G.A.T.E. - MKULTRA IS ALIVE AND KICKING

Machine · Sep 21, 2022

I'm OP (lost my old account). I'm going to pour some more research, then remake/revamp this thread a bit

Jenn · Feb 19, 2023

I too fit most of these except the drugs, forehead scar and multiple near death. I remember the covered windows and one partially remember one particular riddle for some reason that involved a lion and a set of draws.

I remember enjoying the program but little else. The woman who taught it was Ms. Hall who lived near to me and ran a store with her son.

Some_porcupine · May 28, 2023

Maybe they tried to connect giftbess with global source consciousness XD, or find out why you all were special, by extra-physical/Cartesian physics means ...
Like theory, all those happenings might also be "radio" test if you all GATEs could get "wired*/connected lol. Imagine that...

4d1 · Jun 13, 2023

Unit K-17 said:
I think I match up with much more of this list than I feel comfortable sharing.

i may be 2 years to late to this thread but holy shite i feel like i've been found:
- hazel eyes
- not sure about the Occipital Bun but certainly was very good at maths, had to be taken to another class in Year 5 for it because "i was beyond my teacher" (building an ego in me)
- born early + dry tear duct with nasal issues
- not really sure about NDE, afaik i havent nearly died at any point
- lack of memory of GATE - check: i couldn't tell you much besides a tutenkamun project and reading the hobbit
- windows were usually covered in the upstairs area where the staff used to also be at, and we had this tiny room with a table
- tendency to being followed maybe? depends on who, i don't really think i felt this one. but i had always been a paranoid kid and always would be meta-aware of my own actions and people around me.

Other similarities
- Interest in /x/ phenomena - check. always deep thinking, meta thinking, etc. possibly due to being into space/sci fi from early on. i "discovered" free will on my own thinking around the same time as this, but didnt have the vocabulary to say what i had realised on my own until years later where i heard about the concept and thought "holy shit, i found that out all by myself"
- not a drug user (yet, i guess lol)
- not any forehead scares afaik
- no speech therapy, but always had a bit of a lisp (+ i was bilingual due to parents from different countries, so maybe that? always qualified for English as an Additional Language/EAL, which i now realise was more for school funding)
- First born son - check
- Migraines? sometimes?
- no israeli art student girlfriend, but am going to art school so maybe this prophecy will be true haha
- not sure what meme magic is
- Premonitions/prophetic dreams - check. i get regular deja vu to the point it freaks me out when a dream from months ago predicts a sequence of events and they unfold exactly as in the dream - including a conversation and people's words in response to my own
- Above average intuition - i overthink a lot and am usually right in how situations between people/things will unfold, and have been right about my own friend group collapses months in advance

for the record though, this was in the uk not the us, but was always under the same name of "gifted and talented" education/classes.

we used to do english exercises mainly, as you are saying, high-level essay work. i remember often times there would be gifts/rewards for doing well like books of your choice that you could keep from the library. however, i know that my school stopped doing it not long after i left (maybe due to lack of funding for it? or maybe the experiment ended haha)

nonetheless, i dont know how well a list of seemily generic descriptions that could probably be applied to most chronically online dudes and schools can be a hypothesis, but it certainly feels creepy to think i was used for some experiment in school under the guise of being smart. it does feel weird how they don't do things like that anymore. it could just be lack of funding as i said, or that now there is a more "woke agenda" for celebrating participation over being more advanced than the general populace. all i know is that it has meant i don't know how to study because i was accustommed to "just understanding it straight away", and has made me an egotistic person for thinking i am above others; although, maybe that was their plan. to get me riled up like that so i could easily succumb to the woke agenda and be a sjw. who knows.

