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Old 4chan becomes a trending aesthetic for TikTok zoomers

It's interesting how everything that was considered counterculture or alternative became completely mainstream, like punk, alternative rock, anime, video games, internet culture, aesthetic culture, and vaporwave etc, so sad
if you knew how this shit pisses me off. people say that to not change opinion is foolish, but if they do this much (and get to be sellouts for quick fixes), then it boils my blood and think i have right to be pissed!
 
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if you knew how this shit pisses me off. people say that to not change opinion is foolish, but if they do this much (and get to be sellouts for quick fixes), then it boils my blood and think i have right to be pissed!
It's annoying and even sad, there are things that have a special essence, and they shouldn't reach the mainstream.
 

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Was thinking recently about how there is no real "counterculture" anymore. There is the monoculture that subsumes anything cool and original and commodifies it.
Correct yet overdue. thread is Next aisle on left. ("PROFILICITY AND THE FUTURE OF SOCIETY" /THREAD)
 
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Correct yet overdue. thread is Next aisle on left.

Was thinking recently about how there is no real "counterculture" anymore. There is the monoculture that subsumes anything cool and original and commodifies it.
its sad isnt it?
Its the main problem with counter-culture or edginess, its always a moving target; norms are quick to change and once shock wears off you can't recreate with the same stuff again.
 
It's annoying and even sad, there are things that have a special essence, and they shouldn't reach the mainstream.
Everything getting repackaged and streamlined for the masses. It's like it's impossible to have your own "little corner"
 
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I was on 4chan in 2007, people were reminiscing about the "old internet" and complaining about newfags back then too.

Indifferent, in fact good if this pulls the younger generation away from social media slop and pushes them towards better alternatives like textboards, imageboards, forums etc.
what was old internet in 2007? netscape navigator and usenet? was their an 'old internet' aesthetic associated with that
 
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what was old internet in 2007? netscape navigator and usenet? was their an 'old internet' aesthetic associated with that
i am like totally biased, but what they had it mightve been c. /(while there were TINC 1 (93-00/01), 2 (09-14...) and 3 (...17-20/21; if we are nearing another one in 3-5/25...)/ --- https://sites.google.com/view/utopistic-nostalgias/homeintro#h.rzfekoe5rndi

am i into something?

 
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That would be a disaster, it would destroy the platform and ruin the culture we have here, we would simply be overrun and then corporatized. although i think we should have a procedure if such an incursion event would happen, i think i'll make a thread on that.
I don't think it would matter much. They don't particularly like forums just due to the nature of it. There's a reason they like the aesthetic of 4chan, and don't actually like 4chan. It's like how those old vsco girls or whatever they were got into analogue cameras. They weren't actually going out and taking pictures with them, they just got the camera, drove the price of film gear up for a little bit, then quit using them. Worst case scenario is they find the website, post some screenshots. Maybe it gets flooded with introductions but they quickly find out they don't like the place and go back to TikTok when they get bored. Besides, this place doesn't seem that huge. It's kind of small and cozy to my eyes. I don't imagine theres millions of users here. Maybe in the lower tens of thousands and thats pushing it, until I see a number, because theres barely 2k threads in general and most of the replies will be people talking amongst themselves. In the other big one, esoteric, theres not even a thousand. Forums are too much of a slow burn in todays world of fast paced instant dopamine hit everything.
 
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I think its mainly just insulated middle class normies stealing valor. Same with how they appropriate things that are ghetto. Anything that might make them seem more cool or hardcore than they really are.
 

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Anything that might make them seem more cool or hardcore than they really are.
That's a big part of it too. Remember kids coming up to you back in the day and showing you gore and weird porn? One kid tried to trick me into poisoning my dog, but he's a sociopath and an asshole. Story for another day.
 

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what was old internet in 2007? netscape navigator and usenet? was their an 'old internet' aesthetic associated with that
I'm guessing there's multiple flavors of old internet. You have the early 90s with Usenet, late 90s to early 2000s with Geocities, and late 2000s to early 2010s with MySpace.
 
