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it also really skewed a lot on american/anglosphere rightwing, they don't understand a lot of good natured, even some ULTRAORTHODOX CHRISTIANS are ok with using homo soveticus imagery because it evokes a sense of nationalism, just a quirk of slavdom rather than a serious harkoning back to communism
Perhaps but a lot of them still yearn for Communism. Either way he is just blantantly using this to further Russian influence. It's not a cause I can really get behind. I don't believe the future consists of nation states duking it out like it's the colonial era all over again.
 
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Perhaps but a lot of them still yearn for Communism. Either way he is just blantantly using this to further Russian influence. It's not a cause I can really get behind. I don't believe the future consists of nation states duking it out like it's the colonial era all over again.
i just want all secret societies to be obliterated, from there we can work everything else out
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it also really skewed a lot on american/anglosphere rightwing, they don't understand a lot of good natured, even some ULTRAORTHODOX CHRISTIANS are ok with using homo soveticus imagery because it evokes a sense of nationalism, just a quirk of slavdom rather than a serious harkoning back to communism
soviet union was never really communism in the first place. I know that gets said a lot but there's simply so much literature deteailing the turn from communist politics in the stalinist era that it's almost impossible to justify the statement that the ussr was communism.
 
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soviet union was never really communism in the first place. I know that gets said a lot but there's simply so much literature deteailing the turn from communist politics in the stalinist era that it's almost impossible to justify the statement that the ussr was communism.
what it was was still fake and ghey, much like communism so i don't really care, also real communism only really died fully in USSR and other communist countries once berlin wall fell
 
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soviet union was never really communism in the first place. I know that gets said a lot but there's simply so much literature deteailing the turn from communist politics in the stalinist era that it's almost impossible to justify the statement that the ussr was communism.
This argument falls apart because Communism was never properly defined to begin with. All that was consistently said about it was that there was free stuff. The only way to achieve it (from what I remember from das kapital) was to saturate the Earth with some much crap that everything would become free. You can read every book Marx ever wrote and still not get much regarding Communism other than some vague concept of "liberation" and free stuff. It was ultimately based on nothing and thus unattainable by its' own standards.
 
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This argument falls apart because Communism was never properly defined to begin with. All that was consistently said about it was that there was free stuff. The only way to achieve it (from what I remember from das kapital) was to saturate the Earth with some much crap that everything would become free. You can read every book Marx ever wrote and still not get much regarding Communism other than some vague concept of "liberation" and free stuff. It was ultimately based on nothing and thus unattainable by its' own standards.
Communism is when you hate rich people, want censorship in games mixed with liberal propaganda and wish death to all white men. That's why I'm a huge supporter of it.
 
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Communism is when you hate rich people, want censorship in games mixed with liberal propaganda and wish death to all white men. That's why I'm a huge supporter of it.
Communism is whatever you want it to be. Go talk to any Communist org and they will habitually lie to you.
 
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Go talk to any Communist org and they will habitually lie to you.
I actually agree with you, as these things are borderline cults, but I can't group them with the original ideas that came from various socialist or take it seriously when someone says it was based on nothing. It's really wasn't. You had whole books and various texts that made economic and historical arguments that I think mostly hold true to this day. Although if you hate the average currently left leaning person I completely understand you cause they make me want to peel skin off my face too.
 
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it also really skewed a lot on american/anglosphere rightwing, they don't understand a lot of good natured, even some ULTRAORTHODOX CHRISTIANS are ok with using homo soveticus imagery because it evokes a sense of nationalism, just a quirk of slavdom rather than a serious harkoning back to communism
Exactly. It's basically politically correct Patriotism for Putin that is contrasted with the politically incorrect Nationalism that is not in favor of Putin.

Communism is whatever you want it to be. Go talk to any Communist org and they will habitually lie to you.
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At best this whole thread is a bad cringe joke, at worst it violates rule 4. No racist shit on here. This is not /pol/

but hey you probably don't give two shits about my opinions so I guess we'll all just ignore the blatant violations and batshit insane take that will continue to make Agora a laughing stock.
based and follow the rules pls
 
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Perhaps but a lot of them still yearn for Communism. Either way he is just blantantly using this to further Russian influence. It's not a cause I can really get behind. I don't believe the future consists of nation states duking it out like it's the colonial era all over again.
literally what a commie would say
 
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Pretty well I'd say given the annexations. The real question now is when is Ukraine gonna leave Russia?

Areas like Russia's Donbass.
 
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There's a video of one Russian soldier sucking off another one when a drone drops a bomb on them.
The memes have been fantastic
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Tbh Russia should just deploy tactical nukes to defend the Russian territory. Strike Kyiv hard and demand they surrender.
 
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Tbh Russia should just deploy tactical nukes to defend the Russian territory. Strike Kyiv hard and demand they surrender.
And then what? Exist as a phariah state even more disgraced then North Korea?
 
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And then what? Exist as a phariah state even more disgraced then North Korea?
No, they still have friends. BRICS nations end everyone else who is sanctioned by the US. So basically the majority of the population, and the majority of resources.

And North Korea does a lot of trading with China and Russia. One is the leading factory nation and the other has the most resources.
 
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And then what? Exist as a phariah state even more disgraced then North Korea?
buddy he literally believes the referendums were legit and wants Russia to use muh nooks.
 
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I will say that Ukraine should leave the annexed territories. For both the safety of the planet and for the people in those regions who did seem to want to be with Russia. Those were Russian speaking regions who were not having their rights recognised and if Ukraine does not wish to do so then it should give those territories to Russia.
 
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