Some_porcupine · Jun 13, 2023

Unit K-17 said:
A few similarities about us became apparent as the threads naturally evolved;
- Blue eyes (hazel seems equally common) - YES
- Occipital Bun (aka math bump on the back of skull) - YES, but no math. more like, languages, spatial orientation
- Birth Complications (like weeks early or not breathing) - YES, like 1.5 month before due, under-dev lungs, kidneys, idk cord around neck
- Near Death Experiences (particularly drowning) - mom says YES that i told her about "angels", i got no clue (was some of my 11 or so operations)
- lack of memory of GATE - (we all did many many hours there, and it's very vague) - NO, not being in that. more, ive been to specialists about my lack of communication skills (weak immunity, allegies, was 1st grde home-educated (that kidney, immunosupresives...))
- windows were covered - BLINDS, in that specialists offices. but it was nothing, just talk, no movies but games... "normal" social "skills" (none) kid...
- tendency to being followed (abductions and general tracking too) - NO? albeit, being paranoid (those lacks of skills and being afraid of everything and everyone)
Other similarities, less common but still a few exGATErs agree on these too;
- Interest in /x/ phenomena - i like UFOs, mandella effect, NDEs and such, - so could be
- Heavy early twenties drug period - i got immunosupresives, does that count XDDD?
- Forehead scares - NO, maybe almost
- Early speech therapy - YES, logopedy (r, l, ŕ, ĺ, ľ, š, č, ď,...)
- First born sons - YES (older sister)
- Migraines - NO that i remember, or rarely
- Israeli art student girlfriends (not even joking) - NO
- Meme Magic - once cursed world with covid XD, (idk what MeMa is)
- Premonitions/prophetic dreams - ONCE in blue moon
- Above average intuition - YES - also empathy as fuck - disables me

edit: "- Early speech therapy - not that I remember. I'm told I always could speak super clearly, and that it was almost creepy when I was a toddler." - only talking like that from sleep, but talking lot of eshes' when normally (weird; om recalls)

SandHanitizer · Jun 17, 2024

I am writing this after only reading the first page so apologies for missing context on subsequent pages. But yeah let me list how I have matched the template bc this freaks me out:

- Blue eyes - check
- Occipital Bun - just now learning what that is but yeah check, also always been good at math
- Birth Complications - C-sectioned, and had to be put on steroids until I was 5 due to breathing issues
- Near Death Experiences - no drowning, but I got stung by a red velvet ant when I was under 2 years old. for those who are unaware, that's the 2nd most painful insect sting known to man, and I would develop a deadly allergy to several stinging insects at 17.
- lack of memory of GATE - I barely remember it, but it was in 2001-04 (1st-3rd grade for me - have a super clear memory of 9/11 at that school) and after that I went to a private school then a magnet high school.
- windows were covered - It was in a trailer classroom with no windows at all as I remember
- tendency to being followed - don't remember this
- Interest in /x/ phenomena - Absolutely, always been fascinated
- Heavy early twenties drug period - Did a shit ton of psychedelics from 18-20. Still love weed, and I'm a high functioning alcoholic (drink anywhere from 3-6 servings most nights, I know it's bad for me but it's hard to stop). runs in the family I suppose.
- Forehead scares - nope. had a head injury at 19 though.
- Early speech therapy - not that I remember. I'm told I always could speak super clearly, and that it was almost creepy when I was a toddler.
- First born sons - yeah, I have an older sister and no other siblings.
- Migraines - yeah, especially when the weather changes.
- Israeli art student girlfriends - nah. I trust my gf and I'm definitely telling her abt this thread later bc It's got me fucked up. Not israeli or an art student.
- Meme Magic - don't know about that.
- Premonitions/prophetic dreams - Saw my current gf in a dream when I was in 8th grade, she looks identical to the girl in that dream. Also, I've never been as happy as I am with her. Never had any other prophetic dreams. otherwise, I generally trust my gut in sketchy situations and have been known to dip before weird shit pops off at the function.
- Above average intuition - idk how to quantify that, but I'm a PhD student in a hard science and music has always come easily to me, but my dad's an organist/mom's a flutist and both grandfathers were chemists. so kinda hereditary

Also others have mentioned having run-ins with the law but no criminal record. Yeah, idk how I don't have 2 DUIs from specific traffic stops. I guess I wrote it off as me being polite enough to pass, but I reeked of weed one time and alcohol another.

