How To Make It On YouTube Shorts: Or Really Just My Observations on YT Shorts

Recently the demands of my job have cooled off which has freed up my time a bit. Enough time to finally allow me to return (some of) my focus back onto my own personal projects, and also, begrudgingly to the sinkhole of procrastination. For the purposes of this thread it's the latter aspect (indulging procrastination) that has led to me creating this topic.

I've never touched TikTok, and mostly ignored Instagram, and for a long time I could say the same about YouTube Shorts as well. For the most part they are a format I hate, but recently YouTube's decided to relentlessly shill several Shorts videos to me to the point that I eventually relented. Then Youtube would shill more to me, and more. And though I could often fight off the urge and ignore them, ever so often I would indulge in those 30-second dopamine hits. That's when I started to noticed a trend. Well several actually. The first of which, is that I was being recommended shorts from the same narrow pool of channels. So that's when I decided to investigate a little bit and check out the channels themselves, that's when the first unnerving discovery became clear. Of course, it's well known that YouTube's algorithm is personalized, especially when it comes to recommendations. So it's highly likely anyone reading this may never have been recommended the two channels I want to bring up. That's not what's important, what's really important is the data surrounding those two channels.

The first channel which was heavily shilled to me was japaneat. Ironic, since I actually hate "look at me I'm in Japan" content of all forms, which is why I think I gave it a hate click. And one hate click soon evolved into hate watching several of his videos. But this is what I find crazy. His channel (as of my writing this) has 668k subscribers. But when I check the 'Videos' section of the channel, there are only two videos on it. One barely breaking 100k in views, and the other a little less than that. When I check the channel's about section, it says that the channel was created in October 31st, 2022. That means a channel less than a year old with only two videos on it has amassed over 600k subscribers in less than a year from shorts alone. Now maybe this is where my age and boomer-mentality is really sticking out. But I always assumed Shorts were used as side-content by YouTube creators, not as anyone's primary bread and butter. Furthermore, as somebody who has actively avoided shorts for the longest time, I naturally (and stupidly) assumed most others did as well.

The second channel far eclipses japaneat, and that would be SenyaiGrubs. Same story, just on a much larger scope. His channel (again, as of me writing this) sits at 1.91 Million subscribers. How many videos has he uploaded? Two, incidentally. His first video is from 7 months ago and sits at 19k views, and his second also from 7 months ago and sits at 49k views. Both his videos have less views than japaneat's videos, yet he eclipses japaneat in subscribers. His channel is also roughly a year old, dating back to May 17, 2022.

So, what has this revealed to me? Notably that I really am a mid-20yo boomer behind the times, as I had no idea it was possible for channels to become so massive (so fast) from Shorts content alone. As much as I hate to say it, it really does seem like the future of "making it" on YouTube for new content creators is through shorts. It also gets me to question if the people who use YouTube for elusively/mostly longer form videos is divided by demographics. I grew up with YouTube, so to me ultrashort form videos hold little genuine appeal. But I wonder if for people growing up on TikTok, they view somebody like me the way I viewed my parents when they stuck to TV in an era when YouTube was starting to dominate.

Anyway, and this is where we get to the title of this thread, I think I've picked up on the key formula to "making it" on Shorts. Please keep in mind that the title is facetious and this isn't a serious guide, but, I do think I've hit on the secret formula, so to speak.

Step 1: Find your niche and stay consistent. Pick one primary topic to focus on, and don't deviate. Food is an excellent choice (for reasons I will go into a bit), but I think it's also starting to get a bit saturated. The important thing is to dedicate your channel to a single topic and upload frequently.

Step 2: It's all about psuedo-dopamine. Hence why food is such an excellent topic to focus on. The name of the game of Shorts (and I'm sure this applies to Tiktok as well) is to simulate in the viewer with the feeling of accomplishment. In japaneat's case that's the primal accomplishment of eating a meal (but in Japan!). In SenyaiGrubs's case, it's the simulated sense of accomplishement of making food. This is a bit of a side rant, but food related videos are not altogether different from how pornography functions. Both focus on titillating the most animal and primordial parts of ourselves. Ever notice how cooking videos never feel satisfying if the person making it doesn't film themselves trying it at the end? Kind of reminds me how a porno doesn't feel complete without a creampie.

In anycase, it doesn't have to be limited to food (or sensually stimulating content), anything which simulates a sense of accomplishment will due. For more on that, check this video out, you only really need to see the first 2 minutes of it anyway.

Step 3: Have a unique, engaging voice. This is kind of the classic advice given to every aspiring writer, or any artist really. But what I mean specifically, is that narration is the crux of these videos. Often they feel like super shorted down internal monolgues. The main focus of what you will be narrating will be on the niche at hand, but the spice that will distinguish you from others in your niche is the personality. Now don't worry, this doesn't have to be your own personality. You could create a character, just so long as you are consistent and that the character is entertaining.

