at work will make everything either unappetizing or very appetizing. Either way you won't care what you are eating.
 
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There's been a big decrease in home-made food quality as both sexes are now in the workforce. People simply don't have time to be cooking for long.
An easy and comfortable solution like this is great for them. I'm not surprised people consume this. People love going for the simple and easy solution.
Would I ever consumer this? Hello no. I enjoy food too much to eat processed garbage like that I do enjoy cooking. Plus, it is far too expensive for what you get. You end up paying a big price for convenience.

But it is a general trend though. I see more and more supermarkets investing in their pre-made food sections. People simply don't want to spend time on cooking.
 

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I understand keeping a bag of tostitos pizza rolls or whatever for a long day, but there is something inherently dystopian about a subscription to this shit. It's taking this occasional laziness/exhaustion and transforming it into a complacent habit. One step away from just being a feeding tube, quite disturbing.
Especially considering the price of it, you work hard at your long job and come home tired and eat your slop that requires such an arduous job to afford in the first place... repeat.
Not to say I don't recognize that some people are working sweatshop hours and just need the calories with no effort, I get it - but I'd argue that's another issue that these slop plans profit off of specifically.

Consider buying a crockpot, or making larger portions when you do cook (so you have leftovers), consider buying stuff from the deli and making sandwiches, etc.
There are many ways to make food for yourself the lazy way, or to prepare food for lazy days.
 

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I'm in the "cooking is a week-end activity" camp and also have a perfect body (for real). My lazy fitcel top tip? Canned fish (sardines, mackerel, tuna). And cheese, but I'm French, so I have access to good cheese, not Kraft mystery goo.

Avoid sugar, limit salt, grain/potatoes and fat and favour butter over vegetable oil (olive is good though). But most importantly, limit quantities. It's healthy to eat when you're actually hungry and not just because it's time to do so.
 

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Consider buying a crockpot, or making larger portions when you do cook (so you have leftovers), consider buying stuff from the deli and making sandwiches, etc.
There are many ways to make food for yourself the lazy way, or to prepare food for lazy days.
Struggle week shopping list (for lunches at work):
  • 2 lb. (1 kg) of Genoa salami
  • 2 lb. (1 kg) of Provolone cheese
  • 5 bell peppers (orange, personal preference)
  • 1 bag of big carrots
  • 1 bag of Ambrosia apples
  • 1 loaf of Italian bread
  • 1 stick of butter
Total prep time is around 5 minutes. Cut the peppers, skin the carrots, and toast the bread (with butter). You can skin or cut the apples if you'd like but I prefer to eat them like an animal.
 
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Struggle week shopping list (for lunches at work):
  • 2 lb. (1 kg) of Genoa salami
  • 2 lb. (1 kg) of Provolone cheese
  • 5 bell peppers (orange, personal preference)
  • 1 bag of big carrots
  • 1 bag of Ambrosia apples
  • 1 loaf of Italian bread
  • 1 stick of butter
Total prep time is around 5 minutes. Cut the peppers, skin the carrots, and toast the bread (with butter). You can skin or cut the apples if you'd like but I prefer to eat them like an animal.
we got recipes thread btw!
 
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I'm in the "cooking is a week-end activity" camp and also have a perfect body (for real). My lazy fitcel top tip? Canned fish (sardines, mackerel, tuna). And cheese, but I'm French, so I have access to good cheese, not Kraft mystery goo.

Avoid sugar, limit salt, grain/potatoes and fat and favour butter over vegetable oil (olive is good though). But most importantly, limit quantities. It's healthy to eat when you're actually hungry and not just because it's time to do so.
Canned sardines only cost like $2 per can where I am (i dont want to argue about prices) and have 21g of protein per can according to the nutrition label from where I buy. They're good with almost anything, from ravioli to rice to salads to stew. Whenever I'm lazy and just want to whip a quick lunch I boil some ravioli and put sardines at the end after that's done. Pretty good meal, although I have to be cautious about the ravioli. Top-tier for me for price and protein intake.

Anyways, what I would've said about OP has already been said, and I'm seeing some pretty good meals, so I'll post a quick dinner I make often:

1 lb (0.45 kg in commie units) of ground beef (or ground pork, works well too)
1 carrot
1/2 a stem of broccoli (really it depends on how much broccoli you want to consume)
1/4 of a sweet or white onion
3-4 cloves of garlic
1 egg
olive oil

cut up the onions and garlic cloves first. After covering the flat bottom of your pan with an adequate amount of olive oil, add in the garlic and onions and set the stove to cook it lightly. Cut up the carrots and broccoli next, but don't add them in yet.

marinate and mix up the ground beef however you want, (i like mine spicy) and then add the ground beef into the pan, and set to medium. What I like to do is flatten the meat like a pancake until one side cooks, flip the meat to the uncooked side, and then just stir around like normally. When the meat is brown add in the carrot and broccoli and let them cook for a while, i'd say 3-4 minutes.

Then, create a hole in the middle of the pan where there's nothing but olive oil covering it, then put in your egg. let it cook for a bit then flip it. For maximum tastiness try not to break the yolk yet and just let the egg cook and cover it with the beef/carrots/broccoli. Then let it simmer for a bit and you can break the yolk and stir it again.

I don't have any pictures but it should take around 30-40 minutes if you're decently quick and i find it tasty and healthy, and not too expensive. cheers :^)
 
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Just get a box of eggs, some butter and some bread, and have some fried eggs on toast or something man. What they're selling is overpriced rubbish, but the conclusion that most westerners don't care about their health or diet has been something people know for ages.

Your wallet will thank you, your health will thank you too. That said, what they are providing is a service for people who don't have the time or energy after work to cook a good meal. If it's between them eating one of those meals or a McDonalds... those meals are probably healthier.

You generally see this across the board. As soon as someone starts eating healthy, and eating non-McDonalds, everyone comes out of the woodwork to tell them that their variation of healthier is bad for them. It's still better than McDonalds.
Huel. This one is a great image since it's next to what literally looks like vomit.
Look up Beef Stroganoff. Looks close enough...
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But if you eat purely on appearances, you must love Dragonfruit(tasteless mush)! As something that looks like some weird alien egg, but isn't too bad in taste(basically hard boiled egg) is Balut. A chicken egg that's already been fertilised for a couple of weeks. Looks awful... not that bad though
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Look up Beef Stroganoff. Looks close enough...
I disagree, that looks a lot tastier lol.

Also I do love dragonfruit because it tastes good :):):):):)

Just get a box of eggs,
This is so true. Scrambled eggs and omelettes take minutes max, and is a lot of nutrition from one thing. A (weird, maybe) dish I make often for breakfast is scrambled eggs mixed with some pasta (often leftover), seasoned however. Super easy and very filling.
Hell, if you want it to be as easy as possible, just buy an electric egg boiler - they're like 20 bucks. I use one to make breakfast sandwiches!