Anyway, come to think of it I do remember very vaguely during my time at that elementary school having to take strange tests alone in a room with just one staff memeber that wasn't my teacher. I remember being late as hell on my assignments and it never affecting my grades. I remember a lot of the class time in that trailer not being structured, and I remember staring at animorph book cover art a lot, and the teacher asking me what I thought about it. I remember not making friends with anyone in there, just kids from church/my neighborhood/other classes at school.

This thread is really fucking with my head bc I never really think much about my time in the gifted program.

EDIT: I did have a rough relationship in my early-mid 20's, but not to an israeli art student. I said more about it than I'd like to in a prior edit so I'll say as a final edit that the woman did make me feel insane, but I don't think she's related to any of this stuff.

Unlicensed Wizard · Jul 19, 2024

- Occipital Bun (aka math bump on the back of skull)
- Birth Complications (like weeks early or not breathing)
- windows were covered
- Interest in /x/ phenomena
- Heavy early twenties drug period
- Migraines
- Above average intuition

i also wonder, how many were diagnosed with autism later in life? i have a feeling that must be common. many were extremely early readers, and there's a connection between hyperlexia and aspergers/level 1 ASD

my GATE experience was fairly common but also short lived. blacked out windows, excessive hearing tests, flashcard shit, making me draw with my non-dominant hand, etc. i think i got booted out of the program and they would just send me to the library instead after 2 weeks or so. i guess no ESP here :binTot:

Hypatia · Jul 21, 2024

I was in the gifted and talented program as a kid and I remember every year of this nonsense. First, I was actually put into special education because of my behavior, but my mom wanted me OUT of special ed, so she got me to take an IQ test which whisked me into gifted in 3rd grade. It was quite the whiplash, going from special education to gifted.

3rd grade: It was the classic windowless room, but it was like a closet offset from the library, I didn't actually do much because my education up until that point was literally garbage, I just remember being dragged there and interacting with this super smart kids
4th grade: now the program had officially started, they wanted me to write about China, something about China. They gave me books upon books about China. Every day was China this or China that. I couldn't write for shit so it all bounced off me like rubber.
5th grade: They started to phase me out of the program when they realized they were never getting a Chinese essay out of me, the behavioral issues only continued to mount. They still dragged me in like once a month, the students were still talking about China.
6th grade: This is the only gifted year I have absolutely no memory of. I have a feeling now looking back the school internally was having problems, many teachers leaving and a lot of turnover. In like 3 years the elementary school closed.
7th grade: Middle school gifted was a different beast. I was no longer randomly dragged into this room, no, not this was a dedicated 2 periods of my day. And again, windowless rooms. They wanted me to write papers about various topics related to infringed minorities: Africans, South Americans, Native Americans, ect and their struggles. I responded by making essays about the biblical meanings of various numbers and the patterns I saw in the bible. (I am not joking here) The whole experience was awful for me and I wanted to crawl out of there every day.
8th grade: more of the same from the last year. The rest of the 8th graders were on the upper floor, so I was being dragged down to the 7th grade floor for this nonsense again. This time I had to write about Plessy vs Ferguson and Dreg Scott.
9th grade: the gifted program merged with the general honors English program now. I was awful in English and begged the English teacher to please release me from this program. In hindsight he was a good guy, but at this point I was just burned out from dealing with gifted english classes at an honors level when my passion was mathematics.

After I escaped the gifted program they tentacles of the special education system once again tried to wrap around me and I had to take classes for the Wilson Reading Program with a bunch of literal retards who when the teacher left the room would start talking about smoking meth.

