Pondering a 2nd U.S. "Civil War" - Speculating contributing factors, potential effects, issues with the narrative, and misc thoughts

[SolidStateSurvivor]

Trump's claiming he will be arrested Tuesday and is calling for protests to "take the nation back"

 

[Outer Heaven]

This worked so well when he was still president that it will work even better when he's powerless. Get ready for another "never forget the evils of fascism" holiday when some retard boomers get capped by the police defending shadow president Trump.

 

[Pangolin]

I doubt anyone will actually listen to this orange fool. Other than the feds pretending to be protesting and encouraging criminality. Nobody forgot Ray Epps. Who is he? Why does he have three letter agency links? Its obvious. It was all a setup by the feds.

 

[Regal]

Assuming Trump is right, the timing is interesting given that 3 days ago they arrested that Chinese billionaire with significant ties to Bannon.

Even if Trump did move his followers to "take back the country" there aren't enough of them or enough support of them for civil war. They would just be a huge terrorist organization. Not that that's much better.

 

[Pangolin]

Trump is most likely controlled opposition and everyone who bought into the Trumpmania is now kicking themselves for past support as his bad decisions come back to bite them. In the form of rising costs, banking deregulation, and now for their trump-mistake it led to the biden-mistake where its a different color, and more of the same. Rising costs for you and bailouts for the top 1%.

 

[zalaz alaza]

who is this guy?

 

[SolidStateSurvivor]

I doubt anyone will actually listen to this orange fool. Other than the feds pretending to be protesting and encouraging criminality. Nobody forgot Ray Epps. Who is he? Why does he have three letter agency links? Its obvious. It was all a setup by the feds.

People turned up unprompted to show support at Mar-a-Largo after the FBI raids after all, still holds massive rallys. He's definitely going to get a crowd after these posts. At this point his supporters are well aware of feds glowing it up at their demonstrations (and their inaction on other politicians) so if uniformed feds show up for this arrest operation I could see protestors taking their frustration out on those agents. A boomer v glowie beat down will make for amazing entertainment.

Trump's posts on this are way more frantic than I've seen (above is his most recent one.) I think he's genuinely worried that this arrest will go down (speculation seems to indicate so as well.) The rhetoric he's putting out is pretty clear in what he's advocating for.

 

[SolidStateSurvivor]

Well it's Tuesday 2PM EST and no arrest. LAME! Reports indicate an indictment is still most likely coming (notice how none of the "fact checkers" came out the woodworks to debunk the initial arrest claims?)

Starting to get a lil spicy tho, unfounded bomb threats coming into NYC including the courthouse handling the case, said bomb threat may have thrown off the hearing schedule. An increased number of NYPD on the streets and metal barricades up. If glowies want violence then keep an eye out for mysterious pallets of bricks showing up on the streets like they did in 2020.

Guess I'll save the popcorn and beer for another day...

 

[remember_summer_days]

Damn I also had my popcorn ready

 

[SolidStateSurvivor]

Indictment is a go, guess the question now is if he'll willingly turn himself in?

 

[Pangolin]

These fools just handed over the election to Trump on a silver platter. He is gonna use the frick out of the indictment to become president.

 

[SolidStateSurvivor]

These fools just handed over the election to Trump on a silver platter. He is gonna use the frick out of the indictment to become president.

I keep hearing this talking point but I personally doubt it. If this was any other candidate I could maybe see this swaying voters, but I don't know anyone who didn't vote for Trump in 2020 going "oh shit this is fucked up I'm gonna vote for him now."

If anything it's the Biden administration's general incompetency that would sway voters, economy is shit right now.

 

[Descarte Yee]

Let's be honest, gentlemen -at least 50% of burgers on this forum right now would die in the event of a civil war. Minimum, of course.

 

[Orlando Smooth]

I keep hearing this talking point but I personally doubt it. If this was any other candidate I could maybe see this swaying voters, but I don't know anyone who didn't vote for Trump in 2020 going "oh shit this is fucked up I'm gonna vote for him now."

