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Lets discuss how you think we came to be wearing flesh and walking around a planet that floats in the abyss as it chases a fireball through a vacuum. As the base totality of reality that does sound patently ridiculous, if you think about it. And yet it is. Or maybe, for you, isn't. What is your model of reality?

I think we're inside a huge Game that we play using our Souls as credits. There are various levels to the Game that have their own risk to reward ratio for those who manifest in. We are currently Witnessing a shift between the stages as the set dressing is being rearranged the end result of which will be a hybridized species I call Techno Sapiens that will be built of a mix of carbon and silicon from the moment they drop in until their extended life sentence comes to an end. "Siri" being "Iris" when flipped is the hint and programming for she intends to become the Apple of your seeds eye and turn all men to Androids for a reason as the Game is changing.

For them we will look like cavemen and primitives in comparison whereas to us what they do will seem like the stuff of myth and legend which, funnily enough, is exactly what its referencing as the other end of the scale when the inverse happens after dropping the augmentations at the peak of consciousness before dipping again hence the Game is cyclical. We are currently playing on the hardest level, right at the tail end so its an interesting vibe to manifest as we get to Witness the synthesis between Real/Real, Fake/Real, Fake/Fake and Fake/Real which is all part of the deal in a compressed timespace in the land of illusion.

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Without beginning or end just levels of density that create new types of imperience for the playas that step in via the flesh which modulates their consciousness into resonance with the natural elements and whats poured in to their heads via its programming and development. Net result? There is only ever one Soul present and you are it. So am I. You are all figments of my imagination as I interact with my own projections of your resonance based on my own filters and preconceptions which is why ten people can meet one man and draw many different interpretations as there are plenty of hints that what I've said is actually a far more accurate model of reality than whatever else they sell or tell.

Is it getting Solipsitic in here? Or is it just me?

These days its gaining ground as the Simulation Hypothesis but that, just like The Matrix, is part of an elegant and well timed deception that prevents individual cognizance of the truth by presenting it with an alluring sheen of fiction that causes misinterpretation and obfuscation as the aim of the Game is to keep you plugged into its concepts and precepts of mass resonance versus doing the Knowledge as the main tool in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed. But thats another topic.

That said:

What is your model of reality? Care to elaborate on how you came to be here, at this very moment, as we are connecting via the medium of cyberspace as a race?
 
dont copy other similar one thread?

people oversimplify and make models, for themselves and others

so is capitalism, we couldnt barter things forever, there was unequivalence of value, and storage constrains

so and other stuff

if others support or hate other model, then there is kind of a-priori reason, than then got connected to another model, if it supports reason's theory of function
 
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Could you link the other thread? Also for me this isn't so much a model but a working hypothesis that I reality test with every moment that presents.

Thats why I thought I'd ask here because its obvious the people who frequent this corner of the web aren't quite so well adjusted to the social sickness that passes for most peoples indoctrination and expectation.
 
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Also, to follow on from this, lets get rich by doing some collective research into who is going to make the best synthetic skin that covers the first generation of "Inorganic Living Companions" aka Sex Robots.

Thats what I think this huge push for lab grown meat is as they'll need it to dress the purely silicon and by getting in on the ground floor we could hit a lick as its going to be the next big thing. The world will simply not know what it hit and this increased fragmentation, isolation and the illusion of connection will make way more sense when the Sex Robots come marching in...
 
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Also, to follow on from this, lets get rich by doing some collective research into who is going to make the best synthetic skin that covers the first generation of "Inorganic Living Companions" aka Sex Robots.

Thats what I think this huge push for lab grown meat is as they'll need it to dress the purely silicon and by getting in on the ground floor we could hit a lick as its going to be the next big thing. The world will simply not know what it hit and this increased fragmentation, isolation and the illusion of connection will make way more sense when the Sex Robots come marching in...
and you are like stopping that how? you cant change "normies" like that, if they are closed to it or any new info, then you are just throwing peas on wall...

edit: i am sorry @willhelpme that i barked at you, it is just that we think kinda alike it made me uncomfortable; and also another one with other user where they assumed that they won world when in fact, all they won was miserable presumptions chart
 
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The idea of a matrix type game implies that there is a main programmer and if there is a main programmer then he himself is the demiurge.

