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Life Today Without Internet or Technology

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Hello fellow degenerates,

I'm doing a paper for school right now about the impact of "connectedness" and technology. One small problem. There is not a single paper out on how to live without ANY use of the internet or phones. It left me wondering is it even possible? Without joining an Amish community or something anyways. Like how would you even get a job?
 
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I think it IS possible, but it'd be so inconvenient to a point where I don't see it working in, like, 99% of places. Maybe somewhere that's a couple acres removed from being "off grid" like up in Alaska or wherever, though even those places have access to tech (and for probably good reasons), so I'm not sure if that's even possible. I do know that plenty of minimum wage jobs still offer paper applications because there's a lot of homeless or nearly homeless folk who just do better with that.

I dunno, man. I feel like it's a lot easier to just set heavy limits on yourself and the tech you use than to do without it because the world just doesn't accommodate a tech-less mindset. The genie was out of the bottle 40+ years ago; there's no going back now.
 
Hello fellow degenerates,

I'm doing a paper for school right now about the impact of "connectedness" and technology. One small problem. There is not a single paper out on how to live without ANY use of the internet or phones. It left me wondering is it even possible? Without joining an Amish community or something anyways. Like how would you even get a job?
ask parents? if they are not 90s kids, but like 60s-50s... they might know
 
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I'm doing a paper for school right now about the impact of "connectedness" and technology. One small problem. There is not a single paper out on how to live without ANY use of the internet or phones. It left me wondering is it even possible? Without joining an Amish community or something anyways. Like how would you even get a job?
That sounds like a good start for your paper. I'd give a thoughtful reply, but I'm not going to do your homework unless you pay me.
 
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Have you thought about extensively quoting Ted Kaczynski?

Might be fun!
 
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Off topic, but I find the idea of moving to a far-off place, specifically an island, with a small number of people pretty nice (preferably in the Southern Hemisphere since I like sunny days.). I would get rid of most technology, only keeping my computer, radio devices and other essential things, and start a peaceful life away from all of the problems and chaos outside (especially seeing how everything's going to shit). It seems like a dream to me.
 
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Hello fellow degenerates,

I'm doing a paper for school right now about the impact of "connectedness" and technology. One small problem. There is not a single paper out on how to live without ANY use of the internet or phones. It left me wondering is it even possible? Without joining an Amish community or something anyways. Like how would you even get a job?
i would KILL myself immediately
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If I one day stopped using the internet and my phone for a year, I would make artwork on my sketchbooks/paint, read books and textbooks I use for school classes for reference.
(And listening to cassette tapes on my cassette player, and listen to the radio.)
I'll end up having withdrawals but that's all really.
 
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The first step might be deciding where you draw the line of 'communication technology.' Even uncle Ted utilized the post. I was thinking about this recently as I've connected with an old friend who I remember avoiding getting an email address long into the time when it was just assumed that you had one. (He ended up working in cybersecurity - go figure).

Of course you'll always be able to live off grid to some extent, until they Rainbow Farm you for having too much fun.
I think the more interesting thing is how little communication technology can you get by with in modern society and not be overly gimped by it. (What jobs could you do? Can you even still pay taxes and stuff in person?)

(Also yeah, do your own damn homework)
 

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I was thinking about this recently as I've connected with an old friend who I remember avoiding getting an email address long into the time when it was just assumed that you had one.
Similar mind here, stalled on email (and later smart phone) until it was no longer possible to avoid. As long as it doesn't come from a place of negativity or losing sleep it's probably alright. Early adopters are taxed harder (failed products, data leaks, etc) so damage mitigation is a tangible benefit!
 

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By "technology", you mean computers, TVs, cars and such? Because if you mean technology as a whole then the control of fire would also count as such, and you would have to talk about a civilization without fire.
Also, thanks to our magnificent Sun the possibility that all electricity based technology, like the internet, will suddenly cease to work is higher than we would like.
 
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If I one day stopped using the internet and my phone for a year, I would make artwork on my sketchbooks/paint, read books and textbooks I use for school classes for reference.
(And listening to cassette tapes on my cassette player, and listen to the radio.)
I'll end up having withdrawals but that's all really.
I highly doubt this. You're saying that you'll never need to upload a resume or an essay or report or whatever over the internet? You'll never need to call anybody for any reason?
The first step might be deciding where you draw the line of 'communication technology.' Even uncle Ted utilized the post. I was thinking about this recently as I've connected with an old friend who I remember avoiding getting an email address long into the time when it was just assumed that you had one. (He ended up working in cybersecurity - go figure).

Of course you'll always be able to live off grid to some extent, until they Rainbow Farm you for having too much fun.
I think the more interesting thing is how little communication technology can you get by with in modern society and not be overly gimped by it. (What jobs could you do? Can you even still pay taxes and stuff in person?)

