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[lingo]

hello agoraroad, i'd like you to look through old youtube playlists you have ( like old favourites/watch laters ) and i want to know how many of the videos are private, deleted or unlisted.
you don't have to link them or anything i'd just like to know how many of them are gone

 

[Arcade101]

>still uses youtube

 

[lingo]

>still uses youtube

yeah i know, i don't like youtube either but i'm interested in how much old content is disappearing lol. Some of my old playlists got halved and i want to see if the same is happening to others

 

[Deleted member 3373]

I do need to shift away from youtube. It is the one website I cannot kick. And my youtube account only goes back to 2013. But on my likes list was a bunch of deleted stuff. Most of which I cannot remember. I do sometimes wonder if youtube automatically deletes videos from time to time in order to save on space in their databanks.

 

[IlluminatiPirate]

It is 25 deleted or private out of 320 videos.

 

[Jessica3cho雪血⊜青意]

Watch Later: About 500 out of 5000
Favorites: 57 out of 672

 

[lingo]

I do sometimes wonder if youtube automatically deletes videos from time to time in order to save on space in their databanks.

youtube is deleting accounts to save storage! repost to 15 people to prove you are still active!

in all seriousness i think its because youtube's rule changes get applied to content that was made when the rules they have now didn't apply which is frustrating as fuck

 

[Deleted member 3373]

youtube is deleting accounts to save storage! repost to 15 people to prove you are still active!

in all seriousness i think its because youtube's rule changes get applied to content that was made when the rules they have now didn't apply which is frustrating as fuck

I've found old videos from 2008 which used the N word and has never been taken down. I think it only started happening from the mid 2010s onwards. If you can remember a really old video you can still access some edgy content.

 

[Yakito]

I've found old videos from 2008 which used the N word and have never been taken down. I think it only started happening from the mid 2010s onwards. If you can remember a really old video you can still access some edgy content.

It is totally inconsistent what is allowed and what is not. Especially since the bot that enforces the "terms of service" and copyright claims seems to be drunk at best. I remember a ton of old youtube poops and other videos were nuked permanently due to having a copyrighted song back in the day.

YouTube was really open pre 2010, and had relatively lax content policies until the middle of the last decade. I mean even the old YouTube journey with the random recommendations is gone as well. I sometimes make a YT account to check how it works, and it's basically working so hard on putting you in a bubble. The chance of discovering something new, is very low.

If I was to make a YouTube "alternative" I would try to based it one a different model of video hosting. That's for sure. It would be closer to a booru, or newgrounds.

 

[lingo]

I've found old videos from 2008 which used the N word and have never been taken down. I think it only started happening from the mid 2010s onwards. If you can remember a really old video you can still access some edgy content.

i think it depends on how popular they are and if they're reported, loads of gaming videos from back in the day had pretty much every slur thrown about lmao and they're still up but thankfully they're not popular enough to get nuked

 

[Yakito]

i think it depends on how popular they are and if they're reported, loads of gaming videos from back in the day had pretty much every slur thrown about lmao and they're still up but thankfully they're not popular enough to get nuked

I tend to forget how many people actually reports videos. Maybe in hindsight, it was not a good idea to make the flagging system based on the model of an angry mob with pitchforks running around.

I sometimes wonder if due to the sheer volume of videos, older stuff simply have a lower priority when it comes to "cleaning up". In the scale that youtube cares about nobody watches the old stuff, and they have to process untold hours worth of new videos every second.

 

[JihyoParkXX]

>still uses youtube

What substitute do you suggest to replace it? Of all my sources of entertainment I find that it's the last one that I would put down.

 

[lain is here]

I remember a ton of old youtube poops and other videos were nuked permanently due to having a copyrighted song back in the day.

Something kind of weird relating to this, is that I remember LittleKuriboh's channel getting taken down all the time back in the day. But since like ~2010, he hasn't lost his channel. He's probably the only YouTuber I can think of that actually had it worse back in pre-2010 YouTube for copyright claims than post 2010 YouTube.