I truly believe that anyone who isn't a normative kid is put into the special education (meth smoking retard) track or the gifted (you are either going to work for the state department or become an emotionally traumatized autist working for target) track. You need to spend every fiber of your young will to roll out of this mental programming to be an individual.

WhiteWins · Aug 5, 2024

Holy Shit, first time I've cursed in months.

I was in a class called A.S.P.I.R.E. in Kansas City during 2007, 2008 and 2009 when I was five, six and seven. We were a select few (around 10-15 each year) who got to attend. I had a friend named Dietrich Bruton, I only remember his name so well because he did weird things with a cat later on. Anyway, I don't remember any of the assessments we did, they were never quizzical tests. Always different thought provoking studies, sometimes ape-like; meanwhile, someone was always monitoring in the corner with a clipboard which I assumed was some sort of TA. I never thought much about it because, to me, it just seemed like an okay-ish afternoon activity, from what I can remember.

The following applies to me currently:
- Hazel eyes
- Occipital Bun (Noticed it when I read about it somewhere)
- Birth Complications (like weeks early)
- Near Death Experiences (particularly, shoved in my grandmas pool, passing out from shock, wake up on couch around 4yo.)
- lack of memory of A.S.P.I.R.E. - (we all did many many hours there, and it's very vague)
- windows were covered (only a door)
- tendency to being followed (I checked my car for RF transmitters and went to the lake winnebago police and asked for help)
Other similarities, less common but still a few exGATErs agree on these too;
- Interest in /x/ phenomena
- Heavy early twenties drug period
- Forehead scares
- Early speech therapy
- First born sons
- Migraines (got my first migraine when I was seven while walking home from a friends house)
- Meme Magic
- Premonitions/prophetic dreams
- Above average intuition and psychology

"Is this about me" - Nothing ever came out of it, just thought the describing characteristics and personal attributes were eerily similar.

FBI Agent · Sep 20, 2024

Blue eyes: Yes, I have blue eyes and so does my best friend, he was in this program with me.
Occipital Bun: Yeah, didn't know what the occipital bun was before this post but i looked into it and I do have one
birth Complications: Nothing was wrong with me per say, but I caused my mom to have extremely high blood pressure and a doctor was worried.
- Near Death Experiences: I've busted my head open before, almost did it a second time, knocked a pole (using a 4wheeler) by accident and the building should have collapsed on me, it didn't.
- lack of memory of GATE: Yeah, all i remember is the darkened room, the teacher (she was cool), we played a bunch of games and made our own, and we did conventions where we dressed up as historical figures and gave presentations of their life. We also saw science conventions from previous years, I don't remember ever seeing who did them (i never got to do science conventions) but thats about all i remember.

OH! And at one time I was dating a girl who was in my GT class (in about 4th grade), it was discouraged.

- windows were covered: Yup
- tendency to being followed: No but I have times where I feel like i'm being watched and times where an unreasonable and large fear will come over me that something horrible is near, like even just yesterday I locked my bathroom door because i had a unreasonable fear that something was in my bedroom. This is strange because I'm usually very into facing my fears but whatever.
Other similarities, less common but still a few exGATErs agree on these too;
- Interest in /x/ phenomena: Yeah, always had an interest in the weirder and conspiracy stuff
- Heavy early twenties drug period: No, but as of late I've had some strange desire to try them.
- Forehead scares: Nope
- Early speech therapy: Nope
- First born sons: Yep, first and only born son, I have an older sister and would have had a younger sibling but my mom miscarried (we didn't know the gender)
- Migraines: Not often but I'll have intense headaches that come and go quickly
- Israeli art student girlfriends (not even joking): No, but in my art class freshman year I had a friend who was Jewish, he killed himself with a shotgun and I remember the suicide was oddly suspicious, however any suspicions we kids had were swept under the rug by police and forgotten about.
- Meme Magic: Idk what this is but if Urban Dictionary is right then I do kind of apply to this.
- Premonitions/prophetic dreams: Not really, but when I was younger I had weird dreams (and still do). For example, in one I was in a linear hallway with vents in the floors where one would jump in and end up somewhere else in the hallway, my sister was in the dream too, somehow she disappeared. More recent ones include dreams of reality falling apart (i can go more in depth if anyone wants me to)
- Above average intuition: Yeah, it feels like my gut is rarely, if ever wrong.

