What do you think would help break the violent crime wave across america?

[Pangolin]

Jailhouse calls reveal 17-year-old complains about paralyzed victim's GoFundMe page

Only 13 Investigates obtained and verified jailhouse phone calls involving the 17-year-old accused of paralyzing a robbery victim.

abc13.com

I think if you are out on bond and you are out victimizing people again, you should take a .45 to the chest
> cheap
> guilt is already established
> and habitual offender status is confirmed

However, this is a world of compassion, so breaking rocks for 20 years under the Mississippi sun is just as restorative. They should be put into a cell that is essentially a deep dark hole that is always either too hot or too cold. Moving from either extreme. And then with a white noise that you can barely hear. Thats the cell. Outside is slavery. License plates, medical experimentation, break rocks. This is true restorative justice. Meaning that it restores civility to our world by jailing.I think this country being so weak on violent crime is an open invitation to vigilante justice and creates a power vacuum.

Mandatory minimums for violent crime starting at 10 years would go a loooong way at keeping violent crime down. Cant offend if they are locked up for a decade.

First time non-violent offenders should not be locked up with societal trash, they should go to a minimum security prison and given a real chance. They should exit with skills and knowledge to become productive. If they behave for a full 3 years they get their offense expunged, its both harsh but fair. If they are on the 20 years, they can help reduce their sentence by volunteering for testing experimental vaccines and really any medical experimentation on a risk basis.

Last, but not least: More judges to process more people and not even give them a bond.

People have called this "facist", okay smart guy what is your take?

 

[Outer Heaven]

Death penalty

 

[Vetusomaru]

Death penalty

Yeah, cuz it worked so well in the past...NOT!

 

[Yabba]

So can it be judge, jury, AND executioner time?

Sidenote, isn't ironic that there's always a ton of crime in the mega cities even with the judges. Albeit this isn't the case in all the comics.

Yeah, cuz it worked so well in the past...NOT!

Actually it depends on time period, civilization, and culture, if anything else.

 

[Jared]

my lawyer has advised me not to officially comment on this matter

 

[赤い男]

Do what western europeans do.

 

[赤い男]

Fun fact, netherlands is closing their prisions due the really low amount of prisioners in their nation, less than 10,000 (for reference, the united states of america has more than 2 million prisioners)
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...-05-13/the-netherlands-is-closing-its-prisons

 

[ignika98]

Actually enforce our already existing laws

 

[Sketch Relics]

Nuke the 5 most violent cities in America, without those the USA is tied for 2nd least violent country.

 

[Shi_dawg]

lets make all violence legal. not only would violent crimes drop to zero, it would also just be a lot more fun.

 

[Caspar]

Abolish the police force. Not because I oppose law and order, but because people need to realize that being a policeman isn't a specialty profession. It's the duty of a free-man. A slave sits comfortably under tyranny - a phrase that sounds hackneyed, but which is true. Whether that tyranny be of criminals or courts. History lesson: police forces didn't exist until the last century and half or so. Scotland Yard didn't exist until 1829. You don't need police to solve crime. You need men to solve crime. If police aren't men, crime doesn't get solved. Hence why we are where we are. They don't deserve the respect they ask for. Though they should deserve respect.

Also, the left is not going to abolish the police, because that's contrary to their actual interests. It's just smoke and mirrors.

 

[赤い男]

Abolish the police force. Not because I oppose law and order

Abolish police, because i oppose law and order, burn loot and pillage everything, blow up nestlé and the corpo shit, the war against the forces of entropy begins now.

 

[Caspar]

Abolish police, because i oppose law and order, burn loot and pillage everything, steal, kill detroy, shoot everyone on sight and claim the city as ours, bomb the senate, the congress, bomb nestlé and the corporations, the right, the left, majorities, minorities, let everything burn to the ground, should the construct itself rot.

 

[omnidisplay]

fixed.

 

[Venomnik0]

View attachment 90575
fixed.

A very comfortable position. CalExit when?

 

[幽邃森林]

When crime started dropping in the 90s and 2000s, Americans in the 2010s took a retrospective and tried to figure out the cause.

- Maybe it was less lead in the air.
- Maybe economic opportunity improved.
- Perhaps legalizing abortions is the cause.
- Could an aging population be another reason?
- Oh, maybe our culture improved with better values.

Then there's the last factor - one that makes left leaning Americans uncomfortable: Crime dropped because we locked a shitton of criminals up in the 80s and threw away the keys.

Criminality follows a Pareto pattern, with 20% of the population committing 80% of the crime. Want to find the murderers and muggers? They'll be found in the same demographic as the petty criminals who shoplift or break and enter.

Social commentator Rob Henderson coined the term "luxury belief", which is an "idea that confers social status on people who hold it but injures others in its practical consequences."

The idea that we shouldn't imprison people with criminal behavior and give out light sentences is a luxury belief.

Many people (like myself) really didn't want the last factor to be the main cause because it signals a type of inferiority or degeneracy in our culture. So we used confounding variables to come up with the conclusion of "I don't know" for the reason of the crime drop.

Now we are releasing these 20% of the population to run rampant and we are paying for it.

We also have the closest example to a real life social experiment testing the idea that locking criminals up en masse = less crime: El Salvador. And that's why left leaning rich Americans dislike El Salvador's policy - not because of human rights, but because it exposes their beliefs as virtue signaling.

So yeah, lock them up or get rid of them somehow I guess.

Or maybe someone can point out a huge flaw in my logic, which would be cool.

 

[containercore]

The problem with incarceration, as it currently works in the US, is that people come out of the system even more unhinged and criminal than when they went in. It just cements and reinforces these antisocial tendencies. You can watch any Louis Theroux documentary where he interviews inmates in various hellhole prisons and see it pretty clearly. They are becoming more criminal through the "correctional" facility, not less. I guess you could lock everyone up forever, but it doesn't address the origins of criminality, which stem from broken homes, lack of opportunity, income disparity etc. I agree, you can't have violent offenders on the streets terrorizing everyday people, but eventually they're let out, and they're even more violent than before.

Severe punishments have been enacted in many places in different eras, the Bloody Code of 1700s England is a famous example. Stealing anything worth more than a shilling was a hanging offence. And there was never any shortage of thieves being hung at Tyburn.

 

[PraxHeadroom]

Not saying it's ethical, only that it would work.

 

[Ashman]

Just divide the prison system into two parts. Low-tier offenders get put into rehab and get taught skills. High chronic offenders get sent to labour camps or get executed. Eh screw just blow the US up.

 

[bnuungus]

Just divide the prison system into two parts. Low-tier offenders get put into rehab and get taught skills. High chronic offenders get sent to labour camps or get executed. Eh screw just blow the US up.

I would be inclined to agree with this except that if you watch any interview with drug addicted homeless people, a large number of them don't really want rehab. Rehab itself can only do so much, you gotta actually want to change for it to be effective.