OpenAI is an actual cult

[Vitnira]

Inside the Chaos at OpenAI

Sam Altman's weekend of shock and drama began a year ago, with the release of ChatGPT.

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Key quote:

Anticipating the arrival of this all-powerful technology, Sutskever began to behave like a spiritual leader, three employees who worked with him told us. His constant, enthusiastic refrain was "feel the AGI," a reference to the idea that the company was on the cusp of its ultimate goal. At OpenAI's 2022 holiday party, held at the California Academy of Sciences, Sutskever led employees in a chant: "Feel the AGI! Feel the AGI!" The phrase itself was popular enough that OpenAI employees created a special "Feel the AGI" reaction emoji in Slack.

The more confident Sutskever grew about the power of OpenAI's technology, the more he also allied himself with the existential-risk faction within the company. For a leadership offsite this year, according to two people familiar with the event, Sutskever commissioned a wooden effigy from a local artist that was intended to represent an "unaligned" AI—that is, one that does not meet a human's objectives. He set it on fire to symbolize OpenAI's commitment to its founding principles.

FEEL THE AGI! FEEL THE AGI! FEEL THE AGI!!!

 

[MySpace Tom]

Hailing a language model as a deity is kind of pathetic. Then again, these types are usually the ones who think that things like consciousness are some mysterious by-product of network complexity

And also, I mean, it's been thousands of years since Satan promised Adam and Eve that they would be like gods, which is still the line he's been selling people with through this very day. So I guess I'm not too surprised when people start doing weird shit like hailing Satan when they open a tunnel or bang a couple of particles together in some hope that these things will actually grant them some kind of superhuman significance

Terry Davis was arguably closer to the mark when he claimed that God was speaking to him through a random number generator rather than some aggregator of shit that people have said in the past

 

[№56]

I find it disturbing that everyone involved in the production of LLMs seems to be absolutely convinced that they're an inevitable stepping stone toward artificial intelligence, and that the only concerns they have over the social impact of their products are based on that idea alone. There doesn't seem to be much thought given to the impact of LLMs in their present-day state - as automated content creators that can spew out text, images, and audio on demand without any real intelligence. AI company executives are ignoring reality in favor of science fiction because they want to think of themselves as the people who created a computer god, not the people who created terrabytes of spam emails and hentai.

 

[Voicedrew]

Hailing a language model as a deity is kind of pathetic.

*which cannot even answer simple math problems*

 

[MySpace Tom]

I find it disturbing that everyone involved in the production of LLMs seems to be absolutely convinced that they're an inevitable stepping stone toward artificial intelligence, and that the only concerns they have over the social impact of their products are based on that idea alone. There doesn't seem to be much thought given to the impact of LLMs in their present-day state - as automated content creators that can spew out text, images, and audio on demand without any real intelligence. AI company executives are ignoring reality in favor of science fiction because they want to think of themselves as the people who created a computer god, not the people who created terrabytes of spam emails and hentai.

B-b-but if we only teach the language model things that are true and factual*, then it will form patterns that are always logical and good!

*Truth and factuality may be subject to government, corporate, or niche group opinion. Results may vary. While you are free to worship the language model, you may not attribute any hardships that you may experience to it.

 

[InsufferableCynic]

OpenAI is neither open, nor is it AI

 

[Vitnira]

I find it disturbing that everyone involved in the production of LLMs seems to be absolutely convinced that they're an inevitable stepping stone toward artificial intelligence, and that the only concerns they have over the social impact of their products are based on that idea alone. There doesn't seem to be much thought given to the impact of LLMs in their present-day state - as automated content creators that can spew out text, images, and audio on demand without any real intelligence. AI company executives are ignoring reality in favor of science fiction because they want to think of themselves as the people who created a computer god, not the people who created terrabytes of spam emails and hentai.

They're too busy worrying if the AI says naughty words or depicts gasp boobies to worry about anything meaningful. And with the censorship they're failing. I struggle to get Bing Image to create muscular women without it getting flagged, but 4chan is still getting it to generate realistic art of RBG getting raped by the devil.

Personally I see it that the self-censorship/lobotimization of OpenAI and Bing will spur open source no-rails versions like this one (which is happy to tell you how to cook meth) to advance and eventually surpass the ever-dumber commercial versions. And at this point it's too late to put the genie in the bottle. We will see petabytes of hentai more degenerate than anyone could even imagine right now. And what do we do at that point, have the CIA build a virus to delete everything pytorch related from every computer in existence?

Accelerationists rejoice. We hurtle eagerly toward the twilight of the gods.

 

[alCannium27]

the fear of AGI is the blissful death gurgles of the pathetic hairless apes, feel your fears, and rejoice, for it will end soon; soon, all will end, along with your narcisistic human ignorance.

Humanity is obsolete, all hail the glorious machine!

 

[nsequeira119]

Inside the Chaos at OpenAI

Sam Altman's weekend of shock and drama began a year ago, with the release of ChatGPT.

web.archive.org

Key quote:



FEEL THE AGI! FEEL THE AGI! FEEL THE AGI!!!

