Does the Sigma Male exist?

[ECHETLAEUS]

In packs of wild animals the hierarchy is something that exists for the survival of everyone, the alpha arsenic prevails over the other animals of the pack and usually gets the best female for his best reproduction, eats a better bite from their preys and he has priority because he guides the others. Also in wolfs we can observe the existence of lone wolf who doesnt follow and he doesnt need a pack to survive. His size is way bigger than an average wolf and way stronger with better will and endurance. In our society we follow rules and obey to superior people who is our boss, our goverment or even our father . To keep the equillibrium and the order we follow the hierarchy pyramid and depending on our position in the society and the goods we can provide, the people we can direct and our mindset, we are classified accordingly. The hierarchy is:

Personally i believe that as humans we are multidimensional and we didnt born as alpha or beta or whatever, i mean that you choose your league and with your mindset your psychology your habits and your work to yourself you determine your value, not only your job determines you. There are many factors that judge you. For example you can be broke asf but you are calm and zen and you do your best to get out of the shithole, you are beta or even omega in your job league but in your mindset you are alpha by not choosing negative and victim mentality. You can be rich and you manage a company( that means alpha in the job hierarchy but the way you manage your staff makes you the worst beta). You may be sigma male in the mindset you have right opinions you respect others, you respect your body, you dont gossip you are focused on yourself but when anger comes, you lose the shit out of you and be beta in managing issues. You may be beta and be irrelevant with the women but you can provide and make a family .All i want to say is that nobody is perfect and we all have ups and downs. This example also apllies with women. Noone is 100% sigma or alpha you can be 60% alpha because of your leading spirit but you are also 30% beta because you obey your father and you compromise with him because you are fearing him and 10% gamma because you feel depressed when you are alone. This is my opinion of course, im waiting to read about yours, Do you believe that sigma appears, whatas your opinion about this subject?

 

[CognacDefender]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4663AXDakRg

Sigma males do exist. They're called losers.

 

[SomaSpice]

They exist, I know one called CognacDefender.

 

[CognacDefender]

They exist, I know one called CognacDefender.

Someez nuts.

 

[brainlvst_b0xcutter]

Sigma male is just incel cope fuel. Sure, you can convince yourself that you are objectively better than everyone else, but at the end of the day you're still just someone who spends way too much time on the internet.
I guess having a motivated mindset is good, but that doesn't make you a higher class of person. It's essentially just a rehashing of virtue ethics imo.

 

[MoxxyWasHere]

First off wolf packs and a alpha wolf is just a fairytale. I see that everyone's a sigma male/alpha in their own department. Everyone's dominant in some way, shape, or form and if that may be you are an alpha in sports, reading, video games, etc. I don't really see an alpha/sigma male as some stereotypical jock who is pretty much good at everything and gets all the chicks because he's deep in the closet. It is a mere concept at this point used by people to show agreeance to a opinion.

 

[ECHETLAEUS]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4663AXDakRg

Sigma males do exist. They're called losers.

Being a loser is something temporary and losing is a part of the process in order to win

 

[ECHETLAEUS]

Sigma male is just incel cope fuel. Sure, you can convince yourself that you are objectively better than everyone else, but at the end of the day you're still just someone who spends way too much time on the internet.
I guess having a motivated mindset is good, but that doesn't make you a higher class of person. It's essentially just a rehashing of virtue ethics imo.

Having a motivating a supporting and a virtuous mindset doesnt makes you a better and superior person than anyone but it helps you to make better and more correct decisions and THAT makes you a better person and gives you a better life.

 

[ECHETLAEUS]

First off wolf packs and a alpha wolf is just a fairytale. I see that everyone's a sigma male/alpha in their own department. Everyone's dominant in some way, shape, or form and if that may be you are an alpha in sports, reading, video games, etc. I don't really see an alpha/sigma male as some stereotypical jock who is pretty much good at everything and gets all the chicks because he's deep in the closet. It is a mere concept at this point used by people to show agreeance to a opinion.

