Ted Kaczynski found Dead in prison cell

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Didn't know Agora Road had so many teenaged true crime podcast enthusiast the way you're fangirling over a serial killer lol.
But seriously:

Poor dude was sick in the head at best and just a massive narcissistic asshole at worst so I'm glad justice was served eventually and he spent his life in prison. Killing three innocent people and maiming many others should warrant a little more disdain for this fucker but I guess he was right about modern tech turning people into idiots.
His writing and ideas are worth discussing but that in no way redeems any of his horrible actions and ironically, people calling him based for his violence are more or less just proving his manifesto in that modern tech turned them into uncompassionate mouth breathers.
Whenever I see people online who really celebrate the guy I can only think of how people (especially) zoomers just don philosophy so quickly as an aesthetic.
They add a -core or -wave to it and post a few images/quotes online et voila, the zoomer adorned themselves with a hip new identity, that's easily exchanged for the hot new craze in a year or two. This superficial shit works nowhere as easy as online where just copy pasting a few images and lines of texts for your profile or social media page is effortless.


He writes that technology has had a destabilizing effect on society, has made life unfulfilling, and has caused widespread psychological suffering.[77] Kaczynski argues that most people spend their time engaged in useless pursuits because of technological advances; he calls these "surrogate activities", wherein people strive toward artificial goals, including scientific work, consumption of entertainment, political activism and following sports teams

Personally, I don't fully subscribe to most of that (or rather his proposed solutions) but when I see people online being really fond of him I tend to notice that they're not rarely the type of tech consumer Ted lamented. Posting online about how much you agree with Ted's manifesto is just a little bit too contradictory for me. I don't think I should be able to find someone who wholeheartedly agrees with the manifesto online if all places. Either that or it really is just the performative virtue signal.

There probably is a clever way to rationalize tech use and being a fan of his ideas simultaneously but it just doesn't convince me. Just like Jesus said that telling everyone what a good Christian you are is contradictory to his teachings so I immediately identify online Christians as merely wearing costumes for clout.

I wrote and rewrote this post but I've got nothing to add, you hit the nail on the head. Edgy teens are gonna be reductive and basic.

What was really interesting was how in a lot of articles they described Epstein as a "wealthy financier" and not as "famous pedophile from pedoisland". From PBS:


"Kaczynski's death comes as the federal Bureau of Prisons has faced increased scrutiny in the last several years following the death of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein, who also died by suicide in a federal jail in 2019."

Google that exact sentence and it brings up a ton of news sites. Someone somewhere is eager to change the general online zeitgeist to be that Jeffrey Epstein was just some wealthy guy who died by suicide.
 
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you're fangirling over a serial killer lol.
Sometimes I wish I was normal so I could fanboy over war criminal politicians or p3do actors like everyone else :Cokebaka:
 
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Didn't know Agora Road had so many teenaged true crime podcast enthusiast the way you're fangirling over a serial killer lol.
But seriously:

Poor dude was sick in the head at best and just a massive narcissistic asshole at worst so I'm glad justice was served eventually and he spent his life in prison. Killing three innocent people and maiming many others should warrant a little more disdain for this fucker but I guess he was right about modern tech turning people into idiots.
His writing and ideas are worth discussing but that in no way redeems any of his horrible actions and ironically, people calling him based for his violence are more or less just proving his manifesto in that modern tech turned them into uncompassionate mouth breathers.
Whenever I see people online who really celebrate the guy I can only think of how people (especially) zoomers just don philosophy so quickly as an aesthetic.
They add a -core or -wave to it and post a few images/quotes online et voila, the zoomer adorned themselves with a hip new identity, that's easily exchanged for the hot new craze in a year or two. This superficial shit works nowhere as easy as online where just copy pasting a few images and lines of texts for your profile or social media page is effortless.


He writes that technology has had a destabilizing effect on society, has made life unfulfilling, and has caused widespread psychological suffering.[77] Kaczynski argues that most people spend their time engaged in useless pursuits because of technological advances; he calls these "surrogate activities", wherein people strive toward artificial goals, including scientific work, consumption of entertainment, political activism and following sports teams

Personally, I don't fully subscribe to most of that (or rather his proposed solutions) but when I see people online being really fond of him I tend to notice that they're not rarely the type of tech consumer Ted lamented. Posting online about how much you agree with Ted's manifesto is just a little bit too contradictory for me. I don't think I should be able to find someone who wholeheartedly agrees with the manifesto online if all places. Either that or it really is just the performative virtue signal.

There probably is a clever way to rationalize tech use and being a fan of his ideas simultaneously but it just doesn't convince me. Just like Jesus said that telling everyone what a good Christian you are is contradictory to his teachings so I immediately identify online Christians as merely wearing costumes for clout.
andy kaufman based as usual. dude wrote what would be a tame 4chan post today and killed computer programmers. of course liberals would act like he's a godsend hero. :CryLaughing:
 
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"So I got caught up hard in the tomboy craze that started a few years ago. Unironically I think tomboys are best girls and the ideal partner. Somewhat separate from that but still deeply related is the sudden interest in girls with abs, or just like toned and strong girls in general. So when I was in high school, I watched this anime about mermaids and one of the characters was this mermaid with abs, and that activated something in me back then. Seeing this really niche fetish suddenly become super popular was an unexpected but welcome surprise (for me)." - @kodeb8
 
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"So I got caught up hard in the tomboy craze that started a few years ago. Unironically I think tomboys are best girls and the ideal partner. Somewhat separate from that but still deeply related is the sudden interest in girls with abs, or just like toned and strong girls in general. So when I was in high school, I watched this anime about mermaids and one of the characters was this mermaid with abs, and that activated something in me back then. Seeing this really niche fetish suddenly become super popular was an unexpected but welcome surprise (for me)." - @kodeb8
What's this got to do with the price of fish?
 
