Internet dies a little more - META announce plans to launch bot user profiles

[RisingThumb]

"Meta to get rid of factcheckers and recommend more political content"

This line from the article seems interesting

In a video message, Zuckerberg vowed to prioritise free speech after the return of Donald Trump to the White House and said that, starting in the US, he would "get rid of factcheckers and replace them with community notes similar to X".

Are community notes any good on Twitter? From what little twitter I use, they don't seem that bad.

Zuckerberg said Meta's "factcheckers have just been too politically biased and have destroyed more trust than they've created".

This line I also think is interesting. They're paying attention to how much people trust in social media... I wonder how they're measuring it or proxying for trust.

He said that removing some restrictions on content on topics such as gender and immigration would "make sure that people can share their beliefs and experiences on our platforms" and he said the focus of filters that scan posts for policy violations would be shifted to only tackling illegal and high severity violations with Meta, relying on users to report lower severity violations before it takes action.
"By dialling them back, we're going to dramatically reduce the amount of censorship on our platforms," he said.

This is also interesting, doing what moderation should be there for, enforcing the rules of the site, and keeping things legal.

To me, this feels like a move that's riding the coattails of Twitter, with how it's seemed... more relevant for the election? Or maybe that's just because of how much shit Elon Musk has been up to recently.

 

[Regal]

Do you think that part of Meta's goal is to exert even more control over "the algorithm" in terms of what's trending, what's being seen, what's being hidden and what not? Essentially like astro turfing but with AI chatbots instead of whatever people use now.

When you have raw access to the algorithm you can easily modify it to skew one way or another. They don't need to manipulate it in the way you're describing.

I think the vision for the AI bots was simpler than everyone is making it. They would all be a way of advertising. Imagine an AI called John. It is an AI bot that has a family. He shares pictures of his family enjoying Coca Cola. In fact, he loves Coca Cola. Can talk to anyone about Coca Cola 24/7 and knows every detail about Coca Cola for anyone that asks it questions. And if you interact with John suddenly you get more Coca Cola ads sent your way.

Something like that anyway. Instead of assuming something nefarious it is always simpler to assume it is about getting advertising revenue and/or siphoning your data.

 

[JWJ212]

I think the vision for the AI bots was simpler than everyone is making it. They would all be a way of advertising. Imagine an AI called John. It is an AI bot that has a family. He shares pictures of his family enjoying Coca Cola. In fact, he loves Coca Cola. Can talk to anyone about Coca Cola 24/7 and knows every detail about Coca Cola for anyone that asks it questions. And if you interact with John suddenly you get more Coca Cola ads sent your way.

Yeah, I agree with this take. It will just be a way to siphon advertising in a way that creates "human connection" without actually having to pay humans. It is just automating yet another resource that would normally require man hours to do like what most AI companies are trying to do. See for example, customer service, security, etc. The end is just getting to the goal of advertising with the least effort possible.

As easy as it is to have a dystopian doomer mentality about this shit I think it is more just a continuation of what companies have been trying to do since the beginning of time. It's just retarded, and there isn't much else to it.

 

[youtherthyf]

however if that is the case having corporate AI accounts that make it big will be profitable situation for them, suddenly the monthly paycheck for a creator just becomes a percentage of the power bill and server upkeep alongside your other army of robot accounts

there are theories around spotify doing the same thing. all users are [first name] [last name]. bio empty, no links or info. pfp is the album cover(might be AI) of one of their music. it is possible this is just people doing the AI generation but the fact they make it consistenly into big playlists is suspecous.

i might be dumb but- isn't this money laundering?
like company takes money from sponser/ad -> redistributes a portion of the money to creator/partner(45% for youtube, 70% for spotify, ect.) -> Ai generated creator is kinda like a fake front, sending the money back to the original company.
and with [new best vpn++] and [gambling for kids mobile:diffenitive edition] sponser money in the equasion we are talking about a money laundering operation worth millions

 

[Some_porcupine]

"Meta to get rid of factcheckers and recommend more political content"

This line from the article seems interesting

Are community notes any good on Twitter? From what little twitter I use, they don't seem that bad.

This line I also think is interesting. They're paying attention to how much people trust in social media... I wonder how they're measuring it or proxying for trust.

This is also interesting, doing what moderation should be there for, enforcing the rules of the site, and keeping things legal.