No, alpha wolfs and pack arent a fairytale, wolf packs are extended families and of course someone has the leadership. Of course Alpha/Sigma arent a part of a joke they exist and as humans we are unequal concerning skills, intelligence, wisdom, strength, will, goals, opportunities etc. I will totally agree with you by saying that everybody shines with his/her own way and there will be people better, stronger and wiser than you, its not bad because we all have our uniqueness and some people are in "godmode" in this life, why? because they can.

 

[MoxxyWasHere]

No, alpha wolfs and pack arent a fairytale, wolf packs are extended families and of course someone has the leadership. Of course Alpha/Sigma arent a part of a joke they exist and as humans we are unequal concerning skills, intelligence, wisdom, strength, will, goals, opportunities etc. I will totally agree with you by saying that everybody shines with his/her own way and there will be people better, stronger and wiser than you, its not bad because we all have our uniqueness and some people are in "godmode" in this life, why? because they can.

Yeah you pretty much worded everything I said better lol. I am like half illiterate. Also that's what I meant by that wolf packs are a fairytale because most people imagine wolf packs as just random wolves working together and don't realize it's just the wolf family so that's my bad for wording it wrong and not elaborating.

 

[SomaSpice]

that's what I meant by that wolf packs are a fairytale because most people imagine wolf packs as just random wolves working together and don't realize it's just the wolf family

Wdym dude, wolves are well known for their contracting work and corporate culture. Wolf "families" is just a buzzword term used by their HR departments.

 

[Jessica3cho雪血⊜青意]

No, alpha wolfs and pack arent a fairytale, wolf packs are extended families and of course someone has the leadership.

Well, it depends on what you mean by 'alpha' and 'packs are extended families' in this case, I suppose. As what is typically an 'alpha' in a wolf pack is simply the wolf who breeds the most pups, thus making the 'pack' a single family comprised of that wolf's pups. If there were to be another male who also has a significant number of pups in the pack, that could be considered an 'extended family' of wolves, but it is not the most common thing and those wolves who are secondary breeders are typically considered the 'subordinate breeder' while the other is considered the 'dominant breeder'. Even then, any wolf who sires pups for the family is typically just called a 'breeder wolf' anyways.

 

[ECHETLAEUS]

From my point of view, sigma is an intelligent strong and virtuous person who learned his true abilities after being bullied in school, after the half of his childhood was taught stupid, toxic, shallow and mediocre thing from mediocre people , he learnt from the harsh truths that hurted him and haunted him for years, he lived in loneliness for years, he was marginalized and many people betrayed him, they were making fun of him and teached him the hypocrisy of the society. At his early adult life after a lot of hours of overthinking everything he lived turned out to be useful and that everything that happened back then make sense. This trauma made him powerful and he can survive the worst after he accepted his past and changed page , he can ignore the toxic ones and he works on his body, mind and soul. He makes rules and plans his mindset, he face his old fears and some demons of the past come back to test him, he passes and become better and better person every day, he becomes more muscular every 6 months (ignore gigachad meme) and finally he meets all of them who did him wrong years before but, in his soul theres nothing but peace and love he doesnt fear or hate anyone and he doesnt need anyone to be happy because he pursued and achieved happiness he doesnt gossip or criticize, only for reasons for improvement he respects everyone and he is focused only to himself for me thats the sigma, a strong, stoic and virtuous man with bright future and real purposes in life.

 

[ECHETLAEUS]

Well, it depends on what you mean by 'alpha' and 'packs are extended families' in this case, I suppose. As what is typically an 'alpha' in a wolf pack is simply the wolf who breeds the most pups, thus making the 'pack' a single family comprised of that wolf's pups. If there were to be another male who also has a significant number of pups in the pack, that could be considered an 'extended family' of wolves, but it is not the most common thing and those wolves who are secondary breeders are typically considered the 'subordinate breeder' while the other is considered the 'dominant breeder'. Even then, any wolf who sires pups for the family is typically just called a 'breeder wolf' anyways.

