Florida bill to ban anyone under 16 from Social Media. What do you think?

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In Florida the house has passed a bill to restrict social media for minors under 16. It still needs approval by the Senate but, if fully passed it could allow the state's government to start banning apps. Do you guys agree with the bill. If so what should be banned? How would you even try and ban these apps anyway?
 
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Makes me happy. :)

Seriously, this will barely if ever actually get enforced.
It's a start. But you could say that nothing ever gets done quickly the US unless if it lines people's pockets, so I think it could take years before this is even somewhat enforced properly, if at all.
 
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In Florida the house has passed a bill to restrict social media for minors under 16. It still needs approval by the Senate but, if fully passed it could allow the state's government to start banning apps. Do you guys agree with the bill. If so what should be banned? How would you even try and ban these apps anyway?
Yo! I'm Floridian.... so here's what I think.

While I'm generally against banning things I do see a point as to why the House in FL wants to restrict minors under 16 from accessing social media. Now, as all of us are Agorans, I don't want to get into why social media is bad (it's been stated here over and over again) but the impact it does have on kids is quite impacting, ranging from the stuff with the tics to general brain rot and the downfall of my generatio's (and later generations') attention spans. But, I actually doubt the effectiveness of banning social media, especially considering how wide and pervasive the Internet is these days. Teenagers already can get their hands on alcohol vapes and weed here pretty easily, banning social media will at worst probably only make things more inconveniant for teens, although the ban won't necessarily stop them, especially when they could easily fake their age online. So yeah, what Venomnik0 said.

I think it's just another case of out-of-touch old politicians wanting to ban things whilst not understanding the consequences or the effectiveness of the "ban". At least their heart is kind of in the right place this time though, unlike the dreaded RESTRICT Act.
 
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In Florida the house has passed a bill to restrict social media for minors under 16. It still needs approval by the Senate but, if fully passed it could allow the state's government to start banning apps. Do you guys agree with the bill. If so what should be banned? How would you even try and ban these apps anyway?
It will be as enforced as the gun laws in kentucky, technically the law dictates that you should be owning a gun, is mandatory, but not enforced.

From a personal standpoint, there appears to be a certain irony in the claims of conservatives advocating for individual freedom, especially when observing the implementation of restrictive laws in states like Texas and Florida. While the intention behind safeguarding children from the potential harms of early exposure to social media is understandable, the comparison to the British cigarette ban highlights the fundamental role of individual responsibility, particularly that of parents.

It is noteworthy that most social media platforms establish a minimum age requirement, typically ranging from 13 to 14 years. However, this stipulation is frequently disregarded. Reflecting on my own experience, I created a YouTube account at the age of 10 during a time when the internet was considered less secure. This illustrates that the effectiveness of this bill in altering the existing landscape may be limited, if not entirely negligible. The responsibility for regulating access to social media ultimately lies with individuals and, more significantly, with parents, emphasizing the need for a comprehensive and holistic approach to address the complexities surrounding online interactions.

Or that's how i see it, tbh i wish the rest of america was more like the southwest (except California), that way even i would be an american nationalist, like i could get shitfaced drunk in a buffet with hookers and a monster truck in Miami or Savannah as much as i could do it in Vegas or Reno. :tou3:
 
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I'm also a Floridian and I think this is retarded. This sort of thing should fall on the parents, not the government. This is mainly an empty gesture they can't really enforce though.
From a personal standpoint, there appears to be a certain irony in the claims of conservatives advocating for individual freedom, especially when observing the implementation of restrictive laws in states like Texas and Florida.
Nailed it perfectly.

if fully passed it could allow the state's government to start banning apps. [...] How would you even try and ban these apps anyway?
How so? It'd probably end up like Montana banning TikTok, which was ultimately blocked by a federal judge if I recall.
 
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Just sounds like another completely average day in Florida

I sure am glad I don't live there and have no plans on ever going there
 
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I, and others, think the law is less about protecting minors and more about finding a way to force people to tie their identities to online accounts without saying they have to directly. If the law stays which I highly doubt, it gives government and law enforcement agencies a way to identify and find more vocal dissenters or anyone else they don't like.

Though personally I highly doubt the social media platforms will verify identities reliably considering many platforms don't even do so for data requests from police: https://www.404media.co/verizon-gave-phone-data-to-stalker-edrs-search-warrant-pose-as-cop/
If anything I'm sure many people will just submit fake IDs with AI generated faces.
 
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Fucked up thing is you don't even need to pose as a cop, just listen to some Phone Losers of America or read his book and you'll see how gullible employees are. Even outside of companies directly selling your information your data is never secure.

Didn't think about the ID aspect for social media though, that's a scary thought since both political parties seem to be moving towards that goal for seemingly different reasons.
 
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Banning stuff just makes it seem cooler, kids are gonna feel sneaky and go out of their way to try and get on social media. Which is kinda insane, how could something as gay as "secretly logging onto twitter" become the new "secretly smoking cigarettes with your friends". That is of course only if the ban is successful in the slightest, which it won't be. Reform does not last, especially if it goes against the progress of the system. Social media is wonderful for technological society so it will not be leaving any time soon.
 
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I hate brainrot as much as the next guy but I'd rather not introduce a system that gives companies and excuse to get my ID. How the hell would they enforce this otherwise?

Besides wouldn't this make the issue of child exploitation on the internet significantly worse? All of a sudden kids/teens on social media will feel the need to hide their social media usage (more than usual, you get what I mean); wouldn't this cause some distrust in authority when something bad happens online since they "weren't supposed to be on there" in the first place? Sounds like a dangerous environment to build.

This sort of thing should fall on the parents,
I agree completely. I don't understand why so many modern bills being presented is people wanting the government to parent their children for them.
 

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overall i would say that this bill is a total mess, but one section stood out that actually looked reasonable
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Oh wow that's entirely reasonable, in fact I wish they'd enforce something like that regardless of age. Almost like those labels all over cigarette packages now haha.

Although I don't know if it'd really be effective, they'd probably just structure in a way thats really easy to skip and ignore lol.
 

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Oh wow that's entirely reasonable, in fact I wish they'd enforce something like that regardless of age. Almost like those labels all over cigarette packages now haha.

Although I don't know if it'd really be effective, they'd probably just structure in a way thats really easy to skip and ignore lol.
the way that companies like this wriggle out of regulation with dark patterns is fucking disgusting and i'm genuinely shocked that nobody has expressly done anything about it yet.
 
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My only opinion on the subject is that any website that makes me submit my credit card or driver's license to access it is a website I'm not going on.
Win-win: you don't waste your time on social media and your privacy is respected
 
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