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The Last Good Year?

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1999-2000 pre 9/11 were peak glory days to me....miss the simpler days of Lego island and a whole group of us at someone's house for an n64 smash tourney...when blockbuster was still the shit and games were worth the rental and late fee....when little jug juice barrels tasted better....the big new Yorker pizza from the hut was actually massive and awesome...when George Carlin was still alive and providing good societal insight.
 
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Well i used to be depressed some years ago, every year was shittier and shittier to me that i wasn't capable of remembering when i had a good year or a good life beyond childhood, but with the time i learned to care only for me and my family, to hell with society and people, i learned to love myself, how to improve me, how to be a better man day by day, go to the gym, study harder, doing hobbies and enjoying every single one of them, learning that i only need myself to be happy and fulfilled, throught many suffering i learned to be a better version of myself, and to this day i keep on learning.

To make it simple buddy, i don't have a "last good year" because right now, every year is good year.


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Completely agree. Perhaps I'm too young and naive to be blackpilled, yet even with clown's world circus parading in every city across the world, I look back at the hell that was depression and I just feel happy where I am. Learning to take care of yourself is a very underrated skill and something I still struggle with. In these times of decay, the only thing left to do is to focus on your immediate environment, yourself, your family, your religion, your friends, and your community. Focusing on politics is addictive cause it gives the illusion you're somehow part of the game, that you can influence the grand scheme of things. For the vast majority of us, that simply won't happen.
 
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Completely agree. Perhaps I'm too young and naive to be blackpilled, yet even with clown's world circus parading in every city across the world, I look back at the hell that was depression and I just feel happy where I am. Learning to take care of yourself is a very underrated skill and something I still struggle with. In these times of decay, the only thing left to do is to focus on your immediate environment, yourself, your family, your religion, your friends, and your community. Focusing on politics is addictive cause it gives the illusion you're somehow part of the game, that you can influence the grand scheme of things. For the vast majority of us, that simply won't happen.
I'm young and naive, super zoomer 2002 gang, and i took the black pill, believe me worst mistake ever, now i managed to overcome that phase and starting to enjoy life even more how it is, so you should never take the blackpill, because it would hurt yourself, i know you can do it, do whatever the hell makes you want to improve in life, do not let the internet rot your mind, there is a big big world out there, so, make it worth it!!!
 
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A lot of people in here are very fond of, let's call it pre-globohomo social media. Of course, it's not an uncommon assertion to say that the sort of unregulated access to technology and social media was going to inevitably lead to our current issues. I know too little to give an answer to this, could we have maintained the freedom, creativity, and nourishment that the early internet gave. Of course, assuming all of those were true. I don't know. What went wrong and was it destined to go wrong?

Like many others have pointed out, the current web feels soulless, zombie-like. Everything leads back to the same websites, where most opinions feel so devoid of any depth and nuance, and partly because of how everyone wants to feel deep and nuanced. Of course, I understand the irony. But I do try to keep my opinions inside my head unless I feel like I'm adding something to the conversation.

I think one tangent one can pick apart on the issue of the lack of intellectual creativity in social media is the contradiction of everything feeling the same, and then the fact that everyone in social media is obsessed with being as unique as possible. Queer identities, regardless of how sincere they are, are overrepresented online in part because of this, I believe. The vast majority of young people want to feel unique, novel, and rebellious but don't know how to, so they latch to a superficial signifier of the individualization they desire, that might or might not be there.

(I'm not trying to comment on the validity of LGBT identities, only the tired queer aesthetic one can find everywhere from Disney to most Twitter bios)

As I can only speak for zoomers, we've been from a young age taught by media, schools and probably even our parents that you are very special, you should be proud of your uniqueness, and that those who go against society will somehow be rewarded at the end by being shown to be in the right path of history. Of course, this narrative trope is all too tired and difficult to maintain at this point, it's hard to believe you're being rebellious for attaching yourself to a superficial sexual identity when every global corporation outside of China and the Arab world can't shut up their virtue signal parade on pride. The whole concept of Pride has become quite queer to understand (Ha). From what I understand talking to lgbt activists, pride in your sexuality shouldn't be taken as something intrinsic, but rather pride in who you are against a society that hates your identity. At this point, I think most fans of queer aesthetics would just admit they're taking Pride to mean pride of their sexuality. If so, I find it silly to be prideful of something you were born with.