I took the test in 1st grade, didn't fail whatever criteria it was but was not put in GT/GATE, the school made me take it again in 3rd grade and i was put in the next year easily. It is kind of weird how much this applies to me and seemingly others. My GT/GATE teacher had moved up to be the 9th grade English Teacher when I was in 10th grade, I was friends with her daughter.

Someone mentioned the ideas of leaders being chosen, while I don't believe it and i hate the idea of too much power, I have always had an interest in politics, history, science, and leadership stuff.

When I was younger I didn't care about religion but became Christian around 7th grade and am still Christian, so IF these programs were (according to a reply here) anti religious in some form, I wasn't affected too much.

Been having increasingly worse internet as I tried to read this post and reply, but my internet is bad anyway so it's probably nothing.

Edit: And the hearing test, we had them until about 7th grade? I don't remember if they were school wide or not though.

JulienYvon · Oct 2, 2024

I am not from america(Turkish so sorry for bad english) but i went through a remotely similar thing called TUESDAY. The review process was weird as fuck. They shut me in a room with a lot of cards and a woman who was annoyed / worried who was my test instructor. I was tasked with finding patterns. Room had no windows and a very low frequency. According to my mother she told an old friend of hers i was able to read at a very young age(3) and speak very early(1 and a half) so this "friend" told a "recruiter for high intelligence youth" and they convinced my mother to take this course. Only minimal amount of light was allowed in the class rooms and weirdo math teacher. Other than this i dont remember much.

Ninetails · Apr 21, 2025

So I don't remember being in a gifted program in elementary school, but throughout my entire life I've been a "gifted student." I would actually go up several reading levels in elementary school, but I don't recall being put into a program for it. I actually wanted to go to a magnet school when I graduated from elementary school. Unfortunately, my mother was severely mentally ill and I was repeatedly put in classes that were too easy for me, and I was even put in special education for "behavioral issues." Somewhere in middle to high school I was eventually put in gifted classes.

That being said, some of this is... very specific, especially about the early speech therapy (which I had only remembered through a dream, and my parents confirming that it had happened.) So I'll fill this out and see what I get.

- Blue eyes: Yes.
- Occipital Bun (aka math bump on the back of skull): Apparently so.
- Birth Complications (like weeks early or not breathing): Somewhat...
- Near Death Experiences (particularly drowning): No.
- lack of memory of GATE - *shrug*
- windows were covered: Again, *shrug* I probably wouldn't be able to remember something like this, I don't think.
- tendency to being followed (abductions and general tracking too): Unfortunately, I can't prove this.
Other similarities, less common but still a few exGATErs agree on these too;
- Interest in /x/ phenomena: Only recently? I guess if this means lifelong obsession with the supernatual, then no.
- Heavy early twenties drug period: Weed and later psychedelics.
- Forehead scares: Forehead scares? Is this supposed to be scars? No.
- Early speech therapy: Yes.
- First born sons: I'm not a son, so no.
- Migraines: Closer to general headaches, although this is probably better explained by other conditions.
- Israeli art student girlfriends (not even joking): No, the closest I would have to this would be that a lot of my exes + former crushes were Jewish. I did have an ex who was obsessed with Israel.
- Meme Magic: Yes.
- Premonitions/prophetic dreams: Yes.
- Above average intuition: Yes.

This all being said, my memory is particularly fuzzy right now, so I wouldn't really remember anything as mundane as being tested in a dark room. In my mind, I feel like something strange happened in the past that I could be mistaking for something similar to this.