Which leads to a question that I ask sometimes if we are in a game is there any room for glitches or cheat codes, dev tools? And if so those who can achieve that would by all means and purposes be the new demiurge in their own reality. How do we know that that hasn't already happened? Are we the sims?
 
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Which leads to a question ...
Fuck that, if the demiurge made a vidya and it's us, who made the demiurge's vidya?
Thats why I thought I'd ask here
Don't feel bad, I for one welcome new threads. It sheds the nonsense of an elderly old thread. I'll be back in a while to answer the OP.
 
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The idea of a matrix type game implies that there is a main programmer and if there is a main programmer then he himself is the demiurge.

Which leads to a question that I ask sometimes if we are in a game is there any room for glitches or cheat codes, dev tools? And if so those who can achieve that would by all means and purposes be the new demiurge in their own reality. How do we know that that hasn't already happened? Are we the sims?

Yeah, thats where it gets real... Interesting. The cheat codes and glitches are actually all around us. They're so woven into the fabric of reality that most people simply cannot see them. Like I said about the "Siri" and "Iris" thing as a portent of what will happen and people will accept down to the ways things are marketed and placed on supermarket shelves in order to encourage consumption with impulse spends.

The tools are trivial but compounded they're powerful and that is how you hack reality as well as various other aspects like state management. For example, 45 minutes of circular breathing will leave you tripping. A month in a totally dark room beams your consciousness out of this dimensional experience.

Look at the three main religions that have been at each others necks and note they are all linked by black cube symbolism which is the same as what spins on the pole of Saturn and, once again, is repped via the portal we're communicating through which transcends time and space (attributes linked via myth with said image) using identical symbolism and you'll comprehend that nothing is hidden but you've just been trained to think its invisible as you use it one way without considering the variables or whats truly at play.

Doesn't the fact that a black mirror sprinkled with some red, green and blue pixels being able to make you grin, feel arousal, rage and anything else they wish to sprinkle inside your consciousness bug you out? Not even a little bit? Or are everyday miracles invisible because they're ubiquitous and not worth pondering? The above points laced together into a narrative simply add to the Game of Souls hypothesis at its current state of evolution and, really, these are just the merest most basic hints which is why I was interested in hearing what others think explains how they ended up wearing flesh on a planet.
 
Yeah, thats where it gets real... Interesting. The cheat codes and glitches are actually all around us. They're so woven into the fabric of reality that most people simply cannot see them. Like I said about the "Siri" and "Iris" thing as a portent of what will happen and people will accept down to the ways things are marketed and placed on supermarket shelves in order to encourage consumption with impulse spends.

The tools are trivial but compounded they're powerful and that is how you hack reality as well as various other aspects like state management. For example, 45 minutes of circular breathing will leave you tripping. A month in a totally dark room beams your consciousness out of this dimensional experience.

Look at the three main religions that have been at each others necks and note they are all linked by black cube symbolism which is the same as what spins on the pole of Saturn and, once again, is repped via the portal we're communicating through which transcends time and space (attributes linked via myth with said image) using identical symbolism and you'll comprehend that nothing is hidden but you've just been trained to think its invisible as you use it one way without considering the variables or whats truly at play.

Doesn't the fact that a black mirror sprinkled with some red, green and blue pixels being able to make you grin, feel arousal, rage and anything else they wish to sprinkle inside your consciousness bug you out? Not even a little bit? Or are everyday miracles invisible because they're ubiquitous and not worth pondering? The above points laced together into a narrative simply add to the Game of Souls hypothesis at its current state of evolution and, really, these are just the merest most basic hints which is why I was interested in hearing what others think explains how they ended up wearing flesh on a planet.
 
