What Millennials Stole from the Zoomers

proto

Traveler
Joined
Mar 9, 2022
Messages
61
Reaction score
189
Awards
25
In the case of zoomers, it's even more important that they don't become complacent and just blame it all on the boomers and it doesn't even matter if they're correct or not because it won't help them. They have to unfuck themselves and correct the wrongs because the ones responsible won't be around for them to do that for them.
This. They either unfuck themselves, or they dont.

If you ask me, I think the whole "zoomers being fucked beyond saving" rhetoric is just blown out of proportions
Somewhat. The most noticeable problem I have found is their inability to socialize with their peers in "meatspace". But this is just for the zoomers personally, but you can unwind a lot of informations from thing alone.

I have found that a lot zoomers "lack balls" - their self-worth is very low thanks to social media, and they dont trust themselves enough. I have met a lot of insanely talented zoomers, but the plague that is social media stomped their self-image into the ground and they think they are worthless. This causes a positive feedback loop.
They will try less often, meaning they will see less good results that would improve their self-image, meaning they will try even less. This spirals out of control into the nihilistic worldview.

Second thing, because the zoomers are so dependant on their safe-spaces on the internet for positive affirmation, they socialize less and less. Even through we live in an era where everyone is "closer" to each another, ironically this has isolated us even more.

Removing the majority of social media and a fuckton of meme pages (this one was really important) while focusing on those few friendships that there truly are helped me out tremendously.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Orlando Smooth

Well-Known Traveler
Joined
Aug 12, 2019
Messages
459
Reaction score
1,733
Awards
145
Tangentially related, but it pisses me off that people refer to millennials as a singular unit. Given the changes in culture, it's just way too big of a generation to really view as being a single generation. People that had childhoods in the booming 90's vs people who had childhoods in the post-9/11 world and financial crisis. People who didn't have access to facebook until college vs people who were exposed to 4chan as 7th graders. People that dreaded getting cellphones because they were clunky and it meant "my parents can call me whenever they want" vs. people who begged their parents for smartphones because they were new and flashy. I could go on, but you get the point.

Also, implicit in Sargon of lolcow's argument is the notion that millennials have ever held any societal power prior to the past like 3 years. That's hilariously out of touch with reality. We've got a few extremely cringey people in congress (Crenshaw, AOC, etc.), some checked-out/barely relevant/failing tech bros (Bezos and Musk are gen x, Gates is a boomer, only Silicon Valley millennial of true societal significance is Zucc), and the actors/musicians of the generation are not household names in the way that former generation's' were. We had 4 boomer presidents in a row covering the span of 1993-2021 (Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump) before going backwards to the silent generation (Biden). That leaves millennials with... influencers and vloggers? Yeah, the real movers and shakers of high society.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

proto

Traveler
Joined
Mar 9, 2022
Messages
61
Reaction score
189
Awards
25
This. They either unfuck themselves, or they dont.


Somewhat. The most noticeable problem I have found is their inability to socialize with their peers in "meatspace". But this is just for the zoomers personally, but you can unwind a lot of informations from thing alone.

I have found that a lot zoomers "lack balls" - their self-worth is very low thanks to social media, and they dont trust themselves enough. I have met a lot of insanely talented zoomers, but the plague that is social media stomped their self-image into the ground and they think they are worthless. This causes a positive feedback loop.
They will try less often, meaning they will see less good results that would improve their self-image, meaning they will try even less. This spirals out of control into the nihilistic worldview.

Second thing, because the zoomers are so dependant on their safe-spaces on the internet for positive affirmation, they socialize less and less. Even through we live in an era where everyone is "closer" to each another, ironically this has isolated us even more.

Removing the majority of social media and a fuckton of meme pages (this one was really important) while focusing on those few friendships that there truly are helped me out tremendously.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the main point I was trying to make.

It is in the boomers and millenials own self-intrest to actually take care of the issue, but they are too blindsighted to notice this. Do you think a suicidal, nihilistic workforce is capable of sustaining the system the previous generations have built up?

Of course no!
The whole thing will come crashing down, and the zoomers wont give half a fuck about it. Hell, they most likely will be glad the atrocity the previous generations have built up will come crashing down like a house of cards.
Why would they give a shit about their older peers when they obviously dont give a shit about them in the first place.

The pendulum swings both ways....
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

proto

Traveler
Joined
Mar 9, 2022
Messages
61
Reaction score
189
Awards
25
I'm in the process of doing that. Thing is that I figured out none of the IRL friendships I had were real. So I'm going on a trip throughout Europe, alone.

Enjoy fren, stay out of the majority of massive cities, try to look for smaller ones, as they are a lot better.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Deleted member 3373

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the main point I was trying to make.