 

[Yakito]

Something kind of weird relating to this, is that I remember LittleKuriboh's channel getting taken down all the time back in the day. But since like ~2010, he hasn't lost his channel. He's probably the only YouTuber I can think of that actually had it worse back in pre-2010 YouTube for copyright claims than post 2010 YouTube.

I would say the copyright holding company targeted the guy for some reason. Maybe he got too big for their taste and felt that he, -- somehow -- takes away revenue from them.

What substitute do you suggest to replace it? Of all my sources of entertainment I find that it's the last one that I would put down.

Is it even possible to really create an alternative? YouTube is not only a video sharing site, but a medium of it's own. It's like looking for an alternative for television or radio.

 

[lain is here]

I would say the copyright holding company targeted the guy for some reason. Maybe he got too big for their taste and felt that he, -- somehow -- takes away revenue from them.

Yeah, if I remember correctly 4kids had a grudge against him for the longest time.


As for alternatives to Youtube. It's really difficult since alternatives to YouTube almost always just brand themselves as some version of "Youtube, but without the censorship." Don't get me wrong, I use Odysee (and to a lesser extent Bitchute) for certain people who I can only watch there. But all it takes is looking at the average comments section on any Alt-Tube video to see why they don't have mainstream appeal. They are 90% filled with Schizos arguing with other schizos.

VidLii (thanks @digital-man for introducing it to me) is pretty interesting. In that it brands itself as "YouTube, but before all the shitty updates that nobody asked for ruined the platform". But even there, it has the same problem of being unable to define itself without referring to YouTube.

For a true alternative to YouTube to emerge, it would have to do something that both has broad appeal to many different types of people (not just schizos and nostalgiafags), but that is also different enough where people don't just see it as a rebranded YouTube clone.

 

[Yakito]

For a true alternative to YouTube to emerge, it would have to do something that both has broad appeal to many different types of people (not just schizos and nostalgiafags), but that is also different enough where people don't just see it as a rebranded YouTube clone.

You would need a fortune to keep it running. YouTube only exist because Google had deep pockets and enough lobby power to keep it independent from the copyright holders etc. (not to mention for normies, if you don't have an app in the two appstores your service doesn't exist.)

It certainly need to be different. Personally I would try to find a few niches for it instead of being the universal video platform. It is simply not economical for small people who have to abide by laws of having to be profitable to have a place where all the kids upload a million hours of minecraft let's plays nobody is watching.

When we look at other successful websites they usually either had a spin on the content or the format. For example tik-tok works with it's super short videos, twitch with livestreaming and pornhub with 3dpg porn. Youtube is only reaction to the first two and can't compete with the third because they need to be family friendly so they don't get regulated.

It certainly sounds like a good challenge. There are many angles the problem could be approached from.

As for alternatives to Youtube. It's really difficult since alternatives to YouTube almost always just brand themselves as some version of "Youtube, but without the censorship." Don't get me wrong, I use Odysee (and to a lesser extent Bitchute) for certain people who I can only watch there. But all it takes is looking at the average comments section on any Alt-Tube video to see why they don't have mainstream appeal. They are 90% filled with Schizos arguing with other schizos.

Normalfags have no reason to ever leave youtube. Like, they do enjoy it being bland. Same goes for the e-celebs, they just deal with Google's nonsense because that is where the money is. It's an unfortunate fact that people just follow authority.

One would need to find an alternative appeal than being light on censorship.
First of all, it's a reactionary positioning that always refer back to YouTube.
Second, it is setting up a situation where people are offensive, for offensiveness sake only to cry when they are moderated.
Third, the average internet goer doesn't care. They simply go to the place where everybody is going.

I think the whole politically based platform alternative is simply a bad idea, when the alternative side there have no resources at all. I am on the Schizo side of things, but I certainly wouldn't make a platform for them if I want to make a viable platform online.

The real question is... what online video related needs are not satisfied now? Would it be possible to train new consumers for online videos? Different mediums come with a different way to enjoy them. Who even would be the demographic that could be targeted? Even YT had it's start up phase of allowing everything so it's was full of Schizo content and piracy. You can always discard your growing audience for the stable one. That sounds cynical, but business is always cynical by nature.