Honestly, it looks to me that the concept of being rebellious is hard to maintain because what there's to rebel against? If you want to rebel against the current progressive establishment, you will most likely end up as some sort of conservative. This is not a very attractive position for most who are inclined to rebellion. So I think the ever-growing list of articles on the gender-wiki is just an attempt to queer the original idea of queer in order to feel a sense of unique identity, since all the other signifiers most people used as part of identity feel both completely deconstructed and deeply unpopular, country, family, religion, community, etc. The solution is to go back to your most primal sense of identity, like race or sex.

You're not just a lesbian, there are too many lesbians around for you to stand yourself out. You gotta be an aromantic polyamorous lesbian.

I'm using lgbt terminology because that's what I'm more familiar with, being in discord groups. But I'm sure you can point at a similar phenomenon on the right and how some sector handle the idea of race as the ultimate signifier of who you are. These primal identities feel to me like only a sign of decay. People are becoming more primitive in their ways of thinking, and thus you see the effects of that in wider society and social media.
 
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2014, I would say. I was still more carefree than I am now, and to me it felt like it was just before the internet turned into a complete cesspool. I see videos from 2014 on Youtube for example and they still have that old-Youtube feel to them. I guess 2016 was not a bad year for me either but things started to go downhill there, and the internet was rotting by then.
Seeing the internet AI try to replicate old Youtube makes me gag.
 
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I'm young and naive, super zoomer 2002 gang, and i took the black pill, believe me worst mistake ever, now i managed to overcome that phase and starting to enjoy life even more how it is, so you should never take the blackpill, because it would hurt yourself, i know you can do it, do whatever the hell makes you want to improve in life, do not let the internet rot your mind, there is a big big world out there, so, make it worth it!!!
Based. As long as no major bad event happens in your life, every year is a good year if you can appreciate the people and things around you. Reject ideology, think for yourself and don't let the world affect your outlook in life. Ironically, in contrast to what most people have to say, the last 'bad year' for me was in 2019.

I think one tangent one can pick apart on the issue of the lack of intellectual creativity in social media is the contradiction of everything feeling the same, and then the fact that everyone in social media is obsessed with being as unique as possible. Queer identities, regardless of how sincere they are, are overrepresented online in part because of this, I believe. The vast majority of young people want to feel unique, novel, and rebellious but don't know how to, so they latch to a superficial signifier of the individualization they desire, that might or might not be there.
Identifying with a group can be detrimental to the development of a young person's personality; you would associate all the values and ideals of that group to yourself, betraying your true self in the process. As if each of us weren't different individuals with different lives and individual thought.
 
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Identifying with a group can be detrimental to the development of a young person's personality; you would associate all the values and ideals of that group to yourself, betraying your true self in the process. As if each of us weren't different individuals with different lives and individual thought.
Identifying as an individual can be detrimental to the development of a young person into their tribe; you wouldn't associate all the values and ideals of that group to yourself, betraying your group in the process. As if our tribe wasn't comprised of different individuals with different lives and individual thought who put group cohesion over selfishness.
 
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A lot of people in here are very fond of, let's call it pre-globohomo social media. Of course, it's not an uncommon assertion to say that the sort of unregulated access to technology and social media was going to inevitably lead to our current issues. I know too little to give an answer to this, could we have maintained the freedom, creativity, and nourishment that the early internet gave. Of course, assuming all of those were true. I don't know. What went wrong and was it destined to go wrong?

Like many others have pointed out, the current web feels soulless, zombie-like. Everything leads back to the same websites, where most opinions feel so devoid of any depth and nuance, and partly because of how everyone wants to feel deep and nuanced. Of course, I understand the irony. But I do try to keep my opinions inside my head unless I feel like I'm adding something to the conversation.