It is in the boomers and millenials own self-intrest to actually take care of the issue, but they are too blindsighted to notice this. Do you think a suicidal, nihilistic workforce is capable of sustaining the system the previous generations have built up?

Of course no!
The whole thing will come crashing down, and the zoomers wont give half a fuck about it. Hell, they most likely will be glad the atrocity the previous generations have built up will come crashing down like a house of cards.
Why would they give a shit about their older peers when they obviously dont give a shit about them in the first place.

The pendulum swings both ways....
I regularly have this discussion with my boomer mother. "The second you're dead I'm going to ensure that everything you worked towards is destroyed".

Enjoy fren, stay out of the majority of massive cities, try to look for smaller ones, as they are a lot better.
Don't worry I'm starting with Ireland (definitely one of the easier places being a Brit) and then I'm off to France (not Paris). I'm intentionally avoiding the capitals. Only one I may visit the capital for is the Netherlands and I'm only there to microdose on psilocybin anyway.
 

Orlando Smooth

Well-Known Traveler
Joined
Aug 12, 2019
Messages
459
Reaction score
1,733
Awards
145
I'm in the process of doing that. Thing is that I figured out none of the IRL friendships I had were real. So I'm going on a trip throughout Europe, alone.
Making new, meaningful friendships is hard, but not impossible. Look for IRL groups that do things you're interested in and network outward from there. Don't be afraid to go at it alone for a while, and DGAF if people judge you for having the IRL interests that you have. Best of luck.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

punishedgnome

Well-Known Traveler
Joined
Feb 2, 2022
Messages
481
Reaction score
1,149
Awards
123
Tangentially related, but it pisses me off that people refer to millennials as a singular unit. Given the changes in culture, it's just way too big of a generation to really view as being a single generation. People that had childhoods in the booming 90's vs people who had childhoods in the post-9/11 world and financial crisis. People who didn't have access to facebook until college vs people who were exposed to 4chan as 7th graders. People that dreaded getting cellphones because they were clunky and it meant "my parents can call me whenever they want" vs. people who begged their parents for smartphones because they were new and flashy. I could go on, but you get the point.

Also, implicit in Sargon of lolcow's argument is the notion that millennials have ever held any societal power prior to the past like 3 years. That's hilariously out of touch with reality. We've got a few extremely cringey people in congress (Crenshaw, AOC, etc.), some checked-out/barely relevant/failing tech bros (Bezos and Musk are gen x, Gates is a boomer, only Silicon Valley millennial of true societal significance is Zucc), and the actors/musicians of the generation are not household names in the way that former generation's' were. We had 4 boomer presidents in a row covering the span of 1993-2021 (Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump) before going backwards to the silent generation (Biden). That leaves millennials with... influencers and vloggers? Yeah, the real movers and shakers of high society.
Yeah, I agree 100%. I was born in 1984. I didn't have the Internet until I was a teenager and Facebook didn't launch to the public until I was already in my 20s. The widespread adoption of the Internet and the launch of social media platforms were such a seismic shift, it really warrants classifying people who grew up with it and those who didn't as different generations.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Andy Kaufman

i know
Joined
Feb 19, 2022
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
4,796
Awards
209
Wait am I the only "zoomer" fuck on this board?
I only hear googoogaga someone give this baby his pacifier
(no, there's at least one 19yo kid here or something iirc).
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Andy Kaufman

i know
Joined
Feb 19, 2022
Messages
1,185
Reaction score
4,796
Awards
209
Virtual Cafe Awards

MorphedSnowman

Sperglord
Joined
Nov 7, 2021
Messages
278
Reaction score
702
Awards
88
Virtual Cafe Awards

Outer Heaven

Stranger in a strange land
Bronze
Joined
Oct 25, 2021
Messages
783
Reaction score
5,630
Awards
230
No it's pretty screwed. I'd say you're the exception rather than the rule. I'm with you in that older category (lucky enough to still have memory of when everyone wasn't constantly online) and all my (now former) friends are not in good spots. And not just due to the over-competition issue but because of how they act in life (hence why they are now all former friends). They're just a bunch of incels too caught up in memes, video games, porn, and childhood nostalgia to actually do something worthwhile. They are all either unemployed or have very low paying jobs and there is seemingly no ((((((remedy)))))) for this. And from what I hear this is the case for the majority of guys under 25. Video games is now our primary occupation. I have hope I will break free of this but them, not so much.
This is entirely true. Most people in our generation are caught by something. There are so many different pitfalls its nearly impossible not to be. If you're not a NEET type jacking off to hentai and playing games all day, you're stuck in the millennial insta/tiktok attention cycle and the meaningless job rat race. Not one person I know IRL my age has aspirations for a family until at least the age of 30 if at all. Many don't even want kids if they want to get married. Some of the smarter, more aware ones have looked at the economic situation atm and concluded that they'll never own a house or anything of value so they spend all their money on take out and frying their brain with drugs. All the issues in millennials are compounded in the western zoomer to the nth degree and it will only be worse for the post 2005 cohort that grew up with ipads and YT since birth.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Deleted member 3373