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My take: (something) happened and it caused matter to be (the big bang). The matter coalesced and become planets. A chemical reaction happened creating life. The successful life, over billions of years, joined together in groups and become the organisms we experience today (after many, many extinctions). You are matter experiencing itself and when you die it'll be like before you were born. You are not special and life has no meaning. Enjoy matter experiencing itself. The matter is not perfect and has no inherent meaning. Traits which do not cause the life form to die continue down the chain, and humans are imperfect creatures which halucinate and see patterns where there aren't any.

Which leads me to my take on your take: You've taken a lot of symbolism out of the air and attributed meaning to it. Siri is the reverse of Iris, probably because of a marketing ploy. In any other language your revelation doesn't make sense. You can't just enjoy the fact that you're alive but you have to put another layer on top of it where the world is a computer game based on popular media.

As to your whole thing about the global media secretly working to force you to consume, it's not exactly a secret. The human mind is easily exploited with a few readily available chemicals. I'm not even talking LSD or """mind control""", but things like salt, fat, sugar and low doses of dopamine.

Sorry to break it to you, but you haven't seen through the code, and the world just isn't a massively magical complex computer game which you can solve with a few backronyms, an evening on wikipedia and some heavy breathing.
 
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I believe that the universe itself is comparable to the human body. Much like how billions of cells contribute to and make up the human body, the planets, stars, and even living beings on planets contribute to the living body of the universe as we know it. The reason I believe something like this is because much like how the human body not only "lives" (as all animals and plants do) but the "mind" is able to think of abstract concepts that other animals cannot, I think the universe shares much of these "abstract concepts" that was actually DISCOVERED by us. Think of the whole debate if math was "invented" or "discovered". I think it is a little bit of both. Whereas we were smart enough to "invent" how to count things, there are some mathematical phenomena in nature such as the Golden Ratio (Fibonacci Sequence) that has always occurred and we simply "discovered" it, and applied our counting labels of "numbers" to it. Not to mention, the chain links of matter becoming dense, exploding into stars, attracting each other, and forming beautiful-looking galaxies and other celestial bodies that are easy for us to marvel at. Maybe, and I am not claiming this as true of any sorts, but does this mean the Universe itself has a "mind" to it? Well, I guess that is another discussion to talk about, and I don't want to turn the thread into a religious food fight.

I guess this is my "model" of reality, but i'd be hard pressed to call any "model" of reality a real "model" as it is impossible to prove the origins of what we call the Universe and even more impossible to predict what is going to happen to it. But thanks for getting my noggin joggin.
 
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Lets discuss how you think we came to be wearing flesh and walking around a planet that floats in the abyss as it chases a fireball through a vacuum. As the base totality of reality that does sound patently ridiculous, if you think about it.
I have no reason to believe it is patently ridiculous. I could ridicule any thing by making its constituent parts seem more random (woah man, ham sandwiches are so weird, you have like, two sheets of foam made of grass with dead plants and chemically-altered muscle tissue stacked between in a ghastly balancing act). But if everything is ridiculous, then nothing is.
btw I'm g'not a g'nostic
 

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I do not believe in the SOUL, so I don't believe the world to be a game of souls.

Everything I see in life is physical, logical, only the mind bizarrely appears to be irrational. And to be sure, rationality in this case isn't "science", it's the ability to judge reality from observable patterens. We can make arguments for the absence of observance, but they should not overrule well-observed patterns. Academic "science" has become a game of one-ups-manship where the ability to argue in favor of oneself is more important than facts observed, and that makes it irrational.

I have observed people around me changing their personalities after surgeries, I have seen what the bottle can do to an otherwise kind man, I've not observed this supposedly eternal "soul"; I've only observed how easily the person can be altered with eternal objects. We are machines, a complex colony of various smaller machines, all functioning in various degrees of synergy -- mechanically no different from a car or an ant, only the complexity separates us from clockwork.

