What's new
  • Donate and support Agora Road's Macintosh Cafe to keep the forum alive and make any necessary upgrades to have a more pleasant experience! In addition, you will be able to have "moods" enabled on your profile and have donation only awards! Update: I configured the site with Brave Browser, so you can send tips to the site with BAT.

    You can now donate directly to the forum without signing up for patreon. You will still have all of the same perks in patreon but its now one less sign up method. It will be under Account Upgrades

    This is the submission thread for the 2nd E-zine! Please use the dropbox linke for submissions and bump the thread with ideas, comments, statements, or just to bump. If you want to submit your stories or whatever you want to the second edition.

Spamton Sweepstakes Secret Links (IE Toby's making stuff up again)

nobodyhere

[NOTE: I decided to refocus this thread on the Spamton Sweepstakes links rather than Deltarune as a whole. I did this because Deltarune already has its own thread.]
Just what it says on the tin. Here's a theory of mine:
I don't think Kris is actually non-binary—or if "they" is, the non-binary pronouns are mainly intended to misdirect new players by making Kris more of a blank slate/self insert. Toby doesn't strike me as a leftist, despite his penchant for underage lesbians.
 

Attachments

  • F94C0A4B-190D-4DD7-8F67-7CB4AA413A3B.jpeg
    F94C0A4B-190D-4DD7-8F67-7CB4AA413A3B.jpeg
    64 KB · Views: 40
Last edited by a moderator:

nobodyhere

Started investigating this page on the Deltarune website. It can be found through clicking on the "game glitches and secrets" button on the sweepstakes page.
The username holidaygirl, christmas ornaments, and discussion of Dragon Blazers make it clear this page is run by Noelle. Odd that it's linked through the Spamton page rather than the main page, don't you think? Whatever--I started digging through the source of the /code/ page and found a few unused items in the .css:

1. The CSS includes the "Undertale" font (8bitoperator) as the sole custom font family.
2. There are a series of stylings for "body.dark". One element of note is the "body.dark .alert", which makes an element's background dark red and the text pure white.

Also, the blog post says Noelle is listening to "Blood Crushers The Band". Susie uses the name "Blood Crushers" at the end of Chapter 2, when she's asking Kris what movie series they should marathon. Maybe "Blood Crushers" is a brand? It's weird it's shown up twice now--especially in such contrasting contexts.

One last thing--this is SUPER schizo, but the blog post says Noelle's listening to the song "Raise Up Your Bat". The only time the word "bat" is used in Ch.2, when Noelle is reminiscing on when when Kris told Noelle ICEE-E was real and eats kids... and Dess kept hitting Kris with a bat until they he stopped lying. [EDIT: Actually, the word "bat" is used another time, when describing the Spookysword. It's described as "black-and-orange with a bat hilt."]
 

Shantotto

TTD Militia
Bronze
Joined
Jul 13, 2022
Messages
92
Reaction score
212
Awards
34
Started investigating this page on the Deltarune website. It can be found through clicking on the "game glitches and secrets" button on the sweepstakes page.
The username holidaygirl, christmas ornaments, and discussion of Dragon Blazers make it clear this page is run by Noelle. Odd that it's linked through the Spamton page rather than the main page, don't you think? Whatever--I started digging through the source of the /code/ page and found a few unused items in the .css:

1. The CSS includes the "Undertale" font (8bitoperator) as the sole custom font family.
Holy frick bro is investigating the css. That's some dedication. Since I don't know anything outside of what I've watched on game theory like 5 years ago, what's your opinion on sans = ness

I forgot to finish chapter 2, should probably get on that.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

nobodyhere

Update. Found a new blog post through a very noble anon on /v/:

The CSS tag ".body-dark .alert" is used here; it's that banner right at the top with the red backdrop and lock icon. But enough about that--who is Noelle talking about in this post?

The URL and use of they/them pronouns strongly suggests that Noelle is writing about Kris. This notion is further backed up by the focus on a "they" which plays piano. Kris is explicitly stated to have a talent for piano in Chapter 1 (attachment 2), and is even added upon in Chapter 2 (attachment 3). With that established, what inferences can be made about Kris from this post?

Personally, I think Kris had precognition of his* player-fueled possession. Noelle's post describes Kris as, on occasion, appearing to recall something sad and/or important before stepping away to play the piano. It seems like playing the piano for Noelle could have been a method of coping for Kris, as evidenced by him always A) leaving Noelle under false pretenses and B) shutting the piano as soon as Noelle actively acknowledged his playing.

Of course, this specific coping mechanism may not derive from something so supernatural. Kris could also have been doing this to get over his parents' divorce, but the fact Noelle says "it felt like a concert just for me" I don't think Kris played the piano (purely) for himself. (This notion is supported by the deskwoman at the hospital in Chapter 1, who says she enjoyed hearing Kris play the piano.)

