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How does one convert the normie?

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I can't say I have ever been fully successful in this regard. I think most people know social media is bad on some level but simply don't have the willpower to take action. In fact I've noticed one of the major negative effects of this is that a lot of young people today want to make a living off of the internet. Something I would not recommend for anyone. Instead I believe in working on the small scale. Simply find as many people as possible in the real world to connect with. Make a deal out of not using social media. Once enough of these people are assembled start moving into certain areas and create a sort of separate society.
 
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Quite frankly mate, this question is about on a par with "how can I get my little brother to never try coffee in any capacity, ever?".

You'll have trouble getting people who aren't extremely personally opposed to this kind of drivel to put it down, because it's an actual drug, that's societally condoned. It's the exact same reason that I still drink coffee even though it mostly just makes me jittery - there are other ways to wake up in the morning, sure, but none of them are quite as easy as coffee.
Agreed. It is the dopamine habit that's in play here. It's like with any addiction. Denial ("It's totally normal to stop and film your friend if his hair is on fire before calling 911 - doesn't everyone do this?", "I don't need TikTok. I can put it down any time I want to."). Optimism bias ("Never had my identity stolen before ergo it will never happen.") And herd instinct, as others have pointed out. Dopamine is key, though. Doesn't matter if 80% of their "likes" come from 'bots. It makes them feel good.
 
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The implied fact is that the normie would be better off knowing about the real internet, but the inverse is true. They are better off in their walled garden. Also, they'd probably go back to being in the mall, or some other nonsense.
 
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In the old days, it felt like the internet had better means to engender radical changes or Manchurian awakenings in its users. Reading the internet then, there was a constant threatening presence just out of view which promised to expose to you a world you knew must be real but still refused to believe in. A website like Rotten.com, for instance, could leave an unforgettable mark on not only its readers, but those irradiated by its indirect influence. Like taking a wrong turn walking home as a child, the terror or the threat of terror not only helped you to better understand not just what you ought to be doing, but the context for why that is to begin with. I did not want to look at shock sites as a kid, but I knew that they existed, and this made me cynical and suspicious of everything else around me. I don't know if pure cynicism is healthy, but I must believe that it is the first step to any healthy relationship with media at large.

As others have said, today's internet is a walled garden, but the inside of the garden is much worse than the outside. "Trustworthy" websites like Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc, in all likelihood host far more child pornography, murder, torture, and rape than any underground network in history, and far more openly to boot. To the users of these websites, however, this is utterly inconsequential. The website provides a service which they enjoy, and any unsightly or prurient or wrong content must simply be there by accident rather than by design. Besides, they aren't the ones looking at that sort of thing, so what do they have to fear? Of course, this ignores the surface level problems of these websites--the open usury, the dehumanization, the commodification of disgust--which lay every brick and charter every law. These too must be some accident, or else a necessary and unavoidable reality to partake in such lovely services. Surely. So they trot along in lazy circles, chasing nothing while running to nowhere, content as ever that they have such a beautiful garden to enjoy while the canker poisons the roses and pisses in their bedclothes.

The best model for the world, I think, is the carnival. Everything in the carnival is designed, ultimately, to rob you. The games are rigged, the rides are dangerous, and the panthers only ever run circuits in their cages. Most people do not care about this, because the carnival is fun, even if only (literally and figuratively) at their expense. They give their money voluntarily so they can experience the pleasure of being used.
 

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