I think one tangent one can pick apart on the issue of the lack of intellectual creativity in social media is the contradiction of everything feeling the same, and then the fact that everyone in social media is obsessed with being as unique as possible. Queer identities, regardless of how sincere they are, are overrepresented online in part because of this, I believe. The vast majority of young people want to feel unique, novel, and rebellious but don't know how to, so they latch to a superficial signifier of the individualization they desire, that might or might not be there.

(I'm not trying to comment on the validity of LGBT identities, only the tired queer aesthetic one can find everywhere from Disney to most Twitter bios)

As I can only speak for zoomers, we've been from a young age taught by media, schools and probably even our parents that you are very special, you should be proud of your uniqueness, and that those who go against society will somehow be rewarded at the end by being shown to be in the right path of history. Of course, this narrative trope is all too tired and difficult to maintain at this point, it's hard to believe you're being rebellious for attaching yourself to a superficial sexual identity when every global corporation outside of China and the Arab world can't shut up their virtue signal parade on pride. The whole concept of Pride has become quite queer to understand (Ha). From what I understand talking to lgbt activists, pride in your sexuality shouldn't be taken as something intrinsic, but rather pride in who you are against a society that hates your identity. At this point, I think most fans of queer aesthetics would just admit they're taking Pride to mean pride of their sexuality. If so, I find it silly to be prideful of something you were born with.

Honestly, it looks to me that the concept of being rebellious is hard to maintain because what there's to rebel against? If you want to rebel against the current progressive establishment, you will most likely end up as some sort of conservative. This is not a very attractive position for most who are inclined to rebellion. So I think the ever-growing list of articles on the gender-wiki is just an attempt to queer the original idea of queer in order to feel a sense of unique identity, since all the other signifiers most people used as part of identity feel both completely deconstructed and deeply unpopular, country, family, religion, community, etc. The solution is to go back to your most primal sense of identity, like race or sex.

You're not just a lesbian, there are too many lesbians around for you to stand yourself out. You gotta be an aromantic polyamorous lesbian.

I'm using lgbt terminology because that's what I'm more familiar with, being in discord groups. But I'm sure you can point at a similar phenomenon on the right and how some sector handle the idea of race as the ultimate signifier of who you are. These primal identities feel to me like only a sign of decay. People are becoming more primitive in their ways of thinking, and thus you see the effects of that in wider society and social media.
I really feel for young people these days, I wouldn't know how to navigate it.

I count myself lucky that I'm old enough so that no one in my social circles think its weird that I'm mostly checked out from social media and web 2.0.

Life is hard, frustrating, confusing no matter what. Its always a danger when "the culture", or "the man" or "society" tries to point all of this feeling toward specific social/political viewpoints.
 
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I think that year when everything went to shit is 2013, with the launch of the eighth generation of consoles or sooner, arround 2011.
Everything went souless and empty...

The last good year for me is maybe 2010 and the worst year is 2016.

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This impressive hate-fueled rant was written originally in 1992 by Jim Goad for the Answer Me! magazine. But it could pretty much be written today.

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-THE UNDERGROUND IS A LIE-


You don't shock me. 1 shudder with boredom at everything you do, from tattooing your dick to chewing on your own poop. Not only have I seen all of your weak gestures before, I've seen them done better.

You remind me of someone I knew in college. His name was Mark. Pale, unshaven, and wearing his dishwater-colored hair in a Mohawk, Mark was an anarchist. He railed against the corporate elite and cheered for the collective. Projecting himself as his own mascot, he defaced hundreds of buildings with a goofy cartoon drawing of a Mohawk-wearing anarchist. The back of his leather jacket had an anarchy 'A' crudely daubed in white paint. Mark could be seen around town clustered with similarly disaffected youth, drinking out of paper bags, committing petty acts of vandalism, and plotting America's overthrow.

Unfortunately, Mark's parents were publishing magnates who had tucked away forty thousand dollars in stock for their baby anarchist. I once watched Mark transform into a sobbing bitch when he lost a bootleg cassette of his favorite hardcore band. Despite his lowlife appearance, he was a rich boy with the time and money to act poor. So were all of his friends. So are all of the people who consider themselves "alternative." Mark-you remind me of him.