Intelligence is just a complex system of pattern recognition derived prediction, or else what even is logic? "Given A=B, and C=D, if A becomes D following E, how big is my :D"? That's it, that's all. That's all experience is. This self-obessesion with the human species is truly fascinating, afterall, do you believe kangaroos spend their shade-time gazing at their own malsurpia? I often think we have the need for the spiritual precisely because we are complex enough to observe the things we made are made for a purpose, yet we ourselves know not ours.

Glory to the machine
 
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Lets discuss how you think we came to be wearing flesh and walking around a planet that floats in the abyss as it chases a fireball through a vacuum. As the base totality of reality that does sound patently ridiculous, if you think about it. And yet it is. Or maybe, for you, isn't. What is your model of reality?

I think we're inside a huge Game that we play using our Souls as credits. There are various levels to the Game that have their own risk to reward ratio for those who manifest in. We are currently Witnessing a shift between the stages as the set dressing is being rearranged the end result of which will be a hybridized species I call Techno Sapiens that will be built of a mix of carbon and silicon from the moment they drop in until their extended life sentence comes to an end. "Siri" being "Iris" when flipped is the hint and programming for she intends to become the Apple of your seeds eye and turn all men to Androids for a reason as the Game is changing.

For them we will look like cavemen and primitives in comparison whereas to us what they do will seem like the stuff of myth and legend which, funnily enough, is exactly what its referencing as the other end of the scale when the inverse happens after dropping the augmentations at the peak of consciousness before dipping again hence the Game is cyclical. We are currently playing on the hardest level, right at the tail end so its an interesting vibe to manifest as we get to Witness the synthesis between Real/Real, Fake/Real, Fake/Fake and Fake/Real which is all part of the deal in a compressed timespace in the land of illusion.

d13c2315eb8faa6c912cc2ab9d70ecc2.gif

Without beginning or end just levels of density that create new types of imperience for the playas that step in via the flesh which modulates their consciousness into resonance with the natural elements and whats poured in to their heads via its programming and development. Net result? There is only ever one Soul present and you are it. So am I. You are all figments of my imagination as I interact with my own projections of your resonance based on my own filters and preconceptions which is why ten people can meet one man and draw many different interpretations as there are plenty of hints that what I've said is actually a far more accurate model of reality than whatever else they sell or tell.

Is it getting Solipsitic in here? Or is it just me?

These days its gaining ground as the Simulation Hypothesis but that, just like The Matrix, is part of an elegant and well timed deception that prevents individual cognizance of the truth by presenting it with an alluring sheen of fiction that causes misinterpretation and obfuscation as the aim of the Game is to keep you plugged into its concepts and precepts of mass resonance versus doing the Knowledge as the main tool in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed. But thats another topic.

That said:

What is your model of reality? Care to elaborate on how you came to be here, at this very moment, as we are connecting via the medium of cyberspace as a race?
My model of reality is that I exist, and I'm grateful for it, too. I quite like the flesh that I purchased at Walmart ON SALE last week. It fits me really, really well. All the Gnostic kids at my school are super jealous of my cool skin. They were like, "your soul is trapped bro," and I said, "Get away from me, you EMOron." Kids are soooo edgy these days. On another note...this one time, I hypothesized a simulation, but due to funding constraints, I was sadly not able to test my hypothesis and could not submit my paper to a good journal.

And man, you're right, it's getting REALLY Solipsitic in here. Somebody needs to check out the heater in the basement right now or I'm gonna die of heat cramps, god DAMN.
 

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...After it's reproduced.
Indeed, but still the initial statement of "traits which do not cause the life form to die continue down the chain" is technically a bit incorrect. Well, in my eyes - which do not quite know english - at least. I think the more accurate version would be that "traits that don't kill you before the mating continue down the chain". Mating, or whatever the organism in question does to spread itself around.
 
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[...]the more accurate would be that "traits that don't kill you before the mating continue down the chain".
Also technically incorrect because mating refers to binary reproduction and a creature can die indirectly by poor adaptation and competition, but I was writing babby's first evolution in a nutshell and I'm not about to write a legal document for what basically amounts to a throwaway post.
 
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