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Every couple of months or so, I'll get reminded of the Amazon Prime advertisement the HR Lady's face (Timestamp: 2:04) is cropped from; it's always horrifying. Seeing it in this video genuinely gave me whiplash.

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Cant believe anyone thought this would've been a good idea... Like... Why? Ah yes we gotta get that obese POC dollar. And het face is almost demonic, like the expression of a meth addict finally getting the object of his desire
 
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Cant believe anyone thought this would've been a good idea... Like... Why?
ESG & DEI, doesn't have to be generally appealing, effective in it's tactics, or even profitable, just has to pay lip service to "the message" in order to stay inline and receive subsidies printed from thin air.
 
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I feel like in our lifetime we will see at least one major corporate assassination. Someone in the elite like Bezos or Bill Gates. I get that surveillance tech is pretty much an all-seeing eye at this point but there has to be some blind spots that can be exploited, or at the very least, some radicalized person that doesn't mind throwing their life away just to take one of them out. I'd like to see what happens if one of them is killed. What sort of dead-man's switches are in play. Who takes over their respective estates etc... How does this affect global superpowers? That sort of thing.
 
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ideas on GlobSec?
heard on radio there will be border controls (duh, like fr? thats agains schengen or so...) as of "minimalzing the accidents" from letting "unwaranted" "criminals" in XD.
idk, but things like that want me to go even more sinister goofier and angry, that as if havent been infoed about it on radio, got it? its.... provocation XD
 
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Ironically enough, "Own nothing and be happy" is probably going to be a reality at some point, just not any time soon.
As technology advances, at some point it's going to be much more resource efficient to simulate physical objects in full immersion VR than actually producing them to own, at which point people will probably have access to basically everything online, reducing cost to the point where


a low monthly fee
this part is more of a fantasy than the rest of your post. you automatically assume low monthly fee because...consumer goods were cheaper in the 40 year period following WW2, when America was king, and people in India and China lived on 2 nickels a day? you have to realize that the sun has set on the post-war economy. we are now in the long dark.
 

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this part is more of a fantasy than the rest of your post. you automatically assume low monthly fee because...consumer goods were cheaper in the 40 year period following WW2, when America was king, and people in India and China lived on 2 nickels a day? you have to realize that the sun has set on the post-war economy. we are now in the long dark.

Actually, I predict low monthly fee because it's not only the pay model society seems to be moving toward at the moment, but because it would no longer cost money to produce the physical product, you know cause it's in a virtual space rather than a physical good. as of such, the cost would be decoupled from many of the physical constraints (transport, part scarcity, assembly, ect) that can drive the current cost of goods to increase. In addition the tools we use to create things, both physically and virtually, are becoming stronger. Increasing accessibility to individuals and decreasing cost, something that will likely come into play substantially in the next decade as cheap foreign labor continues to phase itself out due a combination of factors such as international conflicts triggering the realization that the first world needs to produce it's own shit, capitalism slowly turning the third world to 2nd or 1st world (thus no longer rendering it cheap). and an overall decreasing world population because apparently the only people capable of breeding in 1st world conditions are white Christians for some fucking reason.

I mean, if you really want an example of this in action, it cost something from about 5000$ to 15000$ to own a Williams/Baily physical pinball table, but a virtual replica of the same table cost like 2~10$. It would essentially be this, but on a far more massive scale.
 
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I have to disagree. The era of cheap is gone. The absolute cost of any good or service is irrelevant, what matters is its cost relative to your disposable income, which will approach zero, as all jobs get automated out of existence, and you and i will be offered free tickets to Futurama style suicide booths.

You are applying reason and logic to an inherently illogical system (capitalism) that seemed to prosper only because it's social and environmental costs were out of sight and mind.

The only rule of capitalism is "number must go up". It doesn't matter what anything costs to produce, all that matters is how much they can take from your pocket. Why shouldn't they gouge you as much as possible? Morality? Ethics? Refer to rule#1 "number must go up". "Oh b..bbut the free market will provide competition". Keep dreaming. The competition will be bought out, or killed off.

People literally paying for dominos on payment plan rn...
 

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inherently illogical system (capitalism)
Values/prices can be irrational but how is capitalism illogical? Economists have been studying it for quite some time and its logic has been documented a lot.
Sorry if it's just me arguing semantics but I find its workings to be very logical - just very irrational too at times and that mostly because value is partly subjective. But all the bad (and good) that comes from it is predictable and explainable I think.
Otherwise it would be way harder to have such strong opinions on it I think.
 
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Sorry if it's just me arguing semantics but I find its workings to be very logical - just very irrational too at times and that mostly because value is partly subjective.
good point, i concede on the semantics, i was not precise in my choice of words :NekoNatsukiHappy:

capitalism is irrational, and favors the short and immediate over the long term. it is the kind of system that will blow it's own legs off, if it leads to immediate profit. the fact that you are now a paraplegic is not part of the thought process.

irrational or illogical... i think it can be both actually. depends on the scenario and situation.

is it "logical" for a corporation to dump toxic forever chemicals into the local creek, killing all the fish, and rendering the water undrinkable? if it is "logical" then i will reject such logic. i think whether something is logical or not, is a matter of perspective, and level of available information, and intelligence.

it might be "logical" for a herd of deer to multiply endlessly on an island with abundant lichen, grass and mushrooms. but it is illogical if the deer is able to understand that endless growth is unsustainable, and that eventually there will come a point where there are so many deer that they strip the island bare, and the population will drop 96% in 1 generation.
 
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arent they just bunch of dreamers aiming too high?
They kind of are. This is an organization that's been around since the 70s but for some reason it's only in the spotlight now, and it openly stepped into that spotlight voluntarily with that Great Reset crap. It's an open provocation that came at a sensitive time, so you have to wonder why and I don't have a good answer for that. It is causing some of the zanier people to go nuts in predictable ways, maybe as a shitcoat of the whole idea. See also: rightwingers thinking Soros is a secret communist when he was in fact instrumental in the fall of communism (among other things he was on the very first plane into romania after ceaucescu was killed).

Anyway here's some research notes from someone I trust on the matter:
 
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They kind of are. This is an organization that's been around since the 70s but for some reason it's only in the spotlight now, and it openly stepped into that spotlight voluntarily with that Great Reset crap. It's an open provocation that came at a sensitive time, so you have to wonder why and I don't have a good answer for that.

Anyway here's some research notes from someone I trust on the matter:
they're esoteric fascists agitating the kaliyuga
 
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