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"So I got caught up hard in the tomboy craze that started a few years ago. Unironically I think tomboys are best girls and the ideal partner. Somewhat separate from that but still deeply related is the sudden interest in girls with abs, or just like toned and strong girls in general. So when I was in high school, I watched this anime about mermaids and one of the characters was this mermaid with abs, and that activated something in me back then. Seeing this really niche fetish suddenly become super popular was an unexpected but welcome surprise (for me)." - @kodeb8
I'm sort of confused by the deep resonance of emotion people have for tomboys?

Is it the media converging on a single subliminal idea and this is the fallout?
In any case, why is this discussion happening in this thread?
 
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Didn't know Agora Road had so many teenaged true crime podcast enthusiast the way you're fangirling over a serial killer lol.
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A response to your post in general,

I think it's right to hold up someone like the unabomber in a positive light. Ted was an intelligent man with points to be made who was adamantly hostile to the qualities of modern civilization which he saw as degrading to human beings. To top it off, unlike most people, he didn't merely sit in an armchair and speculate about it. He was willing to cast the die of his one and only life on those ideas. His daring and vision alone mark him as a nobler sort of man.

I don't think he was deranged or looney. I think he was of sound mind but stronger will and greater intellect than most men, and I think that should be respected.
 

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A response to your post in general,

I think it's right to hold up someone like the unabomber in a positive light. Ted was an intelligent man with points to be made who was adamantly hostile to the qualities of modern civilization which he saw as degrading to human beings. To top it off, unlike most people, he didn't merely sit in an armchair and speculate about it. He was willing to cast the die of his one and only life on those ideas. His daring and vision alone mark him as a nobler sort of man.

I don't think he was deranged or looney. I think he was of sound mind but stronger will and greater intellect than most men, and I think that should be respected.
Killing random innocent people with bombs automatically makes you a deragned looney.

And him honestly believing his methods would change anything makes him extremely stupid. All he achieved was that decades later some antisocial edgelords online worship him on their computers.
 
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Killing random innocent people with bombs automatically makes you a deragned looney.
As far as I know, he didn't kill random people. He targeted particular people who he saw as emblematic of the problem he was writing about.

You can call them innocent if you want, but that's not his perspective. And, in my view, we're (the West generally) a morally bankrupt society which is swirling the drain. Many are outright evil, many more are debauched, and the rest cower in fear and tolerate the spread of the problem without doing anything.

You can't fix deep-rooted problems with passivity and niceness. Or, in other words, to make an omelet, you have to crack some eggs.
 

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As far as I know, he didn't kill random people. He targeted particular people who he saw as emblematic of the problem he was writing about.

You can call them innocent if you want, but that's not his perspective. And, in my view, we're (the West generally) a morally bankrupt society which is swirling the drain. Many are outright evil, many more are debauched, and the rest cower in fear and tolerate the spread of the problem without doing anything.

You can't fix deep-rooted problems with passivity and niceness. Or, in other words, to make an omelet, you have to crack some eggs.
You sound like some sociopathic doomerzoomer.
And your morals are shit.
"They were evil in his eyes so it was ok to kill them"
You're literally one of the evil ones and don't even notice.
 
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You sound like some sociopathic doomerzoomer.
And your morals are shit.
"They were evil in his eyes so it was ok to kill them"
You're literally one of the evil ones and don't even notice.
You reason entirely by making generational stereotypes and hoping that your - what 29, 30 years of age, will impress random Internet goblins.

You live in an evil world, dipshit. One full of lies and untruths and malicious conspiracies. You decided that you would self-moderate from a right-wing position into a more milquetoast one because it appeals more to retards whose opinions are the death of civilizations.

You have no principles, no ideas about the world that you are willing to stand for. You're a spineless ironist who's willing to sell out for a couple pieces of silver.
 

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You reason entirely by making generational stereotypes and hoping that your - what 29, 30 years of age, will impress random Internet goblins.
Struck a nerve, eh?

You live in an evil world, dipshit. One full of lies and untruths and malicious conspiracies.
Nope. My world is bright because I have friends, a girlfriend, a stable career and live in a first world country and have IRL hobbies that don't glue me to a screen where tons of zoomerdoomers psuh ragebait to the top via algorithms that cloud my perception of the world.

You decided that you would self-moderate from a right-wing position into a more milquetoast one because it appeals more to retards whose opinions are the death of civilizations.
No, I went away from chudgroids like you because I realized that you're just a different side of the same coin: political extremists who are extremely unhappy and pessimistic and vent online while having a superiority complex and use "NPC" unironically.


You have no principles, no ideas about the world that you are willing to stand for. You're a spineless ironist who's willing to sell out for a couple pieces of silver
Wow did you read that in a book? But no, you're wrong about me and your little spergout over me thinking killing randos with bombs is immoral is funny.

You see, you're the type of person that drove me away from the right. All doom and gloom and whenever someone disagrees with you he's automatically an enemy. This "you're either with me or you're against me!" type shit is what burned so many bridges of the far left and now rightoids do it too.
I'm sure you'll grow out of it.

You have 2 choices: go choke to death on your massive blackpills or do like your daddy Ted would've wanted and touch some grass.
 
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