Graffiti and Artistic Vandalism

[BLOCKLIT GUNTOTER]

Glows.

You're right. Art should be destructive as possible

 

[Ross_Я]

By the way, thanks to @№56 for reminding me. Here's one music video which I like very much, and which, I think, is quite appropriate for the thread.

 

[wavve-creator]

i like art, not so much the disruption of the systems that keep things moving. literally

graffiti is at its core a disruption of a system. Assisting your visual cortex with the signatures of faceless men. Faceless men who will delay the train networks. Faceless men who will stop the stock market and erotically bring the system to its knees.

"There's nothing brave and nothing uselful.
You scrawling you aggro shit on the walls of the cubicle."

 

[pig_bing08]

You're right. Art should be destructive as possible

graffiti is at its core a disruption of a system. Assisting your visual cortex with the signatures of faceless men. Faceless men who will delay the train networks. Faceless men who will stop the stock market and erotically bring the system to its knees.

"There's nothing brave and nothing uselful.
You scrawling you aggro shit on the walls of the cubicle."

i highly disagree with this sentiment, but i understand where it is coming from. art is disruption for sure. but disruption can turn into straight up disrespect and i'm truly not about that. disruption is just something i do not like as there's already too much entropy to begin with. i believe art takes tact. there's are sayings in fashion that "more is more" but that you should always look in the mirror and edit your look. take off an element or two. is it really necessary to wear this piece to make a statement? no. is it really necessary to disrupt in the name of art? no. but you CAN disrupt in the name of art. that's up the the artist. not the critic. but this critic thinks it lacks taste. especially when all it takes is a bit of time and tape. but again, that's the nature of this form of art. and i dislike that aspect of it since i like when things exist in unison. this "disruption" sounds more like a power trip than art.

edit: i do also believe that art is in everything and that a power trip can be beautiful, but that's more of a personal journey thing. like good for you. bad for me. and it ok. i just don't like it.

 

[wavve-creator]

"I <3 Hot Moms." It's just like the internet!

In that its as anon as this post board, yes.

straight up disrespect and i'm truly not about that

Then why reply with the disrespect mf, jk <3

is it really necessary to wear this piece to make a statement? no. is it really necessary to disrupt in the name of art?

no. but you CAN disrupt in the name of art. that's up the the artist.

especially when all it takes is a bit of time and tape. but again, that's the nature of this form of art.

It doesn't always need to be part of the ego, it can be an expression of our times.

Or a mockery of the past

These cultural graffti's (in this form a paste) are far more disruptive and honestly my favorite kind as they are a commentary from the artists to the street.

Art for Art's sake is also nice to see.

As a former tagger myself, I did find it exciting to see where I could tag my shit but at the same time.

Tags arent always just a single person as well. They can be a community thing, where many artists are doing the same tag.
Buskar is one in Centex

Toeflop is a good example of tagging gone wrong. He/she throws up tags all over the south, but to a point that is pretty annoying, like tagging over murals.

Tho I have to admit anyone who can do a tag on a bridge like this deserves a little bit of clout.

I did eventually get sick of the tagging thing, I would describe it now as:

A gang war between insecure personalities that cannot create something, only say "I wuz here"!

edit: i do also believe that art is in everything and that a power trip can be beautiful, but that's more of a personal journey thing. like good for you. bad for me. and it ok. i just don't like it.

Learn to set them boundaries. Sometimes that means clean walls, clean feet, telling mfs to stop tagging your gay ass name everywhere.

 

[pig_bing08]

 

[Some_porcupine]

a/the classic

 

[Obake]

I fucking hate graffiti. You're not an artist, you're a piece of shit that disrespects other peoples property and your "art" is an eyesore. A while back some tourist went around one of my favorite parts of Tokyo spray painting "free palestine" everywhere. Do that shit in your own country.

 

[Andy Kaufman]

but what I saw on a walk:

 

[Antice]

Some weirdo just retagged this perfectly well tag.

 

[Jodo_Fan]

Cybertruck tagging.

 

[Vitnira]

I grew up in a rural-ish area next to a train track segment where trains would stop often to wait for a bridge, and the track was next to my bedroom window (I have problems hearing and this is probably why but that's unrelated to this topic) so I saw a ton of tags on the cars.

I never liked any of them.

Some were big and balloony, but it was clear to me it was all, as earlier stated, masturbatory. A ton of "I was here". It just seemed sad to me. Pathetic. And it was never that beautiful. There was never anything that really looked like "art". More than likely I was looking at everyone's practice area, because that's all it looked to me. Scribbles. Spray paint scribbles. And there's something about the typography itself that screams "I am stupid" - I mostly saw the tags on trains and not so much in an urban area, so it's not even that it has a "bad part of town" association in my mind. It just looks like an art style trash-of-varying-color would make. It looks destructive, idiotic, and ugly (generally).

My friends growing up were generally some skin color of trash (white, black, hispanic) and the trashier they were, the more likely they were to want to carve their name into things. I never wanted to. Now that I'm older, it seems apparent that deep down trash culture people know they'll never do anything of merit - graffiti is the only way to leave their mark on the world, even if it's ugly. I'd rather leave nothing than make the world a worse place and I'd bet that non-trash perspective is what helped get me out of there.


