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[Shit-Lord]

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[Shit-Lord]

is-not-real times has fucking wrote an article supporting the HTS and the Syrian Salvation Government even though both of these groups still have jihadist influence.

ngl, if bin laden wanted to spread his religious fundamentalism all over the middle east he should have just joined mossad

 

[SparkyWilson]

Its likely to cock block Iran from having access to the ports in the Mediterranean sea nothing more nothing less.

 

[あ-L-る]

 

[LiraTirsoCaduceo]

The Syrian civil-war disrupted Syria's production of traditional Latakia tobacco, blenders have to use Latakia from Cyprus. I hope once the government gets the situation under control I can finally taste real Syrian Latakia.

 

[Shit-Lord]

assad has just fled Syria (sorry apparently he just fled Damascus but the Syrian regime refuses this) this thread has immediately lost its purpose.

it's joever for Russia and the axis of resistance. what a fucking year for the Middle East

 

[あ-L-る]

assad has just fled Syria this thread has immediately lost its purpose.

it's joever for Russia and the axis of resistance. what a fucking year for the Middle East

This is the worst day ever for the most retarded MLs on the Internet. That makes me happy.

I wonder how will the new government deal with the other factions (mainly Rojava). The guy leading it seems to be smarter than you average islamist, so that's a plus.

 

[LiraTirsoCaduceo]

assad has just fled Syria (sorry apparently he just fled Damascus but the Syrian regime refuses this) this thread has immediately lost its purpose.

it's joever for Russia and the axis of resistance. what a fucking year for the Middle East

 

[Dead Star]

This is the worst day ever for the most retarded MLs on the Internet. That makes me happy.

A video I have saved for years that I love to put at these idiots.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07xZaYOZ5vU

 

[Dead Star]

Its likely to cock block Iran from having access to the ports in the Mediterranean sea nothing more nothing less.

The Iranian regime is in deep fucking shit.

The only foreign policy issue that Trump will take seriously is dealing with them. They knew this, and it's why they have tried to assassinate him.

In his first term, Trump took out Soleimani and he bankrupted the regime with his sanctions. He was tough on them after they spent 8 years of Obama's cowardly appeasement towards them.

US policy towards Iran became a mess when Obama entered office with his infinite wisdom and pushed his ridiculous idea of the middle east realignment. The Iran nuclear deal is one of the dumbest things ever pushed in US foreign policy. Trump put a stop to it, only for Biden to come in and unleash billions of dollars to Iran and try to restart it.

This idea that we can appease enemies by giving them free money and being nice to them, is complete insanity and a fantasy only the Obama Dems believe. Ben Rhodes is still on Twitter all these years later sucking up to Iran. Fact is, no Democrat has truly understood the middle east since Bill Clinton.

With Assad falling, this is the first major domino for the regime in Tehran to fall. They have said this as far back as 2013 that keeping Assad is crucial for their own regime.

The Iranian people hate the regime that holds them hostage. They came close to challenging the government in 2020 when they had an uprising. They're getting closer and closer.

For the sake of the Iranians I know who moved to the US after the revolution, I hope they can live to see a day their home country is free.

 

[stair_fail]

I think this is going to end very badly for everyone involved. Thankfully Trump is president so when ISIS 2: Electric Boogaloo arises from the inevitable 2nd (?) civil war resulting in these "moderate rebel" coalitions no longer having a common enemy, he can hopefully just drop a MOAB on their high command rather than dragging out for 4 years like ObamBox.

While my copium says Damascus will hold, I think it's going to be interesting to see what the messaging will be should the Assad regime collapse. Are we going to be letting thousands upon thousands of regime supporters like we did back in 2013, or is our sympathy only for the people who'd rather live under the Jihadists?

 

[Dead Star]

Never forget they handed this man a Nobel peace prize for these disastrous policies that displaced millions of people and escalated all tensions.

Obama will go down in history as one of the worst US presidents ever for his foreign policy alone. We would be in a completely different timeline right now if he didn't get re-elected in 2012.

 

[Math Equal Angelic Mantra]

My hope is these Jihadis really are just cover for Turkey, so we don't get situation where some "Brave fighters of the Mujaheddin" devolving into a Taliban. The Turks are pricks on the global stage, but they have the best track record historically in terms of handling the region, and I'd rather work with them than The House of Saud.