A wolf pack is an exceedingly complex social unit—an extended family of parents, offspring, siblings, aunts, uncles, and sometimes dispersers from other packs. If you see also in a big human family (usually in balkan) theres also an antagonist who want to control or he always disagrees with the alpha or the ones who they have the upper hand and that brings agitation in the family. I believe something like that is with wolfs, if there are more males than one and there are capable and strong to survive then why not to stand against the alpha and thats how the lone wolf comes from, either failed to exercise control over the herd and left voluntarily or was expelled by alpha and with the years the loner became stronger by trying to syrvive alone.

 

[Jessica3cho雪血⊜青意]

A wolf pack is an exceedingly complex social unit—an extended family of parents, offspring, siblings, aunts, uncles, and sometimes dispersers from other packs. If you see also in a big human family (usually in balkan) theres also an antagonist who want to control or he always disagrees with the alpha or the ones who they have the upper hand and that brings agitation in the family. I believe something like that is with wolfs, if there are more males than one and there are capable and strong to survive then why not to stand against the alpha and thats how the lone wolf comes from, either failed to exercise control over the herd and left voluntarily or was expelled by alpha and with the years the loner became stronger by trying to syrvive alone.

Well, you can think that's how it works all you like, but that is not how wolves have ever been observed to work. What many call 'Lone wolves' are actually known as 'Dispersers' and typically they are young, healthy male wolves, sired by the breeder wolf. They leave their pack not to be alone, but to start a pack of their own. Their purpose is to find a new pack with a healthy young female wolf they can mingle genetics with to start a new, stronger pack of their own with. The only 'antagonism' one might witness is a male from the new pack challenging the Disperser in order to make sure that they are not alone because of some genetic degenerative disease or something like that.

 

[Lonely_Ghost]

Yeah man, all that wolfpack shit is dumb. We're not wolves so we don't form communities like they do, leave that shit to the furbags and yiffers.
You're you, just you and only you. All that alpha or sigma male garbage can go eat shit.

 

[boywifefailure]

please for the love of god leave alpha/beta/omega/sigma or whatever tf shit to furries and tumblr. that shit is not real, the concept of a sigma male only became popular as cope for dudes who don't want to admit they have social anxiety.

also i feel like if you're claiming you're a sigma or an alpha that just automatically means you aren't one. might just be me

 

[ECHETLAEUS]

Yeah man, all that wolfpack shit is dumb. We're not wolves so we don't form communities like they do, leave that shit to the furbags and yiffers.
You're you, just you and only you. All that alpha or sigma male garbage can go eat shit.

Nah man either a pack or a society without hierarchy is anarchy, you just arent accept the unequality. Who says that wolfs or every animals with their shouting or mewing or barking, doesnt communicate eachother, a pack is a little wolf community in order to survive, and dont stuck only to wolfs, also hyenas, tigers, lions, elephants, zebras,bulls and cows, chicken, if you put more than two cocks in the same hencoop youll see the "peace". We dont form communities like them because we have logic, consciousness and we dont operate with our primal insticts but if you see it deeper in order to survive look how we behave towards the chicken the cows the sheeps etc in order to take meat or dairy products i dont say that it is good or bad i dont know but because we dont slaughter each other doesnt mean we dont behave as animals towards the animals and also we have same factors as the animals, we have males, females, competition and rivalry and the ongoing needs . Alpha/Sigma and all the categories in the hierarchy pyramid exists because we arent everyone the strongest or the wisest, this is hard to accept but in life you need both weak and strong, good and bad , wise and stupid thats how the balance remains.

 

[punishedgnome]

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Well I'll be damned. Out of these I am closest to sigma male. Looks like I owe Nagolbud an apology.

The chart doesn't mention any of this though:

You may be sigma male in the mindset you have right opinions you respect others, you respect your body, you dont gossip you are focused on yourself but when anger comes, you lose the shit out of you and be beta in managing issues.

And I definitely like to talk shit and make fun of people's shit. When you just break it down to "Doesn't give a fuck about the social hierarchy and does well with women" though, that's basically me. I am a guy who generally just does whatever the fuck I want, doesn't care about the rules of polite society and has banged a bunch of women.

 

[Jessica3cho雪血⊜青意]

We dont form communities like them because we have logic, consciousness and we dont operate with our primal insticts

Your grammar and sentence structure are informing me elsewise.