The Last Good Year?

[Some_porcupine]

I'm a left wing nationalist, though the main ideas that are being "appropriated" are regarding economics and social issues. Specifically:

• Social justice
• Economic Inequality
• Housing

These issues, and many others, have been hijacked and corrupted by people on platforms such as Twitter and reddit. Any reasonable take or suggestion for a problem is often drowned out by those who either don't understand what they're talking about, are just trying to make a platform they can grift people from, or are a troll.

The people I talk with who hold similar beliefs don't want anything extreme, mainly that people should be able to express themselves how they want for the most part, give some aid for those who have a job but struggles with bills, and build more apartments/lofts for those who don't want anything fancy and or just want a low cost place to call home.

On platforms like Twitter ideas like these have been morphed into unrealistic pipe-dreams that you must fight for and have to always support or else you'll be harassed. The only part of my ideology that isn't appropriated is the nationalism part because many of these same people can't fathom the idea of left wing nationalism, hell I wouldn't be surprised if some of them try to say I'm not left wing because I'm also nationalist.

https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.p...ts-effects-on-western-culture.6270/post-94550 etc.
https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.p...go-traps-of-gen-echo-chambers.6203/post-94091 and full thread
https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.p...go-traps-of-gen-echo-chambers.6203/post-94873 (underground is fake)

 

[imnotdeadyet]

Looking at it objectivly? 2007.

The last year where progress in the region seemed to have been made and that there was a brighter future ahead. But then 2008 happened and I've been in 2008 ever since.

Last good year for me personally was 2019, pre Corona. When corona and the pandemic started most of my plans went to shit and I've kinda been on a downward spiral ever since.

 

[RisingThumb]

Looking at it objectivly? 2007.

There is no objective answer to this question, as it lies upon each person's idea of good, bad to them.

To some 2021 was terrible with Covid. To some, the effects of Covid upon society were beneficial. To some 2023, was terrible with Israel vs Palestine. To some(Lockheed Martin investors) it was excellent. Why do you try to portray a year as objectively good? How can you represent it as objective?

 

[imnotdeadyet]

There is no objective answer to this question, as it lies upon each person's idea of good, bad to them.

I meant objectively for me and the majority of the region i reside in, not the entire world and every person obviously. I say objectively because what i say is backed up by actual quantifiable statistics on top of having my own reasons (2008), while post 2019 is bad for more subjective and personal reasons. And besides OP didn't ask about every single person in the world but for our reasons about why a year is "the last good one".

Objective was probably not the right word to use here anyways, my bad.

 

[【ｄｉｅｔ ｄｅｉｔｙ】]

crazy. been offsite for months and the moment I saw this thread title, for no particular reason, really, I thought, "2007". and then that was the 2nd post on most recent page, so obviously it is factually correct

 

[brentw]

I noticed the sharp downward turn in 2014.
In retrospect it had been building up before that.

But early 2014 is definitely when I realized some big things had changed and the future was beginning to look extremely grim.

 

[Digital Cheese]

2020 it definitely started going downhill, tho it probably started before that

 

[赤い男]

I'm a left wing nationalist, though the main ideas that are being "appropriated" are regarding economics and social issues. Specifically:

• Social justice
• Economic Inequality
• Housing

These issues, and many others, have been hijacked and corrupted by people on platforms such as Twitter and reddit. Any reasonable take or suggestion for a problem is often drowned out by those who either don't understand what they're talking about, are just trying to make a platform they can grift people from, or are a troll. The people I talk with who hold similar beliefs don't want anything extreme, mainly that people should be able to express themselves how they want for the most part, give some aid for those who have a job but struggles with bills, and build more apartments/lofts for those who don't want anything fancy and or just want a low cost place to call home. On platforms like Twitter ideas like these have been morphed into unrealistic pipe-dreams that you must fight for and have to always support or else you'll be harassed. The only part of my ideology that isn't appropriated is the nationalism part because many of these same people can't fathom the idea of left wing nationalism, hell I wouldn't be surprised if some of them try to say I'm not left wing because I'm also nationalist.

Yo cumrade, How can one reconcile the simultaneous adherence to both nationalism and socialism? Marxism, rooted in internationalism and the worldwide proletariat, seemingly presents a challenge to such a dual allegiance. Even Stalin's concept of "Socialism in one country" maintained a significant degree of internationalism in its diplomatic approach, enough to not be categorized as "Nationalism". (I mean, he formed the warsaw pact after all, hell people even forget the Comintern was a thing, since, even before the onception of the Union actually), that's why they insisted in calling it "Marxism-Leninism" (Populist as shit) The apparent tension between nationalism and socialism within this ideological framework prompts critical examination, considering the inherent emphasis on global solidarity and cooperation in traditional Marxist principles.