This is entirely true. Most people in our generation are caught by something. There are so many different pitfalls its nearly impossible not to be. If you're not a NEET type jacking off to hentai and playing games all day, you're stuck in the millennial insta/tiktok attention cycle and the meaningless job rat race. Not one person I know IRL my age has aspirations for a family until at least the age of 30 if at all. Many don't even want kids if they want to get married. Some of the smarter, more aware ones have looked at the economic situation atm and concluded that they'll never own a house or anything of value so they spend all their money on take out and frying their brain with drugs. All the issues in millennials are compounded in the western zoomer to the nth degree and it will only be worse for the post 2005 cohort that grew up with ipads and YT since birth.
I've been aware of the housing issue since my early teens. The only conclusion I have reached is to run. Run away from modern society entirely. I'm going to get some basic construction skills and try and find people with access to land who are interested in the idea. Construct small houses out in some rural area with some amount of self-sustaining agriculture. That's the only way I could seriously have a child (let alone multiple).
 

Jessica3cho雪血⊜青意

ばかばかしい外人
Gold
Joined
Aug 11, 2021
Messages
1,331
Reaction score
3,250
Awards
236
Website
recanimepodcast.com
I don't even need to watch the video to say:

Blaming shit on other generations is weak. Fuck you if you think generational divide has any real meaning.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Healing

I've lurked so much, I forgot what posting is like
Joined
Nov 4, 2021
Messages
11
Reaction score
19
Awards
5
This whole video gives off a stench of pretentious waste with the whole "look like you zoomers have it so fucking tough, huh?" without giving any sort of advice as to how to actually fix what's wrong other than "go outside." Maybe there's a few interesting points scattered about, but the underlying message just goes back to to the same bullshit generational wars.

Also, I'm not the most highly-skilled zoomer on the planet, but I'm fairly certain I could hold myself up a lot more than what this guy says I can, or more specifically can't, do.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Still a Youth

Hypet-Leathel
Joined
Nov 12, 2021
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
3,172
Awards
247
Website
www.halopedia.org
Why on Earth is eSports a thing on college campuses?! There is an eSports studio within the weights section of the gym at my university. I don't understand it, it is so pathetic.

Related to this post, how can I take this person seriously when he shows a clip of Jordan Peterson? Does anyone actually take what anything these people say to heart?
yes. the sad thing is that for a lot of people their understanding of psychology and philosophy comes from pseudes on the internet like Dr. Peterson. No matter your stance on the political actions Peterson has taken, he's still sub par in terms of philosophy. Save from the christian theology (which is, depending on prior beliefs, not intellectually valuable), the dude is just an academic with a youtube channel. literally any punk on this board, given some time, could be twice the intellectual Peterson is.

I don't even need to watch the video to say:

Blaming shit on other generations is weak. Fuck you if you think generational divide has any real meaning.
I completely agree. Generational bullshit is just agism that marketers rely on to exploit populations. It's just that divide and conquor fascist bullshit.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards
Late zoomer. Most zoomers here are mostly in their 20s.

I'm in the process of doing that. Thing is that I figured out none of the IRL friendships I had were real. So I'm going on a trip throughout Europe, alone.

Isn't Europe just a graveyard of souls who don't care for each other? I know that Europeans love to boast being better than the United States but there a lot of research and studies that prove otherwise. However, this is not meant to discourage you from going. If you can manage to develop friendship there, good on you.

Actually, Europe not being as compassionate as the US itself reminds me of the "European Syndrome" that was mentioned in the civil society video by political juice of which I have posted a video of it in another thread for another but similar subject entirely.

1651007921875.png

(Some I feel like the US has since been adopting over the years)
Somewhat. The most noticeable problem I have found is their inability to socialize with their peers in "meatspace". But this is just for the zoomers personally, but you can unwind a lot of informations from thing alone.

I have found that a lot zoomers "lack balls" - their self-worth is very low thanks to social media, and they dont trust themselves enough. I have met a lot of insanely talented zoomers, but the plague that is social media stomped their self-image into the ground and they think they are worthless. This causes a positive feedback loop.
They will try less often, meaning they will see less good results that would improve their self-image, meaning they will try even less. This spirals out of control into the nihilistic worldview.

Second thing, because the zoomers are so dependant on their safe-spaces on the internet for positive affirmation, they socialize less and less. Even through we live in an era where everyone is "closer" to each another, ironically this has isolated us even more.

Removing the majority of social media and a fuckton of meme pages (this one was really important) while focusing on those few friendships that there truly are helped me out tremendously.