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I'm guessing there's multiple flavors of old internet. You have the early 90s with Usenet, late 90s to early 2000s with Geocities, and late 2000s to early 2010s with MySpace.
reminds me how the romans visited ancient greece and sparta as tourist attractions. Did the people of myspace look back with this same nostalgic, touristic reverence towards some other period like the usenet days?
 
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It's a damn good aesthetic. I don't blame them.

Also, you could count a tiktok zoomer as someone, say, 19-20 years old, if you like. I'm not much older than that. A 20 year old today would have seen plenty of rage comics as a small child. Were they completely steeped in the culture? No, of course not. But more filters down than you think - they'll have vague, fuzzy memories of it. Same with the whole y2k clothing aesthetics that have made the rounds - fuzzy memories of celebrities in all denim, reimagined and recaptured.

In many ways, how much of the old 4chan aesthetic really left? People still post as much lucky star as ever, no?
 

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Also, you could count a tiktok zoomer as someone, say, 19-20 years old, if you like. I'm not much older than that. A 20 year old today would have seen plenty of rage comics as a small child. Were they completely steeped in the culture? No, of course not. But more filters down than you think - they'll have vague, fuzzy memories of it. Same with the whole y2k clothing aesthetics that have made the rounds - fuzzy memories of celebrities in all denim, reimagined and recaptured.
As a zoomer who likes old internet things and wearing Y2K clothes and shit, I feel targeted lol.

I'm guessing they're either trying to make something new out of those fashion styles from back then or are not doing a good job at exactly replicating how they looked back then. This serves the question, if one really wants to wear 2000s fashion, which of these two should be the best way to go about it?
 
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A 20 year old today would have seen plenty of rage comics as a small child. Were they completely steeped in the culture? No, of course not. But more filters down than you think - they'll have vague, fuzzy memories of it.
The renewal of rage comics points heavily to this. It's young people doing it, too. Now, 18-21 or so. I mean that's how old they are now. It revived with the whole "oil floats on water" thing. I guess that was 2020 so they may be older. Either way, it never really died, just went out of the limelight for a bit. Then schizo posting came about. The whole troll face eldritch horror thing. The only real difference is we have wojaks instead of rage comics now. It's functionally the same thing, just the same art style instead of a few similar ones mashed together. I basically grew up on the things so it was nice seeing them come back. At least for a little while
 

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what was old internet in 2007? netscape navigator and usenet? was their an 'old internet' aesthetic associated with that
It definitely isn't as strong a nostalgia as it is today, ofc. Today we're talking about aesthetics and culture nearly 2 decades old, but I frankly don't remember a lot of people wishing to go back that much back in 2007 (That would be '87! Most people wouldn't even have connections to any nets at home!). Definitely a lot of "back in my days" about mid-to-late-'90s though. As far as I remember, the digital "aesthetic" culture wasn't as strong as today, so people didn't really associate any particular aesthetic with the old net, though this might just be my then-disinterest speaking.

Also please keep in mind forums existed all the way back to the '80s, Delphi Forums is 42 years old! Feels like you think the "old internet" is newer than it is, the beast that was IRC was declining heavily in 2007, in fact I believe it lost majority of its users by the early 2010s, if not late 2000s. MySpace was about to see its peak user counts in a year from then, and and then very quickly get overtaken by Facebook within the same year or the next. GeoCities was on its tail-end, and would be shutdown in 2 years in 2009. From 2005 to 2010 is the transitional era from the internet that was, to how we know it today. What I remember is pretty much wide adoption of social media, with some minimal resistance. Forums continued strong for a while though, I remember the forums I was active on still being active in early-but not mid-2010s. 4chan was a new thing back then, in fact it was the first imageboard that I've used, and the first one I know to be really popular outside Japan. It was like, 3-4 years old by that point.

So yeah, what would people be nostalgic about on the net in 2007? Depending on how old the person is it's either going to be usenet, BBSs etc. (though I always felt like those people are the most excited about the new stuff too, I'm a bit too young to be nostalgic for those, neat stuff though) or literally the same things people are nostalgic about today like forums, geocities, IRC etc.
 
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