Like Mark, your underground is strictly an upper-class phenom. You're a body-pierced, hair-dyeing, chain-smoking, whip-carrying FAKE, a little bitchy snitch who hasn't been hit enough. Your black eyeliner, rubber pants, and asymmetrical hairdo are a post-pubescent way of playing costume. You can't handle the guilt of your comfortable background, so you commit the heinous crime of slumming. No one worships trash in the slums, where they have to eat and breathe it daily. In poor neighborhoods, weirdness invites violence. Yet a blue-blooded nabob like you acts triflingly eccentric and considers it radical.

The "creative community" doesn't consist of the most creative people; you're the ones with the most spare time to create, those whose parents tolerate-and often finance-your flighty pursuits. What usually passes for art is just the idle noodling of the leisure class.

Your gizzard ululates with, "You sellout!" Well, the wealthy are the only ones who can afford NOT to sell out. Yes, there are a holy few who have refused cash when it's been dangled in front of them-they're called 'masochists.' If you're still reading this, you're a masochist, too. By the time I'm done with you, you'll reconsider your opposition to law enforcement.

In your typically egocentric way, you pretend you're the vanguard, freeing the oppressed from the shackles of ignorance. You conduct a sorry crusade to recast the world in your image. You're dumb enough to think you'll make a difference. You feel that if everyone was like you, society would be wonderful. Yet you walk away scratching your head when the truly oppressed don't want anything to do with you. You've never fought for anything but the right to be infantile.

If patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels, political rhetoric is a cubbyhole for dullards. The political is merely the personal in a cheap, quivering act of sublimation. You oppose power, which is like protesting the sun-scream all you want, but it'll still scorch you. As you cry about global warming, global corporations, and global revolution, I stare into the vacant globes of your eyes. The only anarchy going on is the mutinous misfiring of your brain cells. The 'A' stands for "asshole."

You whine about your "sexuality," how your body is a political combat zone. You're a simple rodent with boring bodily functions which you seek to ennoble. With your flagrant vanity and dishonesty in personal interactions, you reveal yourself to be equally as rotten as the leaders you despise. You invariably wind up imitating the oppressor. Unfortunately, you weren't oppressed to begin with.

For not only are you a liar, you're a hypocrite. You're fascinated by violence until you're confronted with it. You romanticize trauma but have never been traumatized. You demand grant money from a government you seek to destroy. You idolize primitive cultures but would slash your wrists if your CD player broke. You condemn religion but consider yourself enlightened. You're as self-righteous as the moralists upon which you spit. You hate hatred, won't tolerate intolerance, and conspire with others against conformity.

All your cohorts are hypocrites, too. Feminists don't degrade, objectify, and stereotype men? Socialists aren't elitists? Environmentalists don't drive cars? A pox upon all your houses. I'd wish for a rat to bite your ass and give you the Black Plague, but you'd probably consider it a fashion statement.

While you slurp the dick of political correctness, your amber asshole is being torn asunder by aesthetic correctness. You flush your self-respect down the toilet while scrambling to obey the edicts of boho taste. You're frightened senseless that others will think you're uncool. You'd rather swallow whale sperm than admit you like disco, Chicken McNuggets, or Love Connection. You're frozen with fear that someone will realize what little you have to say. You squirm in the face of your own dullness. You are a prisoner of the underground, a hostage of your own creative retardation. Ideas emerge from your head stillborn.

Your rebelliousness is laid out for you like the portions of a TV dinner. You ape the powers that be with every clove-scented breath you take. You are nothing more than socioeconomic ectoplasm, a target market, a file folder at Central Casting. You exist as a parasite, because without an Establishment for you to oppose, you'd shrivel into cellular waste. Try as you may to avoid being absorbed by the mainstream, you remain trapped under its microscope, an amoeba with a nose ring.

This isn't an apologia for the mainstream, not by any stretch. Those who seek to defend it might as well believe in the Easter Bunny, too. The mainstream's models of reality are chunky and obsolete, just like yours. To attack it is too easy, like stealing crutches from a cripple. I'll leave those tactics to cowards such as you.

