When did getting microchipped like a family pet become trendy and futuristic?

[MySpace Tom]

By "bad skin" do you mean "being black"? Because that's an excellent way to fuck a QR tattoo.

I was thinking more along the lines of acne, but you raise a good point

 

[microbyte]

I mean clothing places are already putting RFID trackers in people's bodies. I don't see anything inherently wrong with this (to each their own), but if (and that's a big if) it starts getting mandated then I would have a problem. And people already take their phone everywhere, from a privacy perspective this would be the same exact thing.

 

[handoferis]

Someone did this a couple of years ago - cut the RFID out of his Oyster card, implanted it in himself, tried to go on the London Underground, successfully tapped in, and then got done by a ticket inspector because he wasn't able to produce his Oyster card.

Deserved fuckup imo

e: my b, the story is correct but it was actually in Oz and it was an Opal card.

 

[GENOSAD]

I remember someone posting this image in another thread not too long ago. I didn't expect to be reposting it on this site...

How long will it take for the government to see how this tech could be used to manipulate and spy on their citizens? Considering this trend's origin in the most techno-dystopian country on Earth, how do we know it isn't already being used for that?
Just when we thought things couldn't possibly get any worse, here we fucking are.

 

[Some_porcupine]

I remember someone posting this image in another thread not too long ago. I didn't expect to be reposting it on this site...

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How long will it take for the government to see how this tech could be used to manipulate and spy on their citizens? Considering this trend's origin in the most techno-dystopian country on Earth, how do we know it isn't already being used for that?
Just when we thought things couldn't possibly get any worse, here we fucking are.

See my yesterday containment chat Unabomber Quora reposts

 

[MacchyMacchy]

Obviously every technological progress brings with it positive and negative aspects, sometimes we can take a risk for something that can really improve our lives.

But what would be the point of these chips? Are people so lazy that they don't even want to take out their credit card to pay and feel the need for a device that simplifies this daily action?

Imo, devices like under-the-skin payment chips and the neurallink just have the ability to make the people who use them feel special, making them like superpowered cyborgs.

On the other hand there is also an unbridled progressivism and the need to feel part of the change, which translates into everyday life often as in the first point, like "I'm cool because I'm not afraid of the change like you, look at the chip that I just had implanted."

 

[MySpace Tom]

But what would be the point of these chips? Are people so lazy that they don't even want to take out their credit card to pay and feel the need for a device that simplifies this daily action?

Credit cards can be stolen and identities can be faked

Chipping would allegedly stop this since people would need to have it to verify their identities. Since these would be embedded into the body, it would theoretically be harder to spoof these. Though, inevitably, someone's going to find a way to break this system too

 

[Punp]

I don't think this issue is as wide spread as the thinner end of the edge - requiring cookies everywhere you go on the internet, making it a legal requirement to have documentation on you at all times (NYC, for example) etc. It's easy to get upset about the big things, but it's the small things leading up to it which really requires attention.

 

[Some_porcupine]

I don't think this issue is as wide spread as the thinner end of the edge - requiring cookies everywhere you go on the internet, making it a legal requirement to have documentation on you at all times (NYC, for example) etc. It's easy to get upset about the big things, but it's the small things leading up to it which really requires attention.

oh i see
false fears to sweap away the debate about real pressent problem matters...

 

[Anova3]

Credit cards can be stolen and identities can be faked

Chipping would allegedly stop this since people would need to have it to verify their identities. Since these would be embedded into the body, it would theoretically be harder to spoof these. Though, inevitably, someone's going to find a way to break this system too

Depends on where in the body it is. It's digital, and can be read anywhere from an inch to a few feet away without you knowing or feeling anything.

If it's in your hand, for example, and I'm trying to use your identity, I might put a reader on a door-handle or similar object that I know you frequently interact with, and then just wait for you to do so. At which point I would scan the chip a handful of times to get a handful of good reads and then use those played-back out of my phone or other device to impersonate you for a few actions.

That's assuming the implanted chips have private keys they use to create their transmissions and aren't just sending a stored pass-code directly. In which case i would only need to read you once and I would have you forever.

And this can get particularly dastardly too: I could replace your mouse in your office with a malicious model and pull fresh data off your chip all day so long as you're at your desk.

Edit:
This is in comparison with RFID/NFC chips in cards, which are already a thing and people regularly put those in faraday sleeves and wallets for a reason. So unless you plan on wearing a faraday glove over your chipped hand all the time, you can expect it to be a security and privacy problem.

 

[Vitnira]

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> On a thread about how big tech is trying to invade your life and mind with a gimmick
> Soy pointing at AI like it's not big tech trying to invade your life and mind with a gimmick
> """look up that AI generated QR code thingy where the code is embedded inside a colored image, which can be a person, scenery, or whatever else""" but unironically

>get autistically triggered every time AI's existence is brought up like it's a fucking vacuum cleaner noise

"i've seen alternate qr code designs, like how this AI does it"
"you brought up AI and it's SOOOYYYY REEEEEEEE"

 

[Vitnira]

Much like the whole gas stove debacle, this is another propaganda balloon they're floating that's going to pop. There's no way in hell Boomers/Gen X would get chipped, and I'd wager 25-50% of millennials wouldn't either. They have a chance in 50 years when everyone who'd fight is dead and the world is solely in the hands of the Algorithm-Fried Generations...if they even want to by then.

It's more likely you'll see people lining up to get their brains scanned with Meta/Google/X/Whatever to train a 90% accurate NPC script "AI", in exchange for a free VR headset to play Genshin Impact x Fortnite: VR.