Hypatia said:
I truly believe that anyone who isn't a normative kid is put into the special education (meth smoking retard) track or the gifted (you are either going to work for the state department or become an emotionally traumatized autist working for target) track. You need to spend every fiber of your young will to roll out of this mental programming to be an individual.

This somewhat resonates with me.

angertard · Apr 22, 2025

Not a gatechad for some reason I can't remember, but I find it interesting that so many talk about very dark classrooms. Combined with the talk about surviving medical issues with possible neurological effects, it reminds me of how Jason Padgett acquired savant syndrome. He was just resting in the dark after a taking some heavy blows to the head, and there was a faucet dripping in the background. He rested for days, so he began to pick up on mathematical patterns in the dripping. They say the typical neuroplasticity line like how pure luck let the math-thingy parts of his brain work on more stuff because of how his brain re-routed stuff when he was healing. So basically he got an intuitive grasp of some math that he could apply just about anywhere that he saw the sort of math pattern he'd grown used to. Not useful, but you can imagine how it borders on a kind of genius. But wouldn't your brain have already healed from the injuries or whatever? Idk, maybe the odds of a truly strange outcome are better the more neurologically impactful stuff you've survived without succumbing to mental retardation?

It would be cool if there were gifted program guides designed to increase the chances of rare geniuses arising, but if anything I'd guess that they're trying to mitigate the risk of spontaneous genius. That or some kind of shockwave rider thinktank wisdom of the crowds type of conspiracy, with a lot of people used as controls as opposed to experiments. You don't exactly give kids the training described in these posts if you want them to become geniuses. It feels more like it is defusing a strange context (circadian daytime but dark, learning context/mindset) where a subject exposed to more minimal intellectual stimuli might otherwise heal in a way that lets their brain generalize in a more robustly strange way.

Sweet n' Comfy said:
What's up with that Israeli Art Student Girlfriend stuff? Who would even think about having such a relationship in the first place?

Probably inspired by reports of supposed "Israeli art students" (some girls!!!) being involved in espionage in the USA, seemingly related to 9/11

The Israeli "art student" mystery

For almost two years, hundreds of young Israelis falsely claiming to be art students haunted federal offices -- in particular, the DEA. No one knows why -- and no one seems to want to find out.

www.salon.com

There is no other sexy reason that I can think of
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Some_porcupine · Apr 22, 2025

angertard said:
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makes me think of chaos;head but if we can "minsd things into reality" without physically making it, as some ezo say "every&thing is energy, vibration", then it would still be interesting

also kinda agree with "messiah" who will arise people thru soft power, for some uprising above "top class" into class war...

LiraTirsoCaduceo · Apr 22, 2025

angertard said:
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wavve-creator · Apr 22, 2025

I briefly remember GATE from when I was a child. Hm this is creeping me out. I was also obcessed with being a spy when I was a kid and actively tried to apply for the CIA at 10 years of age. I was also part of a gifted program when I was younger but I don't remember too many details other than a lot of being outside and learning biology.

omnidisplay · Apr 22, 2025

Thread bump reminded me to post here.
I think childhood memories always have a veneer of mysticism and strangeness around them (at least I hope that's a common case and I'm not alone in that feeling). In any case, best to be cautious when attributing those blurry old memories to evil CIA mind tricks. My rational mind wants to assume it's just like, prospective grooming - in not a conspiratorial way, just, let's try and get as much out of the smart kids as possible type deal. I'd like to see the statistics/anecdotes on the burnout levels for these people, and what lead to it.

Also no offense to like half of the posts here, but I feel like a lot of the comments here (and on the old thread) are people LARPing as being some falloff child prodigy Beyond The Black Rainbow experiment. When in reality they were an above-average-but-still-in-normal-ranges kid that stopped caring about school when they got older.