True psychos stand alone. The only pioneers are those who give voice to the ugliest corridors of their unconscious without fear of censure from any quarter. The acts that ordinary people commit behind closed doors are beyond the ken of any performance artist. Humans' innate weirdness is far more threatening and entertaining than anything the professional shock mavens could conjure.

I boggle your conception of a world split between cognoscenti and squares. I subvert the subversives and bury the underground under six feet of its own hypocritical manure. I perform unsolicited tattooing, body-piercing, and ritual scarification upon you.

Give vent to your sickest fantasies, but don't call it art. Cornhole Barbara Bush, but only if you want to. Sketch your astrological chart with your own feces, but only if it feels good. If you want to do something truly radical, kill yourself. We'll have one less reader, but the world will be a better place.
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This is the most Gen-X thing I've read in quite a while. Reminds of an edgier David Foster Wallace - my god think how much better the world would be if we still had him. Rereading Infinite Jest a year or two ago, all I could think was "what he think of the actual modern times."
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It started when feminists began complaining about manspreading in 2013 and it's gotten shittier ever since.
 
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2023 and early 2024. Everything seemed to go even shittier, and shittier, and shittier... It was one of the most bland, soulless years of all of history, and it seemed that not only culture, but whole countries were going to reach rock bottom, and then it all resurged back. Late 2024 and 2025 might have been some of the best years ever.
 
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2013. Nearly everything since then has either gone downhill and is a shell of its former self, or is currently in the process of that. Nothing is really more soul crushing than watching the sites you once visited slowly die out, watching as everyone else gets dumber, and seeing wannabes and grifters becoming the voice of your ideology and ruining it as a result.
 
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2013. Nearly everything since then has either gone downhill and is a shell of its former self, or is currently in the process of that. Nothing is really more soul crushing than watching the sites you once visited slowly die out, watching as everyone else gets dumber, and seeing wannabes and grifters becoming the voice of your ideology and ruining it as a result.
What is the ideology of yours that's being appropriated?
 

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What is the ideology of yours that's being appropriated?
I'm a left wing nationalist, though the main ideas that are being "appropriated" are regarding economics and social issues. Specifically:
  • Social justice
  • Economic Inequality
  • Housing
These issues, and many others, have been hijacked and corrupted by people on platforms such as Twitter and reddit. Any reasonable take or suggestion for a problem is often drowned out by those who either don't understand what they're talking about, are just trying to make a platform they can grift people from, or are a troll. The people I talk with who hold similar beliefs don't want anything extreme, mainly that people should be able to express themselves how they want for the most part, give some aid for those who have a job but struggles with bills, and build more apartments/lofts for those who don't want anything fancy and or just want a low cost place to call home. On platforms like Twitter ideas like these have been morphed into unrealistic pipe-dreams that you must fight for and have to always support or else you'll be harassed. The only part of my ideology that isn't appropriated is the nationalism part because many of these same people can't fathom the idea of left wing nationalism, hell I wouldn't be surprised if some of them try to say I'm not left wing because I'm also nationalist.
 
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I'm a left wing nationalist, though the main ideas that are being "appropriated" are regarding economics and social issues. Specifically:
  • Social justice
  • Economic Inequality
  • Housing
These issues, and many others, have been hijacked and corrupted by people on platforms such as Twitter and reddit. Any reasonable take or suggestion for a problem is often drowned out by those who either don't understand what they're talking about, are just trying to make a platform they can grift people from, or are a troll. The people I talk with who hold similar beliefs don't want anything extreme, mainly that people should be able to express themselves how they want for the most part, give some aid for those who have a job but struggles with bills, and build more apartments/lofts for those who don't want anything fancy and or just want a low cost place to call home. On platforms like Twitter ideas like these have been morphed into unrealistic pipe-dreams that you must fight for and have to always support or else you'll be harassed. The only part of my ideology that isn't appropriated is the nationalism part because many of these same people can't fathom the idea of left wing nationalism, hell I wouldn't be surprised if some of them try to say I'm not left wing because I'm also nationalist.
You're a nationalist and a socialist?
 
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