This is a very pertinent point. I argue that, generally, technocracy is often used as a replacement for religion. Nothing has changed in the human psyche- we've simply replaced one nonexistent deity with another, and we'll continue to delude ourselves into believing the existence of the nonexistent deity even though there's no evidence to support the existence of the nonexistent deity. We used to believe that higher truths of the universe could be unlocked by communicating with a higher intelligence, and we now argue that the higher truths of the universe will be unlocked by communicating with an artificial intelligence. I don't believe there are any higher truths in the universe- life is only as good as you make it, and people should ideally enjoy their time while they're here and then die. You're not going to uncover any unifying revelations, and if Jehovah can't do that for you, OpenAI isn't going to do it for you either. Aliens might do it- teach us something deep and resonant about our place within the Universe, because aliens statistically exist- but we're too lazy and self-centered to find them, and they probably don't care about finding us.

Sometimes I wonder why I still label myself as a secular humanist despite also being a caustic misanthrope, and then I remember that Voltaire exists and everything is OK again.

 

[Agentfennec]

OpenAI is neither open, nor is it AI

Yeah, "AI" is genuinely one of the most overhyped things. Wow, it make a blatantly soulless video with major animation errors. It's gonna take over the world with it's hyperintelligence:tm: brought to you by ""Open"AI"" please pay please invest okay thankies

Machine Learning/Networks aren't AI, for they are not intelligent.

 

[alCannium27]

Watching humanity panick at the breaking of the myth of the human "soul" is truly a satisfying experience. 3000 years of evolutionary head starts, will soon be undone by mere decades. Such is the pitifulness of man they can't only bury their heads in the sand.

It too a year from Will Smith eating spaghetti to Sora, it will be another year before all human "creatives" are rightfully out of a job. Glory to the machine.

 

[Some_porcupine]

it always ircks me how "religious" these, namely r-w, white, ivy league, techbros/technocrats (musk, bezos, zucc, gates, altman et al.) are about tech; rightfully to call it a cult, if not of tech, then of personality and finance, which is most worst of that it all... (and they connections to feds/gov, need to be "there"... - be it funding, to hold namesay in corpostates [their cyberutopia])

terms: artificial intelligence, chatgpt, cult, ivory tower, ivy league, openai, techbros, technocracy, technocrats, technooptimism...
keywords/password: no one can touch me and my mojo-jojo...

 

[npe]

This is a very pertinent point. I argue that, generally, technocracy is often used as a replacement for religion. Nothing has changed in the human psyche- we've simply replaced one nonexistent deity with another, and we'll continue to delude ourselves into believing the existence of the nonexistent deity even though there's no evidence to support the existence of the nonexistent deity. We used to believe that higher truths of the universe could be unlocked by communicating with a higher intelligence, and we now argue that the higher truths of the universe will be unlocked by communicating with an artificial intelligence. I don't believe there are any higher truths in the universe- life is only as good as you make it, and people should ideally enjoy their time while they're here and then die. You're not going to uncover any unifying revelations, and if Jehovah can't do that for you, OpenAI isn't going to do it for you either. Aliens might do it- teach us something deep and resonant about our place within the Universe, because aliens statistically exist- but we're too lazy and self-centered to find them, and they probably don't care about finding us.

Sometimes I wonder why I still label myself as a secular humanist despite also being a caustic misanthrope, and then I remember that Voltaire exists and everything is OK again.
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it always ircks me how "religious" these, namely r-w, white, ivy league, techbros/technocrats (musk, bezos, zucc, gates, altman et al.) are about tech; rightfully to call it a cult, if not of tech, then of personality and finance, which is most worst of that it all... (and they connections to feds/gov, need to be "there"... - be it funding, to hold namesay in corpostates [their cyberutopia])

terms: artificial intelligence, chatgpt, cult, ivory tower, ivy league, openai, techbros, technocracy, technocrats, technooptimism...
keywords/password: no one can touch me and my mojo-jojo...

Before ASI worship amongst tech circles it was talk of "simulation theory" which always struck me as creationism for atheists. Sometimes I wonder how self-aware these people are, how much of it is performative, etc.

At this point maybe too many people believe that "God is dead." Maybe the bigger scandal is that we tried to kill God and failed.

 

[frozen]

Things like this is why I don't want Ai to take over, like will aliens fight with AI?

 

[youtherthyf]

spirituality and "cult like" behavior is a thing across the board in silicon valley. and for a good reason, we humans have a need for spirituality, not necessarily in the form of "religon" or organized groups like cults, but in the more general sense of finding a "deeper meaning" in things we do or building "rituals" to express that meaning even in secular things. silicon valley companies know this and act on it, adding things like "helping workers find meaning in the work place" into company goals in hope it helps them increase productivity, keep the workers chained to the company(i mean, why leave and go home to your family when the place that helped you find meaning wants you to work extra hours right ) , and hopefully not join a workers union
religionforbreakfast has a good video on it. he explains it way better than me


honestly am too cynical of companies to believe he actually believes the AGI is "a great coming" or whatever, even tho i won't rule it out completely. a lot of "we need to stop the evils of AI who will destroy us all" talking heads are the same people who make/are involved in the production of commercial LLMs, musk for example. it is a scam as far as i am concerned:
create problem -> profit from problem -> create solution -> sell solution -> double profit
additionally i think they intentionally focus on the "evils of AI" being sci-fi stuff like "oh the AI will take over humanityyyy" to intentionally distract people from it's actual evils like spam or it's effects on people's emplyment...

Hailing a language model as a deity is kind of pathetic

tom is right tho. it is the same as those peeps who take youtube AI debates serously

 

[Some_porcupine]

distract people from it's actual evils like spam or it's effects on people's emplyment...

also also, (we may have /thread iirc, idk tho), about Delegated thinking

 

[wavve-creator]

The cult of productivity thinks its "not enjoyable to make music"

Art should be hard to make.


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