Bonus Step: ADHD editing is good. Zoomers love rapid cuts (really more like flashes) of irrelevant footage interrupting the primary footage.

FAQ:

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If this is the secret to making it on Shorts why haven't you utilized your own method?
A: Because I'm not sure if I want to waste my limited free time making virtual cocaine for zoomies. Also, I might actually eventually give it a try. I have a couple ideas of channels that might work.

Well, thanks for reading my blog. I really do intent this thread to be a place to discuss (hate on) YT Shorts, the shifting trends on YouTube, and short form videos in general. So if you have any opinions on the topic please share them.
 
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I saw some Short(s) about (or video) about teens using Tiktok (or vice versa?) To promote their YT channel(s).
 
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You can also cheat by putting satisfying images (Like "satisfying animation" or Flawless Gameplay of platforming game) on any discourse about any subject unrelated to what the viewer see, it work like hypnose.

You can talk about "The History of Wool Trade in the Iberic Peninsula of the 19th century" and brain fried Zoomers will gobble it without noticing if the images are somewhat itching their dopamine receptors
 
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You can also cheat by putting satisfying images (Like "satisfying animation" or Flawless Gameplay of platforming game) on any discourse about any subject unrelated to what the viewer see, it work like hypnose.

You can talk about "The History of Wool Trade in the Iberic Peninsula of the 19th century" and brain fried Zoomers will gobble it without noticing if the images are somewhat itching their dopamine receptors
Ah yeah, "the interesting facts", with subway surfer, Minecraft or family guy double-screen *effect*
 
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Youtube has the option to convert older videos that are under 60 seconds to shorts, and I've noticed some old accounts trying to take advantage of it to make more money off 15-second gag videos that were originally uploaded as a joke. Pretty depressing.
 
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You can also cheat by putting satisfying images (Like "satisfying animation" or Flawless Gameplay of platforming game) on any discourse about any subject unrelated to what the viewer see, it work like hypnose.

You can talk about "The History of Wool Trade in the Iberic Peninsula of the 19th century" and brain fried Zoomers will gobble it without noticing if the images are somewhat itching their dopamine receptors
Wool Trade in the Iberian Peninsula of the 19th Century is something that everyone should learn about. If I ever have children, the first thing that I will teach them is that. Iberian Wool Trade of the 19th century should be taught in all schools. The fact that this subject is treated as a joke shows how Western society has fallen and can't be saved anymore.
 
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View: https://youtube.com/shorts/yyYhzX1jfVM?feature=share

Make hundreds of videos like this, get money, and destroy the attention span of a great part of the new generation forever. All while getting money.
#SHORTILLIONAIREGRIND #SHORTILLIONAIRE #SHORTILLIONAIRETIPS #SIGMA #SHORTMALE
 
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Honestly thank you for this, I too am in a position where I have to start milking this short form content. The only thing I'm skeptical of is if the subs on those accounts are bots, because I find it insane they could amass so many with so little content, something's off about that to me. YouTube has always prioritized watch time and engagement (comments, liking, etc) but do shorts even really yield any of that?

Watched these guys touch upon it recently, they're running a hobbyist channel more so than doing product marketing but still worth a listen for the bit I timestamped. They say that the ad revenue and retention on shorts isn't that great but it can pull in large view counts if you're chosen by the algorithm gods.

View: https://youtu.be/a8N-HrYuiAQ?t=420
 
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Glad I'm not the only one who sees food content acting like a form of pornography. Think of someone sitting in front of their screen salivating over someone else eating a burger and talking about it, throw in some brutalist architecture, VR goggles or brain-twisting VR implants, digital waifu, and a pod apartment and voila! you have worldbuilding for a depressing cyber-dystopia novel. It actually seems pretty similar to the 'ASMR' stuff that took off a couple years ago, gaming videos also have some similarities in how they function for some.

Really, the semi-porn, dopamine-maxing, 'zoomer' content seems to be the trend henceforth, and that's kind of concerning, after all, what's going to happen when folks' dopamine receptors start telling them to chill the hell out with the faux-pr0n, and they need more to achieve the same high? Will they be forced to calm down, or will things just get more ludicrous? Seems like another avenue of some kind of depression and or nihilism, when in conjuction with other generational trends.
 
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I saw some Short(s) about (or video) about teens using Tiktok (or vice versa?) To promote their YT channel(s).
I've seen it too, the conversion rate isn't great. Also plenty of shorts on YouTube are just Tiktok reuploads, the whole ecosystem is very cyclical.

