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I don't even get the joke here
I feel like this is basically what alt-right meant prior to like 2018 or so. Incels were the nerdy/neck beard/white knight "good guy" types while alt-right were seen more as *ahem* threatening to public safety. At least in my world.Yes we almost need a term for normal guys who just happen to be incels and then another one for this wierd cult you described.
An Executive Summary
September 29th, 2022
Agora Road "Where is the Vaporwave" Research Institute
Section 1: Implied Contextual Relations
1. Incels like to "max" out their physique or behaviorisms for sex
2. You are here to give advice to a (presumed) incel
3. Your qualification is being married and having kids
4. To be married with children, it is highly probable you have had sex
5. One can presume your advice will be to have sex
6. The solution you are likely to propose is "sexmaxxing" i.e. having sex but layered as a "maxxing" technique
Section 2: Analysis of Context
The joke can best be categorized as ironic. This is because the proposed solution (sexmaxxing) is not achievable by incels.
They will get married, sure, and then get cucked 24/7 because the woman is only using the man for his financial stability. Even if they don't, they have to deal with the fact that this woman is only using them to "settle down" and they have to live with knowledge of her bodycount pre-marriage. It's called betabux and believe it or not, most incels don't like the prospect of ending up like that.You're coming at this from the perspective of someone who enjoys casual sex whereas most of the guy's you're describing want intimacy. There's a huge difference in how you approach women depending on which of those you want. No woman is going to bang an ugly dude for just one night but ugly men get married to women all the time. How does this happen? Because the guy in that situation is strong in some way. Strong personality, emotionally dependable, monetarily stable etc. With the exception of the money bit in some extreme scenarios all of those aspects about you are things you can improve upon and they are just as good if not better than finding a life-long wife. It's not cope to say "work on your confidence" because in a lot of situations it's true. I used to be bottom of the food chain mega shy and awkward until I decided that I was sick of it so I started caring less about what other people thought of me and gradually grew into the person I am today. It can be done and just because you're ugly doesn't mean that it's impossible to find someone. It might be borderline impossible to have casual sex but I've never really seen the appeal (even less so now that I'm married, like I just don't get how that seems fun or fulfilling to anyone) and I'm guessing most incels who get lucky enough to get the seggs for one night would probably come to realize that they want intimacy, not sex
Because at that point there were gender norms and expectations that society generally agreed upon. Don't get me wrong - they were extremely restrictive norms that undoubtedly had negative impacts on many people, especially women, but they provided structure and guidelines that many people desperately need. Are you a guy who grew up without a father? While that certainly will present setbacks in your life, cultural socialization could still provide you with the idea of what it means to be a good man who will ultimately be capable of success.You didn't really have any of this just 40 years ago.
It is more of an issue than it used to be, but I find a lot of people have a tendency to cherry pick the most dire studies to make it seem more widespread than it actually is. I see people try to argue that literally 90% of men in their 20s do not have sex. I think a lot of people look at those cherry picked stats and kind of psych themselves out and one sure way to fail at any social endeavor is to overthink it.It seems to me that some of you Twitter-addled morons seem to equivalate the term incel with terminally online /pol/ losers that do things like shitmaxxing, read garbage like the incel wiki all the time, post misogynistic comments online, complain about their heights and looks, and talk about shooting places up.
I take the term to face value: to me it means men who are involuntarily celibate. There are normal people out there who simply cannot get someone to romantically invest in them and are suffering from debilitating, suicide-inducing loneliness because of this. And it's usually because of a simple personal shortcoming they have such as being shy and unable to make a first move, not because they're the stereotypical schizoid and autistic 4chan user that can only talk about how shitty women are.
I think I recently became a laughing stock in the >reddit thread because some of you people thought I was actually talking about the stereotypical incel boogeymen you have built up in your minds, and also associated me with it. No, I was talking about lonely men. A significant portion of the male population suffering from this widespread societal issue.
There's someone in one of the other communities I'm part of who is so fucking guilty about literally everything that they do nothing at all. Just sit in house and desperately try to be the most moral (cause they internalize all the "this bad!" "oh also this bad!" shit modern society does). Absolutely horrifying.Today, even people with loving families often don't turn out alright because people are so lost in terms of how to integrate into society. Parents literally do not know how to raise their children to fit into the modern world, even in cases where they truly want to, because it is nothing like the world they grew up in. There's a whole lot of "X behavior is bad!" and very little "This is how you should behave if you want to succeed in life" - especially so for young men.
So what happens? People recede into screen life and have minimal amounts of meaningful social interactions, only deepening their sense of being lost or adrift in the world they find themselves in.
Yeah that kinda sounds like me when I was a lot younger. I hope this person is relatively young as there is a chance they can grow out of this. But the internet really rewarded negative content. I distinctly remember the ranting community of old youtube and how it set the standard for many of the issues we see today. Habits such as deboonking had its' origin in this group of people. The ranting community has not turned out well. Its' members largely went nowhere in life and are now poor and hopeless. They were a big part of my personal wake up call. This is unfortunately how many zoomers will turn out.There's someone in one of the other communities I'm part of who is so fucking guilty about literally everything that they do nothing at all. Just sit in house and desperately try to be the most moral (cause they internalize all the "this bad!" "oh also this bad!" shit modern society does). Absolutely horrifying.
Crap website. It's designed to sell the image of the alpha male to young men and make them promiscuous. None of the actual underlying problems are dealt with. It's simply designed to fix the virginity issue and nothing else.This one here's a comprehensive step-by-step guide on how to get bitches: https://killyourinnerloser.com/tinder-guide-2/
Haven't tried it myself (don't think I ever will), but I think there's good advice in there with very detailed steps telling you exactly what to do instead of "jUst g3t /fit/ and taLk 2 gURlz bruh!"
Have to agree. Gaming Tinder so you can have one night stands is never gonna fix intimacy issues lmaoCrap website. It's designed to sell the image of the alpha male to young men and make them promiscuous. None of the actual underlying problems are dealt with. It's simply designed to fix the virginity issue and nothing else.
If you read it, it proposes blatantly exploitative methods such as targeting of bisexual women (a demographic known to be higher in mental health issues), promotes threesomes, as well as BDSM. It's more boomer nonsense.Have to agree. Gaming Tinder so you can have one night stands is never gonna fix intimacy issues lmao
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