Moreover, the majority of the "pro left-wing nationalism" arguments often fail to resonate or be compatible in first-world countries. This discrepancy arises because the roots of this ideology are embedded in nations that initially lacked a distinct cultural identity, primarily stemming from their post-colonial history. Unless your name happens to be "Jose Joni Melolavo Rosa Melpito" , I find that perspective on Marxism to be somewhat uninformed and a bit distasteful.

Because on god, what you described is literally just Peronism.

 

[赤い男]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW0vphhyfo4

 

[幽邃森林]

2023 was a good year for me with all the opportunities and new friends I encountered.

I'm noticing that many are putting 2010-2015 as the time when "things went into the gutter". I can definitely see why.

A lot of us (at least myself) were shutins who played video games and surfed the web as hobbies. Reality sucked and the internet provided us an escape. But the internet and reality no longer became separate domains with the ubiquity of smartphones.

Today, I think the internet has again diverged from reality because the online experience is now worse than being offline. For many who never developed the social skills to have friends and hobbies offline, the internet is like a sinking ship that's currently in the abyssal zone.

But for me, I'm not on that ship. That's why 2023 is a good year for me. Hopefully more people learn that the fun internet died more than a decade ago, touch grass, then maybe put "2024" as their answer to this thread.

 

[Rübezahl]

2019 (personal)
2015 in general

 

[4d1]

I feel after 2012, end of the Mayan calendar funnily enough, everything became particularly more shit.

my leading theory remains 2012 wasn't "the end" in the global apocalypse kinda way, but in the "that was the last time you really could be human" way

 

[Captain]

2000

The last year of normalcy and optimism. Computers were translucent, mobile phones were in a place where they were only for calls, movies were still projected 100% on film, cars were interesting, people were better to each other, and the world felt huge. There were still problems and I was going through some shit....but I miss the idea of the future from that exact year. It was gonna be great.

 

[Deerhunter]

dont really have a last good year on me really. the last handful of years for me has been tame and regardless of what, the years can be good if you commit to making them good. as best as you can really. i wont be so sure at times but im glad im able to try at all.

 

[brentw]

simultaneous adherence to both nationalism and socialism

 

[Slumber]

Every year brings me a bounty, whether it be personal growth or the joy of watching my friends succeed further in life.

I will admit I do miss the late 2019 - middle of 2021 when things were shut down. Not many people were outside, venues were empty, the world seemed at a standstill. Of course there were a lot of consequences as a result of Covid; But for a Hermit like myself I can say I rather enjoyed the solitude it brought.

Masking wearing becoming part of the dominant culture in the US was nice in its own way; That being that I could stay relatively anonymous out in public.
I'm sure I and many others will become nostalgic for it (for all its weirdness) in the coming years.

 

[Ross_Я]

I definitely say the last good year was somewhere in 2010-2014 period. It all went down from there.

 

[Some_porcupine]

2007

forum.agoraroad.com

 

[Aevisia]

To be on this forum, a literal monument to both the past of the internet and an idealized idea of life 30-40 years ago, you have to have some sort of dissatisfaction with current year. Whether that's not liking current cultural aesthetics, technology, entertainment, sports etc you all have your reasons. I just want to know, what was the last good year? The last year you felt in touch with things, the last year before things became bad?

For me it was probably 2009. 2010 everything started to go downhill from there and never seemed to recover. Life was pretty good between 2000-2009. Everybody didn't hate each other back then, and the internet was a lot more relaxed and creative. At least, that's how I perceived it. I miss it.

 

[mesaprotector]

1993.

Can confirm 1993 was the last good year. I was born in 1994.

Jokes aside, I think the Internet turning to shit was a steady current that turned into a flood in 2016. Not because of any political reasons - that was the year memes became something normies shared with each other. There are still subcultures on the internet and always will be, but the internet as a whole stopped having its own culture separate from that of Western society in 2016. Before that, most people lived irl first and in cyberspace second - since then, there's been no border between the two.

(My own life hasn't really gotten worse, or better, over time. 2020 was one of the more decent years in my life. Hopefully I haven't peaked yet, because if I have, I doubt I'll be around talking about it in a couple decades.)