No way. There's tons of people who are of the "I'd never want to have Trump as a guest in my house, but I hate the democrats" variety. These are people who happily voted for Bill Clinton, Bush in 2004 because terrorism, and Obama, but deeply hate what the cultural left has become. These are the people that don't necessarily want to vote for Trump because they think he's a gross person, but do so because he's the only one that actually smears the left in a way that resonates with average people. Keep in mind that Trump actually got more total votes in 2020 than 2016, gained ground in every single demographic except college educated white men in the same timeframe, and lost by a very slim margin in 2020. This absolutely works in his favor as it's the proof purchase that the justice system has become weaponized by the political establishment generally, and the left most glaringly. This is a George Soros funded DA! People are not too stupid to realize that.

The other difference is that while Trump and Biden's disapproval ratings are roughly the same, Trump supporters would literally die for him while the democrats feel "meh" at best about Biden. And there's no one else waiting in the wings for the left who commands levels of support on par with Trump.

You're right about this though:

If anything it's the Biden administration's general incompetency that would sway voters, economy is shit right now.

The point is, the cultural left and the democrats have seemingly done everything in their power to make Trump win again in 2024.

 

[SolidStateSurvivor]

These are the people that don't necessarily want to vote for Trump because they think he's a gross person, but do so because he's the only one that actually smears the left in a way that resonates with average people.

I feel like these people would be more likely to either vote third party or not vote at all though?

This absolutely works in his favor as it's the proof purchase that the justice system has become weaponized by the political establishment generally, and the left most glaringly. This is a George Soros funded DA! People are not too stupid to realize that.

A lot of the people I know just see it as further proof that he's a criminal, I get the impression anyone already aware of the shit Soros pulls in the US weren't going to vote dem/Biden anyways.

 

[xdsoftware]

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This is starting to sound like a stupider version of the Yulia Tymoshenko goes to jail for supposed abuse of power but not really situation.
Can't wait until people start to notice that this is likely politically motivated

 

[Orlando Smooth]

I feel like these people would be more likely to either vote third party or not vote at all though?

So if they were either going to vote 3rd party or not vote, but see this, get mad, and vote for Trump that's in his favor.

A lot of the people I know just see it as further proof that he's a criminal, I get the impression anyone already aware of the shit Soros pulls in the US weren't going to vote dem/Biden anyways.

The thing is, this case was already dismissed years ago now. They found some technicality to not only revive the case but elevate it to a felony charge when it's normally prosecuted as a misdemeanor in NY. Of all the the things Trump is being investigated for presently, this is by far the weakest possible charge. If they had half a brain cell to share amongst themselves they'd have prioritized the Dominion lawsuit as well as the GA county one where he instructed the local official to "find the votes."

I won't ask you to doxx yourself but I'm curious what circles you are in that people who are theoretically swing voters are viewing this as "further proof that he's a criminal." The only people I know (or have even heard of) who see it that way were never going to vote for him anyways.

 

[SolidStateSurvivor]

I won't ask you to doxx yourself but I'm curious what circles you are in that people who are theoretically swing voters are viewing this as "further proof that he's a criminal." The only people I know (or have even heard of) who see it that way were never going to vote for him anyways.

I've only had a few friends, Floridians in their mid-20s, to base it off of so far, they're not particularly into politics and by all accounts are "normies."
But perhaps my judgement is off, comment sections seem to reflect your sentiment. Spoke with a relative who has always hated Trump but even they find this whole thing ridiculous, but I doubt it'd be enough to push them to vote for him.

DeSantis is telling New York to fuck itself

View: https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1641575007552778243?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Throwback to a post I made on Aug 12, 2022:

If you want a real shit show for a potential casus belli, it'd be not only the prospect of Trump getting arrested in Florida, but the use of the [Florida] state guard to hinder the feds from carrying it out.

 

[SolidStateSurvivor]

Trump says he'll go willingly to New York, I think he's giving a speech back in Florida after.
Marjorie Greene Taylor has a counter protest planned across the courthouse, maybe I can finally microwave that popcorn come Tuesday...

 

[Deleted member 1982]

Nah, mutts will never do anything. They rather sit on their fat arses and go on about muh guns and "once it reaches muh suburbs" etc. If covid protests were anything you could use to give an estimate than we look at probably a few thousand people that would do something.