Would you call me a "bad person"?

[Caspar]

ends justifying the means, the opposite?

I take after Nietzsche's etymological examination of the word 'virtue'. Virtue is competence. Whether tis Jason seeking the golden fleece or the Red Army standing atop the Reichstag, the hero is the victor. If being moral lead to victory, then morality is virtuous. If morality leads to defeat, then morality itself has become decadent. The ends prove the means. Morality is merely a means, and one which does not disappear. All peoples have a morality; it is the duty of whoever the priestly caste is to explicate morals which carry their flock upwards.

Arminius was virtuous while Cato was decadent despite both being traitors. Roland was virtuous for dying for a victorious cause. The Shinsengumi were decadent for dying for a doomed cause. Generally, reactionaries are decadents pretending at virtue whereas revolutionaries are virtuous despite pretending at decadence.

See arete.

 

[MindControlBoxer]

Post your videos

 

[macrobyte]

some bitcoins get lost to lost wallets, lost passwords, bitcoins sent to the dead and to obselete wallets

so the divisibility function is necesarry for the money to stay alive.

and since bitcoin is finite, its does not inflate, it DEFLATES.


If you divise the same unit instead of multiplying or adding to it,

the currency will get deflated as the subunits go unto circulation

No shot are you actually saying that deflation is good. Like holy shit that's one of the most retarded things I've heard. For an economy to function, a minor amount of inflation is necessary. Economies are created by primarily rational actors (even if a person isn't rational, the company that makes the things the person buys should be). Deflation plunges a society into recession, as it eliminates any incentive to buy. If your money's just gonna get more valuable, the goods more cheap, than it makes sense just to hold onto your money. This results in a slow down of an economy. Additionally, a minor bit of inflation, not the level the USD is currently at, but less than that, is also helpful for an economy, as that actors in the economy have an incentive to buy stuff, as their money gets less valuable.
Additionally, money isn't made valuable necessarily by its scarcity. Nothing is fully made valuable by scarcity. Just because I have a one or few of a kind item, if only I want it, then it isn't valuable because it's scarce. It's just junk. Most currency is made valuable because people and vested institutions have a reason to keep hallucinating value into it. This is the accepted view among economists, and it appears to be the view by you. But bitcoin isn't special or anything because of its form of scarcity. The amount of shit I make is scarce, there's only a finite amount that will ever be made. But that doesn't make my shit valuable. Also, bitcoin just isn't scarce, at least relative to most fiat, due to its small size.

It's called economics dipshit I know you haven't heard of them

You have no actual economics knowledge. Fucking grow up.

 

[LiraTirsoCaduceo]

You think you are a bad person for doing it, at least, otherwise you wouldn't be asking. At least deep down it's something you think.
Why do you do it? Is it really the best way you have to earn money?
I think stereotypical short content not only fries people's brains, but also makes the world uglier.
If you know it's bad, and you have alternatives, why do you do it?
Someone else will replace you if you don't do it, people will be taken advantage by the system as we all are. But you have limited time in this life, and you could use that time to make something beautiful instead of something ugly.

I take after Nietzsche's etymological examination of the word 'virtue'. Virtue is competence

That's a big jump. Etymologically virtue comes from vir, man. The quality that makes someone a man, which is why being effeminate was so often seen as the opposite of a virtue in traditional societies. A boy, puer, becomes a man, vir, and he must behave with virtue.
Would you mind quoting Nietzsche? I'm not familiar with his work, so I'm curious what connection he makes between victory and virtue.
Superficially I think here you are conflating three different concepts, victory, competence and virtue. Someone can be competent at many things, yet not be virtuous, someone might be virtuous and competent, but fall short of victory.
I'm assuming that by victory you here refer to conquering, particularly imposing your ephemeral will.

 

[LostintheCycle]

the nuance is that why the FUCK are you peeing on our ocean when you could just not?

do you really want to be that guy pissing in our beautiful ocean? THAT is morality. not the act of doing or consuming. but BEING the guy that pisses or doesn't piss. you either could have not pissed, allowing the day to move along as it normally does. or you could have pissed, showing disrespect and grossing out everyone around you.