Obama will go down in history as one of the worst US presidents ever for his foreign policy alone. We would be in a completely different timeline right now if he didn't get re-elected in 2012.

You have to remember the state of the country during the bulk of Obama's years, where the post-9/11 jingoism wore off and we were fatigued from Iraq and Afghanistan. But the Arab Spring that was so celebrated at the time (and I have to imagine we at the very least gave significant financial and logistical support) was an absolute disaster. I think only one Arab country managed to transition to being a liberal democracy, with the rest falling to perpetual civil war, theocracies, or returning to dictatorships.

 

[SparkyWilson]

The Iranian regime is in deep fucking shit.

Its not just Iran, Russia also uses those port city's in Syria and has an air base there as well. Russia uses the air base as a stop over for sending assets to Africa.

recent update on group movements and who's involved(understanding war does have a western bias):
https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-december-7-2024

My hope is these Jihadis really are just cover for Turkey, so we don't get situation where some "Brave fighters of the Mujaheddin" devolving into a Taliban. The Turks are pricks on the global stage, but they have the best track record historically in terms of handling the region, and I'd rather work with them than The House of Saud.

Its a bunch of different rebel groups with differing ideological goals, it looks like the main attack from the HTS was green lite and backed by Turkey and other rebel groups just dog piled in. I just hope by the time the dust settles trump is in office and they can broker out some kinda deal with the rebel groups to keep them from turning on each other,

 

[Parzival]

Syria? You mean Greater Israel?

 

[Dead Star]

You have to remember the state of the country during the bulk of Obama's years, where the post-9/11 jingoism wore off and we were fatigued from Iraq and Afghanistan. But the Arab Spring that was so celebrated at the time (and I have to imagine we at the very least gave significant financial and logistical support) was an absolute disaster. I think only one Arab country managed to transition to being a liberal democracy, with the rest falling to perpetual civil war, theocracies, or returning to dictatorships.

None of that has anything to do with Obama's foreign policy decisions which were just terrible all around. He truly is one of the worst US presidents ever and it is in his foreign policy that future history books will judge him for his failures.

There were anti-war voices in both parties who saw his middle east realignment ideas as being complete insanity, cause it was. Looking back at it now, practically all of his foreign policy decisions backfired in spectacular ways. Obama and Merkel deserve the most blame for why the west has become so weak in the face of our enemies and making the world a much more dangerous place.

Appeasement towards enemies and giving them money, thinking they'll be nice to you just does not work. It don't work in real life, and in geopolitics, it is insanity. The fact that Biden's admin was basically Obama 3.0 with these same strategies in the 2020s, shows they didn't learn from their mistakes.

I've posted this article before about how the Biden admin is crawling with Iranian spies. Robert Malley should be on trial for treason right now. Many of these people were part of the Obama administration. After all, they gave us the genius that is Ben Rhodes whom I mentioned in previous posts. I could post other stuff regarding this. John Kerry was big into the Iranian realignment as well.

Obama didn't have to remove all sanctions from Iran, and giving them money to funnel into their terror proxies. That is what he did. When Trump entered office, it all stopped, only for Biden to get in and do it all over again.

The regime in Tehran will fall in the future, and it will be like the Soviet Union collapsing in 1991. The days of doing reruns of Jimmy Carter style weak ass, cucked US foreign policy are over.

 

[Shit-Lord]

Syria is in full opposition control, like I said earlier ASS-ad has fled Damascus. Syria is free

 

[あ-L-る]

Syria is in full opposition control, like I said earlier ASS-ad has fled Damascus. Syria is free
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Ba'athism is dead, and pan-arabism too, at least for some time. It might as well be one of the non-western ideologies from the Cold War that lasted the most, from Nasser (pan-arabism only) to Hussein to Assad.

As for the last one, he won't be missed.

 

[Shit-Lord]

is-not-real has started to invade Syria through the Golan Heights, also ASS-hat might have died in a plane crash (not confirmed)

 

[Creechan12]

Assad apparently landed in Russia fine, I wonder if Assad will have any loyal followers to throw some exiled Syrians into the Ukrainian meat grinder.