 

[Digital Cheese]

The newer the technology gets, the more I become like Unabomber.

This might just make me move into a forest

 

[Vitnira]

The main problem with these things is that they are an optional, until they aren't. See how Sweden for example tries to get rid of cash, or how depended everybody is on their Phone nowadays. Considering the elites can operate in multiple countries, they can do their tests in a way that people don't really see the full picture until they actively seek out the patterns.

My point is even if they pushed for it people aren't even going to opt into chipping except chronically online TikTokers who don't have enough money to be worth tracking.

People will give up cash because it's a PITA to get out cash constantly. They'll use phones because they make life easier. Unless a technology makes something "easier" for a consumer they won't opt in - that's the whole point of consumerism. What about microchipping is "easy"? You have to go to a doctor...get it implanted...and then what does the chip do that your phone doesn't, which as you mentioned, everyone is already dependent on anyway?

They need a certain precipice of people opting in (like the covid vax) before mandates because otherwise people will riot. If "everyone else is doing it and it makes life easier" it's a better sell. The elites aren't completely stupid.

 

[Nori Dee]

@Vitnira I think chipping is not really feasible. Of course it can be used as a marker of increased cooperation with the system that can be rewarded or even used as a societal red herring.

The big thing will be a mix of biometrics, and all the items we use will be chipped. Internet of Things and so on.

The tracking is ultimately for data collection. If there is enough data they could use ML and AI to manipulate and control society. That is already happening on the social media platforms.

 

[Punp]

>get autistically triggered every time AI's existence is brought up like it's a fucking vacuum cleaner noise

"i've seen alternate qr code designs, like how this AI does it"
"you brought up AI and it's SOOOYYYY REEEEEEEE"

Yes. Compare:

"i've seen alternate qe code designs, like how this trendy microchipping app does it"
"you brought up microchipping and it's SOOOYYYY REEEEEEE"

or

"i've seen alternate qe code designs, look at this one from my dog fucking app"
"you brought up dogfucking and it's degenerate, get out"

Do not accept the unacceptable as a casual mention in conversation.

What about microchipping is "easy"? You have to go to a doctor...get it implanted...

You've been able to buy RFID thenar web space microchipping DIY kits for at least five years. Once it's in, that's the convenience.

 

[Vitnira]

Yes. Compare:

"i've seen alternate qe code designs, like how this trendy microchipping app does it"
"you brought up microchipping and it's SOOOYYYY REEEEEEE"

or

"i've seen alternate qe code designs, look at this one from my dog fucking app"
"you brought up dogfucking and it's degenerate, get out"

Do not accept the unacceptable as a casual mention in conversation.

You've been able to buy RFID thenar web space microchipping DIY kits for at least five years. Once it's in, that's the convenience.

This is a bizarre comparison to make when we're on a thread that started by linking a Youtube video about a TikTok trend, both of which are cancer.

I suppose I can relate in a sense when people try to show me TikTok videos I die inside. But I've also never seen something of substance from TikTok vs the user mentioning something easily-searchable where you can see an example without having to engage with the technology itself. AI is clearly more abhorrent to you than even TikTok is to me.


Dealing with the average voter has drastically shifted my perception of what the average person considers 'easy'. You mentioned doing something yourself. That's too much. It probably requires reading something to figure out, too. You think people want to read?

Though if they start standing up microchipping booths that give away a $50 Apple gift card with every free chipping...I will panic.

 

[Punp]

AI is clearly more abhorrent to you than even TikTok is to me.

Yes, much like Tiktok AI is one of the symptoms of a failing creative society. I don't know how much you know about Tiktok culture, but the main thing is to look at what is trending and copy it exactly 1:1. Repeat jokes, repeat skits. Repeat everything through and through.

By showing disgust at the things we dislike and pushing them out of conversation and culture, you can eradicate them from your life. If someone doesn't want a lecture on how awful Tiktok is they'll stop mentioning it around you. If you do this enough and it's adopted by other people you can isolate subjects of conversation in your local community so the subjects no longer have an audience.

Consider visiting the deep south and trying to talk enthusiastically about your transgender boyfriend's buttplug.

Though if they start standing up microchipping booths that give away a $50 Apple gift card with every free chipping...I will panic.

Damn, that'd be wild.

EDIT: lmao just noticed the bbc news URL was in pidgin. It makes it better. Also the wording promotes doing it, whereas the English article says it's exploiting third world nations by giving them paltry recompense for their biometrics. Sweet hypocrisy in action.

 

[microbyte]

The big thing will be a mix of biometrics, and all the items we use will be chipped. Internet of Things and so on.

Yeah I don't think this whole "microchipping" thing is an actual big problem. It's been going on for a while (dangerousthings is old), and most ppl don't care. Now what WILL become big (due to already existing infrastructure and it being super convenient) is biometric tracking. Facial detection, gait detection, etc. A lot of airlines already use facial detection for getting on flights, and it's essentially universally accepted. And it's better for the people in charge, as they can just track people with cameras, eschewing the need for expensive, new readers to be put everywhere, and can piggyback on already existing CCTV and Ring and all that. Additionally, RFID tags and such are already sewed into clothes. You are already sort of chipped and capable of being tracked by your clothes. Nothing new.
In short, microchipping = small; biometrics=big.

 

[Punp]

Additionally, RFID tags and such are already sewed into clothes. You are already sort of chipped and capable of being tracked by your clothes. Nothing new.

Don't you remove the RFID tags from your clothes after you've stolen them?