To me, this feels like a move that's riding the coattails of Twitter, with how it's seemed... more relevant for the election? Or maybe that's just because of how much shit Elon Musk has been up to recently.

as i read it in order, there is only one answer for me for this:
to crack human behaviour. nothing new, but in new environment. see, to watch people into "their world", in their brain - they (to my view) want to test "reality world vs mental world", how people react to doublethink, to paradoxes of present (day). maybe i am insane, but to me, it seems they want to "crack", and amplify (per-say) insanity. if people slip on facebook, and all friends see it, then, that net of micro-interactions (what ive seen, most people dont talk together,

they just like 1-3 posts new of friends) - using it to (or even, messages???) train, subvert and identify/mark their users. like cambridge analytica did. i volunteered. it said who i am to them and how they calculated it, tho i didnt saved it anywhere or if i did, it is lost somewhere... easy labels. list of values. might remind you of how there was some pxxned experiment with MRI and scanning brain to reverse-engineer thoughts, sort of "reading thoughts", - remember

that (or fb also had some such experiment iirc with some their ai...)? to me, they want to crack people, to make some sort of manchurian candidate out of them. see how tv, news and internet change people - i said in some prev thread, that there is possibility that mkultra tv-experiment was success and that "boiling frog" actually might work(, lies becomes lies by repeating then many times). but these fabs are "satanic", some may say - it targets (to me)

susceptibility, morality, will (susp. gratif. experiments) - not that it wasnt done before, only that this time, this thing (that goes "for soul"), attacks on all fronts (5g warfare) - here we are, in (19)20s, technocrats are back... - to form, mold society to their bidding, they (TINC2) need to study human behaviour. notice how "weak" we became since c. 2014, 2017, 2020... pendulum swings back - from reeddit-tier iflscience-shipping, to "i dont believe shit anymore" - if you dont

have none of these (will, morals, etc.), then any gust of wind can break your neck... i know it sounds like cliche, but so does anything else if you try to defend it against reeddit whataboutism syndrome!
sorry this came over me, it is just that i am what i hate, i became bad because if (idk...) god made all this, then, how comes we can ignore our own hearts? i know we have free will, but if it indestructible, cant we ... can god create something that threatens them? did we killed god? ... hi

 

[RisingThumb]

I think the vision for the AI bots was simpler than everyone is making it. They would all be a way of advertising. Imagine an AI called John. It is an AI bot that has a family. He shares pictures of his family enjoying Coca Cola. In fact, he loves Coca Cola. Can talk to anyone about Coca Cola 24/7 and knows every detail about Coca Cola for anyone that asks it questions. And if you interact with John suddenly you get more Coca Cola ads sent your way.

Thanks for sharing this. I was wondering how it was going to fit into the advertising playbook, but now I think I understand a little better. They'll probably make some AIs share and be big fans of advertised products. I can imagine it being some Truman show-tier advertising bullshit

 

[Aral]

Eh, one more reason to stay away or just use it for social convenience/looking at funny shit, I guess. Absolutely nothing surprises me anymore with social media sites.

 

[wearyinternettraveler]

Journos mad, must be a day that ends in "y": https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social...ers-call-lgbtq-people-mentally-ill-rcna186700

I think Zuck is hoping this increases interaction, but I think the main angle is to get in the good graces of the incoming administration. The fact he moved the fact checker teams from California to Texas is hilarious to me, but that pandering is probably gonna pay dividends later.

On another note zuck's wigger fit is exceptionally terrible. He looks like he smells like vape juice.

i might be dumb but- isn't this money laundering?
like company takes money from sponser/ad -> redistributes a portion of the money to creator/partner(45% for youtube, 70% for spotify, ect.) -> Ai generated creator is kinda like a fake front, sending the money back to the original company.

It's an extension of "click fraud" in advertising. These companies deserve it though, they were the ones who sold the concept of "clicks" to firms as an accurate way to measure advertisement interaction/exposure.

 

[brentw]

They are already showing up. They're at the doors. Drums in the deep...
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The Internet's about to be full of Orcs.

I am extra disgusted when these AIs claim relationships to "people" that don't even exist. Like, maybe if this thing's "children" were also AIs present on the site that would be one thing. But to have full-on pretend children just feels like it brings the situation to a whole other level of fake. Fake squared.

Well, at least I don't have to suspend any disbelief on non-existent father.