The thing is, I believe that most people who are part of the awful short-form content system, know what they are doing and likely justify it to themselves in this way.
I'll admit that I had this same temptation, about a year ago I put some work into automatically scraping trending TikTok videos to churn out compilations to see if I could make some money. I thought to myself, would this project really be something I can be proud of? Is this the way I want to spent my time?
To say it's pissing into the ocean is wrong in the first place, it's more like pissing into a vat of piss next to everybody else standing on the brim, many of which are thinking it's fine because even if they don't do it, everybody else is anyway, so what's a little more?
Your own individual contribution in whatsoever way it is, even if it's small compared to the sum of everybody elses, is an actual contribution to the problem and is not immune to scrutiny.
It's worse actually if you are aware of what you are doing but continue anyway. I can believe a small portion of creators don't think it's harmful, but because today everyone has some awareness of how bad it is, then surely a lot of these creators also don't think highly of their work. Because when you do any work for some time, you think of what you are doing, what the purpose of it is, and why you do it. I often think about this as a computer student because there is a lot of ethical questions in this field, but even when I was pushing trolleys I would think, what is the purpose of my job? What value exchange happens when I get my twenty an hour?

 

[Schwarzeisc00l]

No shot are you actually saying that deflation is good. Like holy shit that's one of the most retarded things I've heard. For an economy to function, a minor amount of inflation is necessary. Economies are created by primarily rational actors (even if a person isn't rational, the company that makes the things the person buys should be). Deflation plunges a society into recession, as it eliminates any incentive to buy. If your money's just gonna get more valuable, the goods more cheap, than it makes sense just to hold onto your money. This results in a slow down of an economy. Additionally, a minor bit of inflation, not the level the USD is currently at, but less than that, is also helpful for an economy, as that actors in the economy have an incentive to buy stuff, as their money gets less valuable.
Additionally, money isn't made valuable necessarily by its scarcity. Nothing is fully made valuable by scarcity. Just because I have a one or few of a kind item, if only I want it, then it isn't valuable because it's scarce. It's just junk. Most currency is made valuable because people and vested institutions have a reason to keep hallucinating value into it. This is the accepted view among economists, and it appears to be the view by you. But bitcoin isn't special or anything because of its form of scarcity. The amount of shit I make is scarce, there's only a finite amount that will ever be made. But that doesn't make my shit valuable. Also, bitcoin just isn't scarce, at least relative to most fiat, due to its small size.

You have no actual economics knowledge. Fucking grow up.

Keynesian detected, opinion rejected. This is what happens when you follow a fags advice on economics. You are the one with no economical or historical knowledge. Please start reading books about actual economics. I'm not gonna argue further with you.

Learn some ecoomics, bitch


"Hoppe also suggested that John Maynard Keynes's homosexuality might explain his economic views, with which Hoppe disagreed."

 

[Schwarzeisc00l]

You think you are a bad person for doing it, at least, otherwise you wouldn't be asking. At least deep down it's something you think.
Why do you do it? Is it really the best way you have to earn money?
I think stereotypical short content not only fries people's brains, but also makes the world uglier.
If you know it's bad, and you have alternatives, why do you do it?
Someone else will replace you if you don't do it, people will be taken advantage by the system as we all are. But you have limited time in this life, and you could use that time to make something beautiful instead of something ugly.

I don't think I'm a bad person for doing it. I don't think it personally affects me that big. I think that this is the best why right now to earn money online. And I'm doing it.

I don't think its bad I just wanted to hear opinions and argue.

 

[MindControlBoxer]

I don't think I'm a bad person for doing it. I don't think it personally affects me that big. I think that this is the best why right now to earn money online. And I'm doing it.

I don't think its bad I just wanted to hear opinions and argue.

Thank you for your service officer!

 

[Punp]

I don't think I'm a bad person for doing it. I don't think it personally affects me that big. I think that this is the best why right now to earn money online. And I'm doing it.

I don't think its bad I just wanted to hear opinions and argue.

Now I get it. The title isn't to be interpreted as "do you think I'm a bad person?", it's "please call me a bad person."

You don't really get a choice in the matter. You have a goal dictated to you by the algorithm and you're following a path dictated by the route to success. You've essentially been botted. If the algo told you that long form content about lambs would pay out you'd do it.