Because I'm in a WASPier area the arts district commissioned murals to go on all the walls and some of them are "street art" style - and actually, I love them! If it wouldn't dox me I'd love to post one - it has classic cartoon characters melting with their eyes 'pulling' out of their sockets, or teeth falling out. It's violent and beautiful. And what elevates it to me, is there is a WASPy furniture store right across from the mural that is PISSED about the mural's existence. It's ugly, drives away business, blah blah, and I love the fuck you americana of the mural-having-business going "it's my property and i paid for it". Which shows to me you can be offensive and aesthetic.

So I guess it gets into, the art style has value if it's treated like art, but it's shit if it's done by shit humans who feel the compulsion to leave ugly marks on reality.

 

[internet_userr1]

there are spots on my commute that are landmarked by graffiti. a politically driven sticker on a sign.

I do love the idea of trying to spread some sort of political message across with art and vandalism- but my question is if it even does anything.

I mean I've seen all these 13-17yr old kids give tutorials on TikTok on how to "cover/disguise" yourself, writing "deny defend depose" on watts of cash and more tuts on how to wear makeup that will not run through face identification systems, like they're in some sort of Hunger Games dystopian movie because of Trump entering office. (Which I don't necessarily disagree on,) but seriously, just plastering a post it note with the words "deny defend depose" in the wall of your school bathroom isn't enough. They make some huge political statement like they're the next Luigi Mangione as if he did the same shit as them but he didn't. He didn't write anything on walls, or do graffiti (as far we know of... but this only proves my point about the insignificance of graffiti. Luigi Mangione may have participated in vandalism for all I know, but it clearly made no impact. What made the headlines was his actual crime, a crime that was large and gained attention from everyone.) The guy actually made an impact, he actually did something. But does graffiti actually make an impact if nobody takes the next step and actually DOES something that contributes to the issues we are facing in the world? Seems like a cheap way to prove to someone that you're into anarchy and are an "anti capitalist!"

I don't know. I don't hate graffiti- I think it is a very beautiful and unique form of art- I just don't see the point sometimes. Why waste resources, spray paint and an entire wall/public building?? Why not actually get up and do something about your "political statement"?

post graffiti or other forms of artistic vandalism here. your stuff or anything you see in public.

As for any type of graffiti I stumbled upon/seen, there is quite a bit- but I wanna talk about this one because it is the first place I have ever come across that was just caked wall to wall with graffiti.

I live in a pretty bushy area, and when I first moved around here in 2019, I was immediately drawn to the foliage. I never really got a chance to properly explore, because my parents are Asian and pretty strict (they never to barely let me go anywhere that isn't the local mall)—however, recently, I made a discovery. (This discovery occurred at around September 16th 2024, though this is just a guesstimate.)

On the way home from school, I sometimes have to take a bus because my parents are too busy with work. On this bus ride, there was a particular bridge near the mall that really caught my eye because of all the graffiti. It was such a cool finding, especially considering that it was so close to the mall, which was the only reason I was able to even go there in the first place. About a 10- minute walk from the mall, and bam, you're there. And luckily, my parents haven't gotten to the stage of jamming trackers on me or some shit like that, so yeah. The first time I walked under that bridge, I was equipped with two things. A $3 pizza box and bubble tea—but I'd to say that I've come a long way from then. It is very beautiful. Lot's of graffiti everywhere, all over the walls, and there was also an empty spray paint can and a lighter on the floor. I like to hang out there when I'm bored or need alone time since it's shielded off by this wired fence (which I had to move to get in) so nobody really comes around that area.

I sadly have no images of the place, but I have this.

It looks really similar to the bridge I go to, plus graffiti and minus the water


EDIT: By the way, the OP just sounds AI generated. Idk if this is how u type or something but it sounds robotic (atleast parts of it do).

 

[pig_bing08]

below is a picture of a tag i've seen for a while. sorry for the glare, i wasn't prepared to take the picture.
i love this one. it's huge. and the lines are so thick. i've always wondered how this "zwon*" tagged this building. and with what type of paint? did they use a brush? a spray can? it looks like a titan used a giant spray can.

 

[pig_bing08]

EDIT: By the way, the OP just sounds AI generated. Idk if this is how u type or something but it sounds robotic (atleast parts of it do).

wtf

 

[dug]

Was at this restroom and thought... wait there's a graffiti thread. I like the fact that they're embracing the delinquent propensity to tag a bathroom.

Spitz in Little Tokyo.

 

[jojo]

wtf

better use the latest chatGPT model so they don't figure you out next time

 

[pig_bing08]

better use the latest chatGPT model so they don't figure you out next time

highkey chatGPT stole my whole flow. my old username was o2mini and then those freaks launched o3-mini.

 

[Some_porcupine]

 

[Alaska Palms]

I primarily just dislike tagging, but really like seeing big and detailed pieces like wild style or stenciled pieces. For as memey as Banksky is now, those are the types of pieces I'd prefer to see when I'm out.