The first of which, is that I was being recommended shorts from the same narrow pool of channels. So that's when I decided to investigate a little bit and check out the channels themselves, that's when the first unnerving discovery became clear. Of course, it's well known that YouTube's algorithm is personalized, especially when it comes to recommendations. So it's highly likely anyone reading this may never have been recommended the two channels I want to bring up. That's not what's important, what's really important is the data surrounding those two channels.
You should keep in mind that while the regular algorithm is personalized, the shorts algorithm is treated mostly like a separate thing from the regular algorithm. You could have your regular algorithm be dedicated to idk guns or something and the shorts algorithm dedicated to cat videos. The reason the same pool of channels gets recommended is because that's usually what popular and since you haven't trained your shorts algorithm yet it will shove trending tab tier slop in the beginning while it tries to get a feel for what you like. In the beginning it was the same algorithm but it ended up ruining peoples long form recommendations so they separated it.

The only thing I'm skeptical of is if the subs on those accounts are bots, because I find it insane they could amass so many with so little content, something's off about that to me. YouTube has always prioritized watch time and engagement (comments, liking, etc) but do shorts even really yield any of that?
Could be bots but most likely nah, it's pretty easy to get people to subscribe if they see more then one of your shorts, some are probably accidental subs too, the way the button is placed caused me to sub to channels by accident more then I'd care to admit. Also shorts have a completely different algorithm then regular YouTube videos and watch time along with regular metrics do make an impact but in a different way. From my limited experience with shorts it seems to pick them based on what's popular and then aggressively promote it to a set amount of people based on your channel reach. If the short does well it continues to circulate and gain views, subs, etc. and if not then it gets deprioritized and pretty much dies. Some of the dead shorts do get a second chance but rarely, even the actual YouTube big shots just say make more shorts. Think about it, how many shorts do you see that aren't already super popular? Not many and those that do usually have nothing to do with your interests.

If you make shorts you have to stick to them, turnover rate from shorts viewer to regular user is terrible and if you don't upload shorts often you can start to bleed those subscribers gained from them pretty quickly, that's why a separate shorts channel is always the better choice.

Source for my bullshit: Unfortunate shorts user and tried to get a shorts channel of the ground. Along with this interview from creator support confirming that the algorithms are separate (around 19 minutes) and info about shorts being dead (around 1 hour mark)
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Glad I'm not the only one who sees food content acting like a form of pornography. Think of someone sitting in front of their screen salivating over someone else eating a burger and talking about it, throw in some brutalist architecture, VR goggles or brain-twisting VR implants, digital waifu, and a pod apartment and voila! you have worldbuilding for a depressing cyber-dystopia novel. It actually seems pretty similar to the 'ASMR' stuff that took off a couple years ago, gaming videos also have some similarities in how they function for some.
You have just described one of the stories I'm making for my fictional futurist world
 
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Does anyone know why the hell people even use multiple apps for shorts? The idea used to be instagram was for looking at image memes, snapchat was for talking with friends, twitter was for reading arguments or something (never really used it), and youtube was for longer videos. Now all of those platforms are trying to be TikTok 2.0, but they aren't filling a niche anymore so what's the point? I haven't used any social media in a while so maybe I'm missing something, do different sites have different kinds of shorts? Are there contracts signed so that certain users are stuck on certain platforms, causing people to need to platform hop?
 
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Does anyone know why the hell people even use multiple apps for shorts? The idea used to be instagram was for looking at image memes, snapchat was for talking with friends, twitter was for reading arguments or something (never really used it), and youtube was for longer videos. Now all of those platforms are trying to be TikTok 2.0, but they aren't filling a niche anymore so what's the point? I haven't used any social media in a while so maybe I'm missing something, do different sites have different kinds of shorts? Are there contracts signed so that certain users are stuck on certain platforms, causing people to need to platform hop?
Short-form content makes money, and all the apps and corps want money. As shrimple as that imo.
 
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Short-form content makes money, and all the apps and corps want money. As shrimple as that imo.
I understand that, but from a user perspective why use multiple apps for the same thing? Why not just stick to TikTok for all short form viewing?
 
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Does anyone know why the hell people even use multiple apps for shorts? The idea used to be instagram was for looking at image memes, snapchat was for talking with friends, twitter was for reading arguments or something (never really used it), and youtube was for longer videos. Now all of those platforms are trying to be TikTok 2.0, but they aren't filling a niche anymore so what's the point? I haven't used any social media in a while so maybe I'm missing something, do different sites have different kinds of shorts? Are there contracts signed so that certain users are stuck on certain platforms, causing people to need to platform hop?
From what I've gathered most don't actually use multiple platforms just stick with one that they use the most, if they don't use TikTok but use Instagram they'll stick with reels (their version of shorts). As for different types of shorts I don't think so, YouTube might have some original short form content but it's usually tiktok reuploads on all platforms.
 
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Maybe the future will just be short videos of 'midget-gangbang-eating-japanese food-while-vaping-with-FortNite trickshots-and-satisfying poppings sounds' videos.
When I'm chilling in my cyberharem full of my favourite catgirl anime waifus while I watch the new season of Family Guy along with pornocooking ads and the power goes out due to another daily fight between citizens and the corporate mercenaries of MuskCorp:
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