*(I'm still gonna use he/him pronouns for Kris because I don't believe in modern gender ideology. Sorry Toby :v)
 

Attachments

  • Screen Shot 2022-09-19 at 6.40.19 PM.png
    Screen Shot 2022-09-19 at 6.40.19 PM.png
    209.3 KB · Views: 8
  • Screen Shot 2022-09-19 at 6.43.03 PM.png
    Screen Shot 2022-09-19 at 6.43.03 PM.png
    94.7 KB · Views: 7
  • Screen Shot 2022-09-19 at 6.44.17 PM.png
    Screen Shot 2022-09-19 at 6.44.17 PM.png
    63.5 KB · Views: 7

MarchToTheSea

Well-Known Traveler
Joined
Dec 21, 2020
Messages
1,039
Reaction score
1,197
Awards
163
i just finished undertale with my 8 year old niece this weekend. she loved it, said it was "A+"

i dont think she picked up on a lot of the THEORY/underground conspiracies, which is understandable i suppose.

i super admire toby for putting all the weird stuff in the game that leads to a lot of theories and analysis
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

nobodyhere

Back with more. There's a whole host of these secret links on the Deltarune website. Here's a list of all the links I know of:
According to the blog page I already described, there are 26 total pages. I've only collected 24--though, should you explore /damnyoutenna/, you could argue that this represents multiple pages. Maybe. TL;DR...
  1. Darkners can directly interact with lightners, as seen on /bluecircle/. Noelle was--somehow--receiving email from Spamton before Chapter two.
  2. Dess is not dead. (See /dess/, /december/). Also, the track "Lost Girl" is likely Dess's theme, NOT Noelle's. In the HTML of /dess/, the HTML section that defines the red guitar explicitly says "dess playing". Furthermore, the source of the page says that the file playing is called "findher.mp3" or "findher.ogg".
  3. ICEE-E might have significant plot relevance. In /icee/, A young Noelle recounts that a picture of ICEE-E on a pizza box winked at her. A graphic of ICEE-E also winks in Chapter 2, in the "fiasagrephreber" (whatever) letter-tile puzzle upon completion. (Source: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dt5RhbMC2Hc)
  4. Chapter 3 will almost certainly take place in the Dreemurr household. Compare /ramb/ to Kris and Asriel's room in particular. The faded blue couch & striped green couch might represent Kris and Asriel's beds respectively, and the red shack(?) in the back seems to represent Asriel's computer desk. Note the mouse (computer mouse), cables, and swords (pens). Not sure what that white box is on the left of the room, though... nor do I understand the two TV's, let alone the two doors and... platter?
  5. Noelle had a strong relationship with ice before Chapter 2. See /icepalace_glaceir/.
 

nobodyhere

The Tenna page Is really messing with me. if you click on the X'd out TV and scroll all the way down, there are two square buttons cloaked in static. If you click on the top square the whole page reformats and, if you scroll to the top of the page, you find this:

Screen Shot 2022-09-21 at 8.14.03 PM.png

What is this? I've heard some people say it's the Ice Palace Noelle was talking about, but... I don't see it. There's no way Dragon Blazers looks like this. Kris has a cell phone--unless Noelle and her dad were using a blue and white Game Boy in Chapter 2, I can't imagine this is how the Ice Palace looks. Furthermore, the audio file that plays in the background is called ocean.ogg, as are all the HTML assets surrounding this blue and white page.

... however.

If you click on the black box (a doorway?) on this page, you're taken to the Ice Palace page. So maybe that's true? Even if it is the Ice Palace, though, that raises more questions. Why is this page's title changed to "AREN'T YOU FORGETTING SOMETHING"? Why? What does that mean for Noelle? Are Spamton and the Ice Palace somehow connected? Did Noelle accidentally powering off her game cause something to happen to Spamton? If so, how?

I'm keeping tabs on this page. This doesn't make a lick of sense.
 

hyprstorm

devils advocate
Joined
Sep 17, 2021
Messages
156
Reaction score
316
Awards
48
as someone who only played undertale and doesn't know anything about deltarune, im thinking the answer to all these issues is probably just gaster :CoolKong:
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

nobodyhere

Since I don't know anything outside of what I've watched on game theory like 5 years ago, what's your opinion on sans = ness
It's a cool idea, but almost certainly wrong. Methinks sans is from Deltarune: evidence is his lab with the picture of three people and the phrase "Don't forget" written on it
 

hyprstorm

devils advocate
Joined
Sep 17, 2021
Messages
156
Reaction score
316
Awards
48
new theory: deltarune takes place before undertale, you are playing as chara, gaster dating simulator when???
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Similar threads