You are a brainless bacterium leeching off the decaying corpse of the internet. You don't have enough autonomy to be considered "good" or "bad".

 

[Schwarzeisc00l]

Now I get it. The title isn't to be interpreted as "do you think I'm a bad person?", it's "please call me a bad person."

You don't really get a choice in the matter. You have a goal dictated to you by the algorithm and you're following a path dictated by the route to success. You've essentially been botted. If the algo told you that long form content about lambs would pay out you'd do it.

You are a brainless bacterium leeching off the decaying corpse of the internet. You don't have enough autonomy to be considered "good" or "bad".

Lets see here. Do I have a goal dictated to me the algorithm? No. I have reasons to earn money and I don't think they are dictated to me by the algorithm. And I see many people that are gaining what I want from it. So why not do it if it is ethical? It's not about what it tells me. It's what I observe.




Also why did you call the internet a decaying corpse? So I just do what the algorithm tells me to and I'm part of it all?

 

[Ross_Я]

The main question is; Would you call me a bad person for this? If they are willingly letting me fry their brain, am I a bad person for doing it?

It seems like eveyone else in this thread already said it, but pfft, yes. In a supply and demand chain, the blame lies on both sides. Simple as.

 

[Punp]

Lets see here. Do I have a goal dictated to me the algorithm? No.

Yes, and you state that here:

[...]short-form content... just trying to get likes... shitty music sped up or slowed down to catch the attention of retards... 5 second videos[...]

[...]I'm one of those creators. I'm doing this to earn a small amount of money. [...] I know that I'm creating poison[...]

Literally doing everything which promotes your video to be presented by the algorithm, which in turn is designed to retain attention. You are subject to the algorithm. The company™ makes a dollar on every cent you make from throwing your time into making filler content. You are as exploited as the people you think you're exploiting, and it'll last until they figure out how to automate you.

Also why did you call the internet a decaying corpse?

Just look around you at the mainstream internet. Why are you here, if it isn't because everything else is consuming itself? Social media is literally being broken down and decomposed by data scraping, advertisers, porn bots, vacuous posers and hybrots (like you). You are a disposeable and renewable part of the machine and I genuinely feel sorry for you.

 

[LiraTirsoCaduceo]

Literally doing everything which promotes your video to be presented by the algorithm, which in turn is designed to retain attention. You are subject to the algorithm.

"I was just following orders the algorithm."

 

[Schwarzeisc00l]

Yes, and you state that here:

Literally doing everything which promotes your video to be presented by the algorithm, which in turn is designed to retain attention. You are subject to the algorithm. The company™ makes a dollar on every cent you make from throwing your time into making filler content. You are as exploited as the people you think you're exploiting, and it'll last until they figure out how to automate you.


Just look around you at the mainstream internet. Why are you here, if it isn't because everything else is consuming itself? Social media is literally being broken down and decomposed by data scraping, advertisers, porn bots, vacuous posers and hybrots (like you). You are a disposeable and renewable part of the machine and I genuinely feel sorry for you.

What would you do if you were me? Sure the companies profit more than me but I do it too. Also I'm free to leave whenever I want.

 

[LiraTirsoCaduceo]

Also I'm free to leave whenever I want.

Do it.

 

[Schwarzeisc00l]

Do it.

Would you do it too?

 

[LiraTirsoCaduceo]

Would you do it too?

I am not doing shorts.

 

[Punp]

What would you do if you were me? Sure the companies profit more than me but I do it too. Also I'm free to leave whenever I want.

Wait until I'm sixteen, get a regular job and stop pestering forums with my inane victimhood threads.

 

[Schwarzeisc00l]

Wait until I'm sixteen, get a regular job and stop pestering forums with my inane victimhood threads.

1-I don't want to work a shit job.
2- This post wasn't even me trying to justify what I'm doing, it was to discuss morality. But doing that is "pestering" now.

 

[Noxy]

1-I don't want to work a shit job.
2- This post wasn't even me trying to justify what I'm doing, it was to discuss morality. But doing that is "pestering" now.

/r/antiwork is the best place for you, friend
I am not being sarcastic, you will most likely enjoy >reddit's company far better than Agora's.