I won't lie that while social media and the internet itself is a great form of communications between peoples, it has been a detriment to most people's mental health. There's certainly tons of devs, especially the ones from Facebook who'd tell you that they had to program the site to be the equivalent of taking drugs and even so when you find out that their founders and CEO place limits on their children when they use their tablets and phones. Messed up I know but unfortunately that's how many social media platforms, even the ones form the 2000s like myspace are no different than Facebook.

As for people in general (Not just an issue with our generation) lacking the balls to stand for themselves and having bleak outlook. I honestly believe that is not on the blame of social media platforms but rather the many progressive or "left-wing" groups and movements instead. You know; Social Justice, Political Correctness, Double Standards, and Radical Feminism... Shit that you'd just laugh at and watch their shitty arguments and emotion fly like monkey flinging shit at each other on channels like Sargon of Akkad for example back from 2013 to 2015 really.

Sadly, however it was during those years did these movements actually began to grow like a plague and started threating various businesses and schools/Colleges to conform or face certain legal actions or violence. Sure, there was resistance but after hearing stories of these people being mobbed in colleges or chanted down and kicked out, basically their lives being destroyed at the hands of these marauding losers with no purpose in their lives; it really begins to seep into the minds of people and to some not in a good away. Fear, paranoia, anxiety... Stuff like that would causing people to lose chase with bad habits such as blocking people you don't agree with and so forth, yeah that's just a recipe for disaster further fueling emotional reactions.

And what you get at the end of the day is a rise of depression and a cynical view of the world and life not only because a bunch of people had apparently made it so where it feels all alienating and impossible to communicate with another but made it make sure that YOU'RE of what's wrong with the world and totally not the emotionally driven and meat for brains folks that forced society to a breaking point. Doesn't help that these days every event and issue feel like a knee jerk reaction of a knee jerk reactions nearly 10 years ago when it comes to countering or "resisting" newer generations of ideologues causing some to basically disconnect themselves completely with reality, also creating a feedback loop itself entirely really. It's no wonder why many people have seemed to "lack balls" these days and why they'd prefer to be given up forms of liberty for the safety of themselves which in the eyes of Benjamin Franklin; deserve neither.

some of the smarter, more aware ones have looked at the economic situation atm and concluded that they'll never own a house or anything of value so they spend all their money on take out and frying their brain with drugs.

They don't sound smart to me if they think it's futile to attempt to encourage people to become aware of the policies and regulations being passed being the detriment to the market economy at ALL! :LaughHard:

I've been aware of the housing issue since my early teens. The only conclusion I have reached is to run. Run away from modern society entirely. I'm going to get some basic construction skills and try and find people with access to land who are interested in the idea. Construct small houses out in some rural area with some amount of self-sustaining agriculture. That's the only way I could seriously have a child (let alone multiple).

Okay I get why you think making friends in Europe is a good idea but let me be fucking real to you now. "Running away" from "modern society" is just plain childish. What sense of accomplishment or satisfaction are you gonna get from moving to bum fuck out of nowhere and building a house? Even the rural folks living there will question your decision because unfortunately and this going to be the case of every rural town you go to; there's not much to do out there other than being online or having to commute to a city for job purposes which is counterproductive in trying to "get away" from "modern society".

Also, by the way, agriculture is not easy, its time consuming and would cost you tons of money if you plan on not only buying land but also buying the necessary equipment in order to properly farm and even if you make a "self-sustaining" community you'd be closing yourselves out from basic trade with other towns and cities because your contempt towards "modern society" the community is already dead before it even started. No not even if you have children.

Seriously, stop putting your head in clouds because it's no different than whatever "modern society" is doing because this is not how the world works at all. If you really want to live off grid, do it, buy an acre of land in Maine, but only because you're interested of living off-grid. Not because you want to rebuild society in your own eyes just because you don't like the people living in our current society. My lord did the internet warped your perceptions on things hasn't it?

yes. the sad thing is that for a lot of people their understanding of psychology and philosophy comes from pseudes on the internet like Dr. Peterson. No matter your stance on the political actions Peterson has taken, he's still sub par in terms of philosophy. Save from the christian theology (which is, depending on prior beliefs, not intellectually valuable), the dude is just an academic with a youtube channel. literally any punk on this board, given some time, could be twice the intellectual Peterson is.


I completely agree. Generational bullshit is just agism that marketers rely on to exploit populations. It's just that divide and conquor fascist bullshit.

I barely watch Peterson but I know he's only popular because he comes across as an antithesis to the current popular beliefs and ideologies currently being held by most academics in universities. That's it really. Though it is a stretch to say some business men are deliberately trying to market off the outrage between generations because I have not seen commercials or products that advertises to such masses.
 
Virtual Cafe Awards

Similar threads