(Also yeah, do your own damn homework)
This is a VERY VERY old post, so dw I'm not using anything any of you say lol. It's to the point that I'm shocked you guys managed to dredge it up in the first place. I'm out of college and back in High school.
I think in the essay I ended up writing first said that using tech was bad because the EM fields fuck with your own EM fields. Sooo, I suppose the line would be even existing withing a wifi microwave field or anywhere within range of a cellphone tower. Kinda ridiculous, so the question was mainly abt not having wifi in YOUR house or a cellphone/computer. Idk if landlines give off an EM field, so that could be an exception
By "technology", you mean computers, TVs, cars and such? Because if you mean technology as a whole then the control of fire would also count as such, and you would have to talk about a civilization without fire.
Also, thanks to our magnificent Sun the possibility that all electricity based technology, like the internet, will suddenly cease to work is higher than we would like.
Alright smartass. ^mainly stuff that gives off any sort of strong EM field.
 
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I highly doubt this. You're saying that you'll never need to upload a resume or an essay or report or whatever over the internet? You'll never need to call anybody for any reason?
If the person you're responding to doesn't have interest in getting a job or is incapable of such, and if they aren't in school or college, it's actually very likely they could live without computers and other stuff of the sort. About the only thing they would realistically run into is, as you said, the rare case they'd need to call someone. However, they could just agree to meet up at specific dates and times, and they can just send letters back and forth. Doesn't help in emergencies, but I'd presume vehicles would be forbidden too, so a car breaking down isn't exactly an issue.
I think in the essay I ended up writing first said that using tech was bad because the EM fields fuck with your own EM fields. Sooo, I suppose the line would be even existing withing a wifi microwave field or anywhere within range of a cellphone tower. Kinda ridiculous, so the question was mainly abt not having wifi in YOUR house or a cellphone/computer. Idk if landlines give off an EM field, so that could be an exception
On a semi-related note, *any* wireless signals are arguably very bad for you. Sound waves from tech is bad, WiFi+Bluetooth is bad for you, etc. Wired everything, or at least keep wireless signals hundreds of feet away from you, connecting to it for control via wires ofc.
 
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I think so long as you had reliable postal service, pen, paper, stamps, envelopes and one of those old fashioned wall landline non-smart telephone-o-matics on the wall you could do away with a lot of modern technology.

The postal service would deliver the printed matter and you could order things with your paper and stamps. The phone would be useful for long distance immediate but low bandwith communication and this covers all your informational needs. Do you really need to know what happened on the other side of the globe in nowheresville right this instant?

So I think the internet could be done away with, but technology is too vague to define. To make an absurd claim, you could stretch this all the way back to fire as others have said.
 
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This is to vague to answer coherently; is one saying "No recourse to the globally established and maintained computer network known as the Internet and no use of the globally established and maintained telephonic network known as the Phone System" or is one saying "no computer networks of any kind" or is one only saying "no large, societal-level and centralized network infrastructure" or is one saying "no telecommunications of any kind" or is one saying "no centralized telecommunications of any kind" or is one saying "no recourse to computerized technology nor access to any of the associated telecom networks and related infrastructure" ?????

One could build a network outside of the The Internet™ and the Telephone system and related infrastructure. And how directly or indirectly are ones restricted from the use? Is one restricted from using items produced and distributed using these things? does one have to buy it's sneakers from the cobbler who has no email address thru witch it buys materials to make the Air Force ones???? Could one establish an old-skool sneakernet by paying young street urchins to deliver the digital storage device as a replacement for the electrical packet system??? Could one have them delivered to another one who has access to the internet??? for sending the sbemails and the things on it's behalf as a hybrid meat and silicon portal to The Internet™???

Ones could do packet radio with no recourse to any established infrastructure; there is mails and bbs boards for discussions etc. One could do radiotelegraphy and skip the comps (one doesn't even need recourse to pre-built radio machines for this since one could build a [technically illega] sparkgap transmitter using crap like zinc and copper metals and easily available chemicals like acids and various salts and water....) or if one has recourse to much equipment, it could build a parallel telecom network.


One cannot simply ask the question so vaguely, like some kind of middle-school english class prompt
 
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I think so long as you had reliable postal service, pen, paper, stamps, envelopes and one of those old fashioned wall landline non-smart telephone-o-matics on the wall you could do away with a lot of modern technology.

The postal service would deliver the printed matter and you could order things with your paper and stamps. The phone would be useful for long distance immediate but low bandwith communication and this covers all your informational needs. Do you really need to know what happened on the other side of the globe in nowheresville right this instant?

So I think the internet could be done away with, but technology is too vague to define. To make an absurd claim, you could stretch this all the way back to fire as others have said.
And fax, or?
 
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