Personally though;

According to my parents;

However, I have memories of being pulled out of the classroom (with a group of about 6-7 other kids) to a different room. Blinds over the windows, small area with a table we'd sit around, next to a large chalkboard that we'd all work on. I only have a few hazy memories of the place, less distinct events and more just a general knowledge of the room. It was the same room they used for those headphone beep tests though, which may be of note.

Blue eyes with a light green ring around my iris.
Hair is too long to tell, I think at least a slight one though.
Born with heart problems that naturally resolved after a few weeks.
Closest parallel is maybe that I had pneumonia when I was little? Severe but I don't think it was a "near death" thing. That or my parents did a good job keeping my child spirits up and not telling me. I took swimming lessons when I was very young so I don't think drowning was a particular risk.
Read above. I remember the room and solving equations on a chalkboard, no specifics.
Yes, read above.
No. Take your meds.
Yes now and when I was young. One thing of note is that I was *extremely* interested in ESP in grade 3-5. I have no idea where the interest came from (or why my elementary school library had so many books on the phenomenon). But I would read extensively about it. I had that phase, like totally believed in it all, thoroughly until I was 14 (no joke).
Currently in my early 20s, no and not planned.
No scars. Nor "scares" lol
I remember being taken into a room where they did speech therapy, shown that stupid poster where they wanted me to name the objects. (stuff like raindrops, which I'm assuming they wanted to see if I'd fuck up and say waindwop or something, idk). I spoke perfectly fine and they dismissed me.
Halfway? My mom remarried.
Not to a degree outside normalcy.
No, lmao.
wtf does that even mean.
Yes, but extremely minor shit. I'd have dreams about conversations I'd have a week or so later. Those dreams stopped occuring when I was around 16, but I still have very vivid dreams.
I'll humble myself and say mildly above average.

knowyouareloved · Apr 22, 2025

I remember in elementary school, I think starting in third or fourth grade, some students would be taken away from my class once a week for a few hours. Sometimes it was just one particular girl (she almost always went), sometimes it was a handful. I heard they were taken to some room in the building across the street that had the kindergarten and preschool. I mentally tracked which kids in my class went, and by the time I finished elementary, I realized everyone had gone at least once except for me. I think the woman who took them was either one of the preschool teachers or the gym teacher, because I remember thinking that she didn't seem like she'd be qualified to teach older elementary kids. I never heard specifics of what exactly they did. The kids who went didn't really talk about it.

Were they participants in GATE? Nope - the woman was a tutor who did remedial work with the kids who needed it. Before you say it was a cover and I'm just jealous that the glowies didn't think I was gifted enough to take along, I will say that which kids in my class went and how often lined up very well with how much they seemed to be struggling in class. The checklist in the OP has a lot of irrelevant things that many people will match. It has a few out there things that few people will match, where if you don't match it won't dissuade you but if you do fit you will be deeply convinced. And it has a "free space" - seriously, a conspiracy theory that says an interest in conspiracy theories is a sign you were affected? Asking if you remember the room being dark helps make the experience seem retroactively suspicious - every school is gonna have some crappy rooms, and you're gonna save the crappy rooms for purposes like tutoring or extra classes that require only occasional use. Did shady stuff happen to a nonzero number of people? Possibly. Did mundane stuff happen to most of the people remembering this? Probably. I don't mean to accuse others in this thread of lying, but I wanted to offer a skeptical opinion.

Some_porcupine · Apr 23, 2025

omnidisplay said:
Also no offense to like half of the posts here, but I feel like a lot of the comments here (and on the old thread) are people LARPing as being some falloff child prodigy Beyond The Black Rainbow experiment. When in reality they were an above-average-but-still-in-normal-ranges kid that stopped caring about school when they got older.

i stopped only after it wasnt worth it (people were scared) and then it was too late and test 9 came. funny times. (jk, wasnt)

sparrow_n9ne · May 29, 2025

Someone said I should post this here

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000300330001-8.pdf

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